Bit strong but there are, it seems two distinctly differing views about this guy. One fellah whom I've sat next to for several years, someone who is usually fairly objective in his appraisals of our team hates him. Feels that he is too lightweight and gives the ball away too cheaply in our half. Valid crititism to a degree but only half the picture. I love his awareness and invention and remembering that he is not yet fully used to the Prem', a star in the making. A lot of what I like about Bryan simply cannot be taught.
Off my soapbox now.
If he didnt dally on the ball so long id love him. As he is now i like him. He has a touch of class that most of our other players dont have
I like him but he frustrates me. When / if he gets to grips with English football he'll be brilliant (and linked to spurs, Liverpool etc).
Its Barry Hayles all over again!!! Half loved half didnt. I for one think that Ruiz is pure class and will give the ball away more than most because he will always try the forward/attacking pass, Someone like Etuhu however will pass it back and sideways all day and never give the ball away... what better??
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I don't love or hate him but Jambo, it's not giving the ball away through attempting tough passes that bothered me; it was the fact that he was caught in possession as often as Martin Sheen in very dangerous positions. Poor timing? Lack of awareness? Lack of skill? I don't know but I just can't remember huge talents like Best, Moore and Dembele getting caught like that.
Having said that, watching the Clint goal fiesta, it amazed me how many of his goals came from exquisite Bryan assists.
The man has great talent. It's up to Jol either to coach those problems out of him or to put him in the right position to take advantage of his talents and to limit his liabilities.
I think this will be his season.
Nogood "hope springs eternal, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on July 30, 2012, 01:15:28 PM
I don't love or hate him but Jambo, it's not giving the ball away through attempting tough passes that bothered me; it was the fact that he was caught in possession as often as Martin Sheen in very dangerous positions. Poor timing? Lack of awareness? Lack of skill? I don't know but I just can't remember huge talents like Best, Moore and Dembele getting caught like that.
Having said that, watching the Clint goal fiesta, it amazed me how many of his goals came from exquisite Bryan assists.
The man has great talent. It's up to Jol either to coach those problems out of him or to put him in the right position to take advantage of his talents and to limit his liabilities.
I think this will be his season.
Nogood "hope springs eternal, isit" Boyo
Dembele has definitely been caught in possession several times. A good example would be the England v Belgium game where he was criminally robbed by Gerrard (I think) in his own half and Eng scored.
I think Ruiz is great, and if the only complaints that are levelled at him are that he is too lightweight, then that is fine with me.
He needs to adjust to the pace and physicality of the Premier League.
At times he found that tough last season and he needs to up his game. He knows that and so does Jol. His potential is enormous but I'm not confident he'll make the necessary adjustments.
I certainly haven't decided though that he won't.
All first season Dembele arguments and counter arguments. I think he will come good. A season or so it seems is what it takes for a period of adjustment. Most examples of transfers from other leagues that fit right in are way out of our pay and transfer bracket and I'm fine with that. Rather smart and sensible. Though some may argue 10+ isn't sensible it is when you look at some comes paid for other players that have done just as well last term.
The same kinds of things were being said about Dembélé not so long ago. There were greater differences in opinion about Dempsey as well.
Of course this is no predictor of greatness in and of itself, but there are other commonalities like the creativity he shows, his willingness to continue playing his game even when he makes mistakes, and he takes his chances.
I predict he'll show his value soon enough and we'll all be worrying when some bigger team will come in for him,.......just like with the Dems.
He is ludicrously skillful, but needed to get quicker and stronger with a better understanding of the pace of the game.
It is a real shame he missed so much time through injury last season, but I think a full pre-season will do him wonders.
Agree. I'm excited about what he can produce this season.
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I think he is superb going forward and a better player than Dembele in the last third. Will be a real star this season.
There's something about him I really like.
I get a bit frustrated when he is pushed off the ball though, noticed this at Bolton just before he got injured.
I believe those who 'hate'/dislike him are driven on by his appearance. Of course his transfer fee plays a part but I do believe that football fans here have this prejudice against long haired footballers.
Well, I love him, and I consider myself a very objective person regarding him.... yeah right...
I find these type of posts irritating.
Hating one of our most talented players? Starting things off with his hair etc. It just grinds my gears.
He'll do well next season and will have adjusted his game accordingly. Players with skill can do that sort of thing. Perhaps PR can request he gets a skinhead to appease the doubters, who in my opinion, have probably never kicked a ball in there lives.
People tend to forget that he actually pick Fulham over Newcastle, so basically he loves the club but most fans don't like him because well IDK..........
Love Bryan, his chips are spectacular, but his fish tends to be a little soggy, still not too bad for his first year in England.
Quote from: CanadianCottager on July 30, 2012, 06:53:28 PM
Love Bryan, his chips are spectacular, but his fish tends to be a little soggy, still not too bad for his first year in England.
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The hair, the swagger and the skill :54: What's not to love?
Quote from: Reindeer on July 30, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
I find these type of posts irritating.
Hating one of our most talented players? Starting things off with his hair etc. It just grinds my gears.
He'll do well next season and will have adjusted his game accordingly. Players with skill can do that sort of thing. Perhaps PR can request he gets a skinhead to appease the doubters, who in my opinion, have probably never kicked a ball in there lives.
good shout
I love him.. I think he will provide goals and assists galore this year... I do feel he needs to work on his defensive prowess but so did Clint when he first arrived... He does give the ball away a bit but I think that is due to him slowly adjusting to the pace of play... so much open space in the Eredivisie...
Reindeer, I don't think people actually hate Bryan or anyone on our team, its more are you positive on him or are you a doubter. Course writing it that way doesn't elicit the same response to a thread title as 'love him or hate' him does.
Personally, I think he is going to be a star for us. I hate to keep going back to it but since it is the only Prem game I have seen live...the interaction and play between Ruiz, Dempsey, and Dembele in the Arsenal match at home was superb and much of that was because of the playmaking by Ruiz. After that match I was convinced. He'll be fine and since he plays for Fulham I love the guy.
A guy next to me said he was effing useless and we should sell him. There are people who hate him.
Quote from: EJL on July 31, 2012, 01:11:28 AM
A guy next to me said he was effing useless and we should sell him. There are people who hate him.
Well, there's that, but there was a poster on here earlier in the calendar year who said that there was a guy sat near him who yelled that Danny Murphy "rubbish" and "a waste of money" EVERY home match for the entire time he was here. It's safe to say that there are season ticket holders who have been fans for over 20 years who just are unable to see what an individual player brings to the table.
As for Bryan, his passing is exquisite and he had a telepathy thing going with Clint. If Clint stays, there could be a serious North American attack connection going on.