Picking up from the centre back world cup a few weeks back, here's your next instalment. Help us determine our player of the season, Good luck with that (how great is it to be able to debate it!)
Thanks for taking part guys. The Player of the Season 16/17 as voted by FOF members/readers is......TOM CAIRNEY
Give us your thoughts below and if you're on twitter please retweet it from my twitter @dannyboi_ffc
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Draw & Results
167 votes
Group A
Sessegnon 41
Cairney 166
Piazon 2
Aluko 125
Group B
Malone 161
Ayite 119
Kebano 52
Madl 2
Group C
Martin 1
Kalas 164
Johansen 167
Odoi 2
Group D
Ream 69
Fredericks 89
Bettinelli 12
McDonald 164
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112 votes
Quarter Finals
First half of draw
Group A winner v Group B runner up
Cairney 109 V 3 Ayite
Group C winner v Group D runner up
Johansen 110 V 2 Fredericks
Second half of draw
Group B winner v Group A runner up
Malone 69 V 43 Aluko
Group D winner v Group C runner up
McDonald 80 V 32 Kalas
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124 votes
Semi Finals
first half of draw
Winner Match 1 vs Winner Match 2
Cairney 89 V 35 Johansen
second half of draw
Winner Match 3 vs Winner Match 4
Malone 27 V 97 McDonald
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162 votes
Third place playoff
Johansen 134 V 28 Malone
The Final
Cairney 83 V 79 McDonald
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PLAYER OF THE SEASON 16/17-TOM CAIRNEY049:gif :wine: :Haynes The Maestro:
Runner up- Kevin McDonald
Third place- Stefan Johansen
Fourth place- Scott Malone
If the semi final lineup isn't: Cairney - Johanson - Kalas - KMac, then I'll be very surprised
Aluko has to be in with a shout too
Good work, these are great.
I thought that Group D is quite a tough one (the Group of Death). One outstanding player and 3 who have all done very very good work in different ways at different times.
Malone for me.
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
I thought that Group D is quite a tough one (the Group of Death). One outstanding player and 3 who have all done very very good work in different ways at different times.
:plus one: That's the group I had most difficulty with - really tough.
100 votes so far guys. Thanks for voting and keep em coming
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Come on guys. It's only a bit of fun. I didn't think the comment was aimed to mug you off mate, which is why I didn't remove it.
I'm glad you've voted, thanks for that. I think Malone is a decent shout but probably just too much competition. Id also put Kalas forward.
But given how important the midfield trio were it's probably a 1, 2, 3 between the three of them.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 20, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Come on guys. It's only a bit of fun. I didn't think the comment was aimed to mug you off mate, which is why I didn't remove it.
I'm glad you've voted, thanks for that. I think Malone is a decent shout but probably just too much competition. Id also put Kalas forward.
But given how important the midfield trio were it's probably a 1, 2, 3 between the three of them.
Sorry over reaction,but found it a bit annoying.
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:42:30 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 20, 2017, 08:26:27 AM
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Come on guys. It's only a bit of fun. I didn't think the comment was aimed to mug you off mate, which is why I didn't remove it.
I'm glad you've voted, thanks for that. I think Malone is a decent shout but probably just too much competition. Id also put Kalas forward.
But given how important the midfield trio were it's probably a 1, 2, 3 between the three of them.
Sorry over reaction,but found it a bit annoying.
It's the problem we all have with reading instead of hearing what someone is trying to say. I knew why you were saying Malone just like the first response said the last 4 should be our midfield plus Kalas. But the explanation was just trying to be helpful incase you didn't quite get the concept.
Anyway, Monday we move onto the Quarters. That gives everyone a chance to see it and vote. Maybe I should do one of those adverts on twitter about if you don't register to vote then you don't have a voice lol.
Done! Thanks for organising Danny.
Had to chose between Fred and Reeeeeeaaaaaaam, went for Fred but that was the only tough choice.
Quote from: FulhamStu on May 20, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
Had to chose between Fred and Reeeeeeaaaaaaam, went for Fred but that was the only tough choice.
Same here. I actually went for Ream by virtue of how much improved he's been in the last few months and coinciding with our brilliant form.
Quarter Finals now guys. I'll post the results of the group stages later today.
Cairney v Ayite
Johansen v Fredericks
Malone v Aluko
McDonald v Kalas
https://surveyplanet.com/5922a607b0db1132c78b1006
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 22, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Quarter Finals now guys. I'll post the results of the group stages later today.
