In the absence of Mr Peabody, just got back, we done all we could to throw this match away, someone has got to get into the heads of these players and stop them from giving the ball away. Young Sess needs some education, but it was great to get a win.
Agree. Was sloppy, but we won, and thats the main thing! COYW
Agree. Our ball control is much weaker than last season but we are improving. Also we have more selfish players, shooting and not passing.
Made up with the win but agree with all of above Alfie. Could have won three at home but are kinda lucky to have won one. Even with our sloppy play we should have been comfortable.
But that was a good scrappy win.
Quote from: Robbie on September 13, 2017, 10:14:26 PM
Agree. Our ball control is much weaker than last season but we are improving. Also we have more selfish players, shooting and not passing.
and yet last season I felt (and I think others did too if I remember rightly) that too often we overplayed and missed the chance to shoot - attempting to walk it into the goal
Not going against what you said, I agree. But it seems we need to find that balance, the scales have tipped one way and now theyre tipping the other. I dont know how often others cook or bake, but when a recipe says 200 grams, I put some on the scales and it says 100 grams and I think 'huh not as much as thought', I then add a lot more and end up at 400 grams, I think 'oh I went over the top there', then you find the balance. Too many glases of wine? 049:gif
The team clearly missed a fit Tom Cairney. Once he is back match fit and Fonte has a bit more time to bed in, I think the only thing between automatic promotion and this team is time.
Before the game I said I'd take a win however it came. A win duly arrived so I'll take that gratefully and move on
Scrappy win tonight, win whatever way we can at Burton, which is more than possible , sets us up to play Forest and Boro with 1 defeat in 8. What's more, Forest and Boro have an extra game to play midweek in the league cup so we need to take advantage and make the extra freshness count. Not sure on the status of the injuries but if either TC or Fonte are available for either forest / Boro then it's a bonus.
If we can't beat Burton for a confidence boost , I'd be concerned, and a great time to get first consecutive wins since April
Not a great performance at all,but a win is a win.
Worrying thing for me last 2 games is Kalas,had a bad half in each game,tonight first half he seemed asleep,Ream had to hold them together.
I think Session needs a rest but you have to say that his head never went down although it wasn't one of his best games
Quote from: Andy S on September 13, 2017, 11:09:24 PM
I think Session needs a rest but you have to say that his head never went down although it wasn't one of his best games
Yes he wasn't great tonight,should have buried that header.
It was only dicey because Sess shockingly missed an absolute sitter and then we got suckerpunched. If it's 2-0, we had bossed the match to that point, and would have been home and hosed. Lesson learned, and good to hang on to a 1-goal win for once.
Quote from: Statto on September 13, 2017, 11:39:28 PM
sessegnon got walked over all night, not for the first time this season, which is odd because in several other games already he's been MOTM
would like to see odoi at LB and sess on the wing rather than ojo next weekend, ojo doesn't really do enough for me, although having watched the highlights i admit he did well for that assist on the first goal
norwood is sooooooooooooooooo much poorer than cairney it's painful, when piazon is back i'd have norwood 3rd in the queue for that slot and hopefully nowhere near starting, sorry i just do not rate him
nonetheless we outplayed hull and deserved the win, would have a been a casual 3-0 or 4-0 if sessegnon had buried that sitter, and all that without our best player and without our only striker
I don't think we outplayed Hull. Too many times we made poor passes and we were lucky the opposition didn't punish us because I thought they looked dangerous every time they approached our end in the second half.
Funny, I thought Norwood was MOTM tonight. At least the majority of his passes were forward, and he can pick out players well.
I think there are problems with confidence and team cohesion with key players injured, and new players bedding in, which a couple of wins will help to overcome.
I don't know how McGregor kept that one from Ayite out..Great Save.
Winning is the best way for new players to adapt and gain confidence.
There were several wins in the second half of last season that were a bit like this one. The team will draw strength from holding fast in what was a slightly bonkers final 10 minutes.
There's a few things to work on. The front 3 interchanged their position a lot and I got the sense that it confused them more than the opposition. That said we got two goals.
If we had lost the season wouldn't be looking to clever and the players knew it. If we can get a result at Burton -and we really should - then confidence shouldn't be a problem and I'd hope for a good run.
A scrappy game but pleased with a win. Really poor low energy first half. Thought we made quite a few poor decisions in the game. However, we did create good chances in the second half. Sess getting bullied quite a bit at left back and needs to improve strength. Norwood looks poor and I don't think he is helping keep control of the game. Likewise SJ was poor with some of his passing. Forward three didn't really properly click.
