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Title: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Darkside on September 23, 2017, 05:34:12 PM
After yet another match where we should have won- but didn't.

You know what the rhetoric is.

We made plenty of decent chances but couldn't find the final pass into the goal.
ie we had a decent midfield but the chances couldn't be converted.

We made bad defensive decisions that cost us
ie yet again we couldn't defend a corner

Every match the same.

It's getting rather boring (and very frustrating when we take a lead then chuck it away)

A point a game obviously won't even make top 10, and would be flirting with the wrong end of the table.

Last season looking more of an upward blip, back to normal this season

Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: J.Perkins on September 23, 2017, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
It's getting rather boring reading the same complaints on here about the manager's comments to be honest.

No matter what the result and who your manager is, post match interviews will always involve the same cliches. How have some not worked that out?

Isn't that the definition of insanity - watching 1,000s of identical interviews and still expecting something different next time?

Is it also worth pointing out that we played really well today?

We did play well.

We also let in another goal straight after scoring.

The manager can't take the credit for one and not take the blame for another.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: AlexW132 on September 23, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
It's getting rather boring reading the same complaints on here about the manager's comments to be honest.

No matter what the result and who your manager is, post match interviews will always involve the same cliches. How have some not worked that out?

Isn't that the definition of insanity - watching 1,000s of identical interviews and still expecting something different next time?

Is it also worth pointing out that we played really well today?
I couldn't care less if we played well if it didn't result in 3 points.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: AlexW132 on September 23, 2017, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: AlexW132 on September 23, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
It's getting rather boring reading the same complaints on here about the manager's comments to be honest.

No matter what the result and who your manager is, post match interviews will always involve the same cliches. How have some not worked that out?

Isn't that the definition of insanity - watching 1,000s of identical interviews and still expecting something different next time?

Is it also worth pointing out that we played really well today?
I couldn't care less if we played well if it didn't result in 3 points.

Then I couldn't care less about you because you're obviously numpty
Explain
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: One Martin Thomas on September 23, 2017, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: AlexW132 on September 23, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
It's getting rather boring reading the same complaints on here about the manager's comments to be honest.

No matter what the result and who your manager is, post match interviews will always involve the same cliches. How have some not worked that out?

Isn't that the definition of insanity - watching 1,000s of identical interviews and still expecting something different next time?

Is it also worth pointing out that we played really well today?
I couldn't care less if we played well if it didn't result in 3 points.

Then I couldn't care less about you because you're obviously a numpty

Not sure that was necessary!!!
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Mince n Tatties on September 23, 2017, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Sorry but what is the point of a forum to discuss Fulham issues if you only care about 2 numbers, 1-1


OK Here's an issue for you.
When come May and we've finished 14th in table,are you still going to say !Yes but we did play well!
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Keynsham on September 23, 2017, 07:08:52 PM
It's a losing battle, Statto.  It really is.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: MikeW on September 23, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
Getting a bit fed up with the quick reply option not posting anything I write.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: filham on September 23, 2017, 08:36:54 PM
It would be nice for the manager to admit and explain why we have not yet achieved the performance levels of last season. Come on, be honest, we all felt that with a new centre forward and decent cover for our midfield we could be top of the table by now.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: filham on September 23, 2017, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 06:33:18 PM
Sorry but what is the point of a forum to discuss Fulham issues if you only care about 2 numbers, 1-1

Of course those two numbers are always of prime importance but there are so many ways and means of getting them correct.
That is the point of all of the discussion.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: BestOfBrede on September 23, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
Some are only here to complain
They only post when we don't win and take a week off when we do!
Won't be long before we go on a 4-5 game winning streak to be free of their negativeness
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Twig on September 23, 2017, 10:09:34 PM
Quote from: filham on September 23, 2017, 08:36:54 PM
It would be nice for the manager to admit and explain why we have not yet achieved the performance levels of last season. Come on, be honest, we all felt that with a new centre forward and decent cover for our midfield we could be top of the table by now.

Well I didn't because I felt our summer transfer window was driven by a desire to break even and was insufficiently ambitious.  I agree with Statto that criticisms of our manager's post match comments are tedious.
He pretty much sums up our repeated weaknesses. What more do you expect?
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: JoelH5 on September 23, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
I'll tell you what is tedious.. it's tedious having the same people week in week out moan at people when they point out how poor we've been of late.

From last seasons showing I doubt anyone on here can say they didn't expect us to be higher up the table. It seems a bit strange to be having a go at people because they're expressing their dissapointment  with the team's form this season.

I think we're well in our right to be unhappy
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on September 23, 2017, 10:31:17 PM
As Mae West once said "it's not the man in my life but the life in my man..."

Boy have we lost the plot big time @ the start of this season

Joka, Khan's around in the UK

Ticking crocodile stalking you old chap, need to be "more solid" asap & get those wins chalked on the board!