Cairney v Ayite
Johansen v Fredericks
Malone v Aluko
McDonald v Kalas
https://surveyplanet.com/5922a607b0db1132c78b1006
McDonald or Kalas is a tough one!
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
I've only just seen this. I think you've over-reacted. Certainly didn't think you were being stupid. But choosing one player from an invitation to pick one player from each pair suggests at least a misunderstanding and civility in its broad application is what keeps society going. But I shall not lose sleep.
Is there anythin to stop voting multiple times? You'll end up with Inamoto as your player of the season
Quote from: FFCAli on May 22, 2017, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 22, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Quarter Finals now guys. I'll post the results of the group stages later today.
Cairney v Ayite
Johansen v Fredericks
Malone v Aluko
McDonald v Kalas
https://surveyplanet.com/5922a607b0db1132c78b1006
McDonald or Kalas is a tough one!
I was about to write the same thing.
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 22, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
Is there anythin to stop voting multiple times? You'll end up with Inamoto as your player of the season
Yeah I can make it so that you can't vote more than once. Only reason I didn't was incase someone wanted to vote on behalf of a family member or something who wasn't clued up with technology.
Is this a general feeling amongst you all?
Results of the group stages and the draw itself are now in the OP. Thanks for your votes so far.
Voting closes tomorrow night
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Thats nothing. If you want a busy body, you should have seen me earlier, peeking through a certain statisticians window and clearly witnessing him clicking his mouse, and being that that lone Chris Martin voter in group C. I shouldn't be so nosey, but I was in the area, and needed to satisfy my curiosity and rather pathetic existence.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 22, 2017, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
I've only just seen this. I think you've over-reacted. Certainly didn't think you were being stupid. But choosing one player from an invitation to pick one player from each pair suggests at least a misunderstanding and civility in its broad application is what keeps society going. But I shall not lose sleep.
I did post on another thread i was sorry and over reacted.
Quote from: Statto on May 22, 2017, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: stevehawkinslidingtackle on May 22, 2017, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
Thats nothing. If you want a busy body, you should have seen me earlier, peeking through a certain statisticians window and clearly witnessing him clicking his mouse, and being that that lone Chris Martin voter in group C. I shouldn't be so nosey, but I was in the area, and needed to satisfy my curiosity and rather pathetic existence.
keep up mate, we've moved on from the chris m****n argument (think I won that argument about 3 months ago actually) and we are now waiting for your other sweetheart dembele to be the most expensive transfer of the summer when he joins Barcelona for £40m
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Course you won it mate. Martin is magic, Dembele is 2 bob. You are priceless Statto. If you were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay, you still wouldn't change your mind.
I did see you vote for Martin though. I've got pictures.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 22, 2017, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 22, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
Is there anythin to stop voting multiple times? You'll end up with Inamoto as your player of the season
Yeah I can make it so that you can't vote more than once. Only reason I didn't was incase someone wanted to vote on behalf of a family member or something who wasn't clued up with technology.
Is this a general feeling amongst you all?
No, it's fine, just an observation. i wanted to vote for Sean Kavanagh though
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 22, 2017, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 22, 2017, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: Newry FFC on May 22, 2017, 05:56:56 PM
Is there anythin to stop voting multiple times? You'll end up with Inamoto as your player of the season
Yeah I can make it so that you can't vote more than once. Only reason I didn't was incase someone wanted to vote on behalf of a family member or something who wasn't clued up with technology.
Is this a general feeling amongst you all?
No, it's fine, just an observation. i wanted to vote for Sean Kavanagh though
He was 17th on the list unfortunately so just missed out.........
Thanks for pursuing this DB.
I am amazed Ayite and to a degree Aluko made it so far and I take the vote for Martin in the spirit it was meant. What price a Cairney v MacD semi final?
Quote from: ffcne on May 22, 2017, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 22, 2017, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 20, 2017, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 19, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: ffcne on May 19, 2017, 01:53:35 PM
Malone for me.
I don't think you have quite the idea? Click on the surveyplanet link then
"there's 16 to choose from in 4 groups of 4. Pick the 2 best from each"
Why don't you mind your own business .I hate busy bodies.
''Don't think you have quite the idea'',Yes i do , have completed it ages ago
I ain't stupid mate.
This world is full of condescending a........s like you.
Just a comment about Malone.