Much to improve on but pleased to win.
I don´t mind an ugly win now & again when we are not playing well. Look how many times Brighton did this last season. We slaughtered them twice last season & lost both matches.
With Cairney back 100% fit we will see a change. He is our most influential player who will have us playing at our best. We have only had him for 1 full game when he was only 50% fit.
Would really want to know how serious his knee problem is.
Actually I'm quite surprised by the tone of this thread. When you actually look at it Hull scored from their only real chance inside the box. Other than that we restricted them to potshots from 20 yards.
First half we dominated completely and while we (as usual) weren't good enough at turning good situations into chances and then into goals, it's because we lacked a true centre forward (other than AK who seems to be more of an impact sub). First goal came because of Kebano playing like a centre forward, picking up a direct ball and showing strength to get it out to Ojo who did the decent thing by beating his man and crossing it to where we had, for pretty much the only time in the first half, Kebano at the nearpost (credit to him), Ayite to tap it in and also 2 players coming in from the edge. This is important - Kebano did what our players don't normally do and played like a number 9, strength and then bust a gut to get to the nearpost. Once in the game. And we scored from it. Lack of that centre forward play on a regular basis is the main problem here.
Second half - as predicted Hull really tried for 15 minutes and we struggled to keep them at bay. But we turned it round and reestablished our hold on the game. Last 10 minutes aside, we looked fairly comfortable. That is without the needless mistakes on the ball - we do overplay sometimes and got away with giving it to them a couple of times too often for comfort. And Norwood is a complete liablility. No positional sense and will always try to over complicate and show off in possession. The sooner TC is back the better.
Such a shame the header didn't go in to make it 2-0, I think it would have been the best goal I've ever seen (no exaggeration). It was a real Barcelona at their prime type passage of play, I think every player touched the ball, it switched across the pitch and it was truly beautiful, the highlights on Sky only show a fraction of it. But he missed so it will be forgotten. Such a shame. I have always preferred that team goal to a Kasami style goal - personal preference.
Generally good, flashes of brilliance, flashes of incompetence, improvement needed, more classic centre forward play required. Just like last season really.
The problem wasn't that we didn't deserve to win, it was that we didn't play to our standard. There was a lack of cohesion among the players and the combination play rarely came off, whenever it did it resulted in a good chance.
Just lucky that Hull were worse. If we played to our normal level, that'd have been a three or four goal spanking.
But, at the end of the day, a win is a win.
Hull were not great, but they closed us down very hard and quickly and were desperate to make up for the last result they had. We have lost games like this in the past so to win shows progress, to win without our best 2 players whilst bedding in 3 or 4 new players is very good.
Quote from: abfg on September 14, 2017, 11:08:01 AM
Actually I'm quite surprised by the tone of this thread. When you actually look at it Hull scored from their only real chance inside the box. Other than that we restricted them to potshots from 20 yards.
First half we dominated completely and while we (as usual) weren't good enough at turning good situations into chances and then into goals, it's because we lacked a true centre forward (other than AK who seems to be more of an impact sub). First goal came because of Kebano playing like a centre forward, picking up a direct ball and showing strength to get it out to Ojo who did the decent thing by beating his man and crossing it to where we had, for pretty much the only time in the first half, Kebano at the nearpost (credit to him), Ayite to tap it in and also 2 players coming in from the edge. This is important - Kebano did what our players don't normally do and played like a number 9, strength and then bust a gut to get to the nearpost. Once in the game. And we scored from it. Lack of that centre forward play on a regular basis is the main problem here.
Second half - as predicted Hull really tried for 15 minutes and we struggled to keep them at bay. But we turned it round and reestablished our hold on the game. Last 10 minutes aside, we looked fairly comfortable. That is without the needless mistakes on the ball - we do overplay sometimes and got away with giving it to them a couple of times too often for comfort. And Norwood is a complete liablility. No positional sense and will always try to over complicate and show off in possession. The sooner TC is back the better.
Such a shame the header didn't go in to make it 2-0, I think it would have been the best goal I've ever seen (no exaggeration). It was a real Barcelona at their prime type passage of play, I think every player touched the ball, it switched across the pitch and it was truly beautiful, the highlights on Sky only show a fraction of it. But he missed so it will be forgotten. Such a shame. I have always preferred that team goal to a Kasami style goal - personal preference.
Generally good, flashes of brilliance, flashes of incompetence, improvement needed, more classic centre forward play required. Just like last season really.
I wouldn't say Norwood is a complete liability, but I've been disappointed in his play.