COYW!
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 23, 2017, 10:41:52 PM
Khans only in England at the moment cause of that Circus the NFL, he just happened to pop into Fulham to show his Boat.  051
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on September 23, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Woolly

"When the boat come in, tho'w shall have a fishy, on a little dishy..."

When the boat comes in

Jack Ford, Horry Manners et al

Spoiler warning...


Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on September 23, 2017, 11:08:30 PM
 Boat = Boat Race = Face 051
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: davew on September 23, 2017, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 23, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
Some are only here to complain
They only post when we don't win and take a week off when we do!
Won't be long before we go on a 4-5 game winning streak to be free of their negativeness
Hope it is during my lifetime Brede (I rarely post now....can't compete with all the negativity).
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: VicHalomsLovechild on September 24, 2017, 06:55:18 AM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on September 23, 2017, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: AlexW132 on September 23, 2017, 05:57:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 23, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
It's getting rather boring reading the same complaints on here about the manager's comments to be honest.

No matter what the result and who your manager is, post match interviews will always involve the same cliches. How have some not worked that out?

Isn't that the definition of insanity - watching 1,000s of identical interviews and still expecting something different next time?

Is it also worth pointing out that we played really well today?
I couldn't care less if we played well if it didn't result in 3 points.

Then I couldn't care less about you because you're obviously a numpty

Not sure that was necessary!!!

You're probably right but the greater crime is just caring about the points.
Imagine a forum where the posts searched out the endeavour, the effort, the skill and tenacity of the team and let go of the occasional errors, bad luck and injustices. Looked forward to the next game. Premier league or Sunday league, it matters not. They are our team and we, their supporters not their critics.

Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Twig on September 24, 2017, 07:26:21 AM
Quote from: JoelH5 on September 23, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
I'll tell you what is tedious.. it's tedious having the same people week in week out moan at people when they point out how poor we've been of late.

From last seasons showing I doubt anyone on here can say they didn't expect us to be higher up the table. It seems a bit strange to be having a go at people because they're expressing their dissapointment  with the team's form this season.

I think we're well in our right to be unhappy

I did not have a go at anyone for expressing disappointment at our performances. I said that criticisms of Slav's post match summaries are becoming tedious. That is different. I'm as frustrated as the next person with our failure to close out and win games.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: toshes mate on September 24, 2017, 08:19:16 AM
It was better. Although the margins of improvement are increasingly more subtle and difficult to determine within an atmosphere of changes and injuries the problems are still down to conceding goals when we should be shutting opponents out and scoring a higher goal to attack ratio.  Are the present personnel up to it?  Some clearly are and some clearly are not, while what remains are some who are improving the qualities SJ requires because they really want to play for this side.  It'll click together a little better next game against Forest - perhaps a convincing win even - but I'd still guess that next month, after the break, is when the jigsaw takes much better shape. 

As BestOfBrede says, the moaners always shout louder on here and I often wonder if that is why we cannot get a better Craven Cottage atmosphere.   
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Mince n Tatties on September 24, 2017, 08:30:20 AM
Quote from: davew on September 23, 2017, 11:59:46 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on September 23, 2017, 09:38:23 PM
Some are only here to complain
They only post when we don't win and take a week off when we do!
Won't be long before we go on a 4-5 game winning streak to be free of their negativeness
Hope it is during my lifetime Brede (I rarely post now....can't compete with all the negativity).

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Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Andy S on September 24, 2017, 09:06:19 AM
When Jimmy hill was a pundit on ITV in the 1970's I remember him saying that an opponent is at their most dangerous after conceding a goal. So in all that time nothing has changed. I think when that happens with about three minutes on the clock as well it doesn't get any better. That was a fair result yesterday against a vey good side that spent a lot of money in the summer after being in the premiership last year. So boxes have been ticked for me that we are heading in the right direction and come the end of the season we won't be too far away from a play-off spot. There were a lot of pluses in yesterday's game for me.
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: Nero on September 24, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: Andy S on September 24, 2017, 09:06:19 AM
When Jimmy hill was a pundit on ITV in the 1970's I remember him saying that an opponent is at their most dangerous after conceding a goal. So in all that time nothing has changed. I think when that happens with about three minutes on the clock as well it doesn't get any better. That was a fair result yesterday against a vey good side that spent a lot of money in the summer after being in the premiership last year. So boxes have been ticked for me that we are heading in the right direction and come the end of the season we won't be too far away from a play-off spot. There were a lot of pluses in yesterday's game for me.

yes but if slav had any sense he would know by now we cant keep a clean sheet and should think right how do i break this up, lets make a sub get Norwood off and Cisse on, a more defensive  player and break up the flow or do I wait for them to equaliser then do it afterwards. You know if it was Jose yesterday at that point he would have made a defensive sub and locked the game down, Slav needs to start learning some game management
Title: Re: Slavisa's post-match assessment
Post by: FulhamStu on September 24, 2017, 10:01:03 AM
It's how we finish the season that will define our season not how we start.  We are still bedding in new players and trying to find a way of replacing the best player in the league.  We play great football still, just need to adjust a few things to produce better results.