I've only just seen this. I think you've over-reacted. Certainly didn't think you were being stupid. But choosing one player from an invitation to pick one player from each pair suggests at least a misunderstanding and civility in its broad application is what keeps society going. But I shall not lose sleep.
I did post on another thread i was sorry and over reacted.
No problem. Thanks for your response. As danny-boi said earlier, words on a page sometimes look harsher than they sound.
98 votes so far. Voting closes tonight 8pm
Don't know if these guys' votes count!
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2017/may/23/players-player-of-the-season (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2017/may/23/players-player-of-the-season)
Interesting that the 'under the radar' man isn't so 'under the radar' after all.
Semi Final time ladies and gents. In my head I have a straight forward 1, 2, 3, 4 but as always anything can happen with a voting system lol.
I think it's fitting that 3 of the final 4 were the midfield trio, they were the heartbeat of everything we did.
Cairney v Johansen
Malone v McDonald
You can vote more than once so if you have a Grandad or a parent/friend etc who you know can't get access to vote, why not ask them and vote on their behalf. All Fulham supporters are welcome.
https://surveyplanet.com/592334e482ff3077db035a3b
Very difficult to choose
Quote from: SuperFulham323 on May 23, 2017, 08:03:22 PM
Very difficult to choose
It was one of those seasons fortunately. Taking out the obvious one I think there were about 7 who deserved to be in the running.
I've plumped for a Johansen McDonald final but don't think that will be the outcome.
Done... Now it is getting very difficult! Good to have that problem though :dft011:
Why can we vote more than once, Danny? It's not as if you're running a premium rate number - or is that giving you ideas!
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 23, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
I've plumped for a Johansen McDonald final but don't think that will be the outcome.
How strange, so did I. I just thought they were consistently good all season
Tough with my top two against one another (Johansen, Cairney) and my next two eliminated (Kalas, Fredericks)
Quote from: bobby01 on May 24, 2017, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 23, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
I've plumped for a Johansen McDonald final but don't think that will be the outcome.
How strange, so did I. I just thought they were consistently good all season
Agreed but I think TC is likely to be the eventual winner.
Quote from: bobby01 on May 24, 2017, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 23, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
I've plumped for a Johansen McDonald final but don't think that will be the outcome.
How strange, so did I. I just thought they were consistently good all season
Tripley strange as I did too. Johansen was not as easily cut out of a game as Cairney was but equally needed to be more robust at times. McD fits into the Parker category. If there is another one around about ten years younger sign him now!
McDonald .. easy
Cairney .. difficult
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 24, 2017, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on May 24, 2017, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on May 23, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
I've plumped for a Johansen McDonald final but don't think that will be the outcome.
I did to.... if enough people do this we could have a BREXIT reaction...
"Never thought that would happen, actually wanted TC".
How strange, so did I. I just thought they were consistently good all season
Agreed but I think TC is likely to be the eventual winner.
113 votes so far. Voting closes tonight and then it gets interesting!
Voting has closed 6 mins early. To be honest it's been over since the first few hours anyway. The results are on the op.
Now onto the FINAL.
CAIRNEY OR MCDONALD?
https://surveyplanet.com/5925d2b882ff3077db05561b
Been Mcdonald for me since before Christmas. He allows everyone else to do what they do.
Quote from: e4b on May 25, 2017, 08:27:26 PM
Been Mcdonald for me since before Christmas. He allows everyone else to do what they do.
, :plus one:
Very straight forward survey. Well done.
Be interesting to see who wins. Have a sneaky feeling (and hope) it will be the most consistent performer of the season. Someone who was probably our best, or second best player in every single game.
I voted for Ream, and if I could, I'd take it back. Not because he didn't end up a fine player who really played well from February on. No, if I could take back my vote, I'd have to give it to one of our goal scorers, because, let's face it, our ability to score was our bread and butter this season. We were known as the team that scored goals. One way or another. Problem is: Goals came from so many offensive players it was hard for me to pick just one. Even our fullbacks got in on the act. It was such a breath of fresh air to support a Fulham side that scored in buckets. Even if for a time we were leaking goals ourselves. A weird season. A season of two halves. When we finally got our back sorted out, we were truly dangerous. If only that had happened a little sooner, Won't forget this season any time soon.
85 votes so far guys and it is very close! Possibly a lot closer than some expected. Voting is open until 8pm Saturday.
https://surveyplanet.com/5925d2b882ff3077db05561b
such a hard call, Cairney has been magnificent, but he cant play like he does without a solid man behind him and that was KMac. Interesting to see a fair few players mentioned KMac too.
Slightly surprised by this as I thought Johansen would win the overall vote. MacDonald would be about 7th on my ranking list.
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Slightly surprised by this as I thought Johansen would win the overall vote. MacDonald would be about 7th on my ranking list.
He's so important to the way we play. It's such an unselfish disciplined role that allows the others to bomb forward. It wouldn't work without him. He's not in your face obvious but he's the unsung hero
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 26, 2017, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Slightly surprised by this as I thought Johansen would win the overall vote. MacDonald would be about 7th on my ranking list.
He's so important to the way we play. It's such an unselfish disciplined role that allows the others to bomb forward. It wouldn't work without him. He's not in your face obvious but he's the unsung hero
Without KMac both SJ and TC would have different roles to play in this side as we have no one else who can do the job KMac does.
It's such a good midfield, for this squad, as they dovetail fantastically
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 26, 2017, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Slightly surprised by this as I thought Johansen would win the overall vote. MacDonald would be about 7th on my ranking list.
He's so important to the way we play. It's such an unselfish disciplined role that allows the others to bomb forward. It wouldn't work without him. He's not in your face obvious but he's the unsung hero
DM is an important position for sure. My perception is that KM has filled the DM solidly and unremarkably (hence ranked 7th for me). I dont think his passing is top notch and can recall a few midseason matches where stray passes were intercepted to provide big chances for the opposition.
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on May 26, 2017, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 11:02:15 AM
Slightly surprised by this as I thought Johansen would win the overall vote. MacDonald would be about 7th on my ranking list.
He's so important to the way we play. It's such an unselfish disciplined role that allows the others to bomb forward. It wouldn't work without him. He's not in your face obvious but he's the unsung hero
DM is an important position for sure. My perception is that KM has filled the DM solidly and unremarkably (hence ranked 7th for me). I dont think his passing is top notch and can recall a few midseason matches where stray passes were intercepted to provide big chances for the opposition.
He's more than defensive midfield. Makelele was a great defensive midfielder but he couldn't pass the ball. McD is a deep lying playmaker.
And I tell ya what, he's been a passenger in less games than everyone. There's been many games where Johansen and Cairney have been frozen out of games. McDonald imo has been the most consistent.
How would a DM be frozen out? Perhaps by putting another midfielder on him all game. But MacDonald's range of passing is limited, therefore he doesn't need that level of attention.
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
How would a DM be frozen out? Perhaps by putting another midfielder on him all game. But MacDonald's range of passing is limited, therefore he doesn't need that level of attention.
His passing has surprised me. When he played against us for Wolves, he was pinging the ball 60/70yds to their winger's feet. Not seen much of that for us.
Quote from: Wolf on May 26, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
How would a DM be frozen out? Perhaps by putting another midfielder on him all game. But MacDonald's range of passing is limited, therefore he doesn't need that level of attention.
I'm not sure limited is the right word. It's just more specific than the other 2. He starts the attacks and dictates the tempo of the game. The conductor of the orchestra whilst the other two play the fancy instruments. I'm sure if McDonald wanted to he could play the 50 yard passes etc but then you risk losing the ball before the attack has begun.
The way we play it would be very noticeable if McDonald became exposed or looked vulnerable as the others are caught out high up the pitch. But his positioning is spot on and he also allows Ream and Kalas to cover our full Backs as a third centre back. He's like 3 players in one for this Team.
If I had to criticise I would say he should score more goals and lacks pace but that's being very picky. The latter will probably be the reason he doesn't become a premier league player
Still pretty close after 130 votes. 24 hours left to vote
141 votes and just 7 between Cairney and McDonald. Voting closes tonight.
https://surveyplanet.com/5925d2b882ff3077db05561b
155 votes and just 3 votes separate the final!
3 hours to go
A massive Thank you to everyone to took the time to vote. I'm sure the official club fans vote won't be too far off but thanks for helping us take the opportunity to do our own one.
It was very close in the end with just 4 votes separating TC and Mac with Johansen a runaway 3rd place. Very fitting imo to have all 3 as the top 3.
Congratulations to Tom on a deserved triumph. You've been magnificent this season as have all of the lads. But you took on the armband and gave us that bit extra. The Leeds goal summed up you and this Team. COYW! :Haynes The Maestro:
Thanks again and I hope you enjoy these little cup thingys I've been doing. Here's to the next one :wine: 049:gif
