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Title: Another Question
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 12, 2017, 05:12:53 PM
Would we have stayed up had we have stuck with Mulenstien?
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Post by: alfie on October 12, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
A question that can never be answered
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Post by: MJG on October 12, 2017, 05:26:40 PM
No
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Post by: colinwhite on October 12, 2017, 05:44:04 PM
Absolutely no chance!
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Post by: David Allen Crankshaw on October 12, 2017, 05:59:01 PM
No.
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Post by: aaronmcguigan on October 12, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
Nothing against Rene but that squad, from its characters to their application, fitness and motivation was doomed. He would probably earn a point or 2 more than Felix but also take a few 6-0 batterings too
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Post by: Andy S on October 12, 2017, 09:04:31 PM
There is a possibility but..........
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Post by: cottage expat on October 12, 2017, 09:59:57 PM
I very much doubt it. Rene was a decent, experienced coach but we'd already started down the slippery slope on his watch.
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Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 12, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
We would have stood a better chance of staying up with Rene.
But once Magath had sunk his teeth into Fulham's neck, any chance we may have had went down the toilet.
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Post by: MJG on October 13, 2017, 07:59:05 AM
Nothing in any of the records says Rene would have kept us up.

Jol record 13 games 10 points (3 points last 6 games)

Rene record 13 games 10 Points. (1 point last 6 games)

Sacked when bottom at 26 games and 20 points and 4 points short of 17th

Magath record 12 games 12 points (8 points last 6 games) Form wise we were 16th for last 12 games.

Finished 19th 4 points short of 17th
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Post by: The Old Count on October 13, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
No but we probably would have if we'd got Pullis in. 

Out of interest - How may on here would have taken Pullis if it meant staying in the Prem.  Or, to put it another way: Premier League v integrity.
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Post by: MJG on October 13, 2017, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: The Old Count on October 13, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
No but we probably would have if we'd got Pullis in. 

Out of interest - How may on here would have taken Pullis if it meant staying in the Prem.  Or, to put it another way: Premier League v integrity.
Not in  a million bloody years should that @&%$£"3$ be anywhere near this club.
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Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 13, 2017, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: MJG on October 13, 2017, 09:00:26 AM
Quote from: The Old Count on October 13, 2017, 08:53:48 AM
No but we probably would have if we'd got Pullis in. 

Out of interest - How may on here would have taken Pullis if it meant staying in the Prem.  Or, to put it another way: Premier League v integrity.
Not in  a million bloody years should that @&%$£"3$ be anywhere near this club.

Blimey I didnt catch that, was that profane language I hear.
I would call him more a £?@&$€¥%#, or better still a ✡️☸️♈️⛎🛐♐️♋️♎️♉️🕎♍️, or if you really want to know how I really feel, he is nothing but a ❌🚫📛💢♨️🚷🚯🚭📵🔞🚱⁉️, in other words he can 🌀Ⓜ️❎♿️🈂💠🌐🆙📶➖➗💲✖️🎶🎵🔚🔙💣💣💣💣.... OFF
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Post by: Keynsham on October 13, 2017, 10:16:35 AM
No and no.
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Post by: filham on October 13, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
I think the answer is no but we would probably been in better shape at the start of the next season.
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Post by: aaronmcguigan on October 13, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
The overriding feeling as an outsider seemed to be the lack of fitness and motivation throughout those first 26 games. It was downhill from Jol and Rene couldn't find the brakes , throwing Cole and Tunnicliffe straight into a huge game showed he didn't know what he was doing and just thought a United bias would improve us

The logic in Felixs appointment was clear. The dictator style authoritarian leadership to kick a few behinds and improve fitness. It failed miserably when he used odd methods, bizarre attempts at leadership and without a window, used the kids to shake things up and was a failure waiting to happen. His championship start exposed him as a woeful fit for the squad, our club and this league
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Post by: aaronmcguigan on October 13, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
Anytime I type in D O O M E D , it comes up as doomed . Any idea why?
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Post by: Tabby on October 13, 2017, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on October 13, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
Anytime I type in D O O M E D , it comes up as making repetitive replies that aren't funny!  . Any idea why?

Probably a word substitution put in by the mods from back when half the posts consisted of that a couple of seasons ago.
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Post by: aaronmcguigan on October 13, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
Quote from: Tabby on October 13, 2017, 11:24:28 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on October 13, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
Anytime I type in D O O M E D , it comes up as making repetitive replies that aren't funny!  . Any idea why?

Probably a word substitution put in by the mods from back when half the posts consisted of that a couple of seasons ago.

In a thread pertaining to THAT season, that word had to crop up somewhere
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Post by: MJG on October 13, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: Newry FFC on October 13, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
The overriding feeling as an outsider seemed to be the lack of fitness and motivation throughout those first 26 games. It was downhill from Jol and Rene couldn't find the brakes , throwing Cole and Tunnicliffe straight into a huge game showed he didn't know what he was doing and just thought a United bias would improve us

The logic in Felixs appointment was clear. The dictator style authoritarian leadership to kick a few behinds and improve fitness. It failed miserably when he used odd methods, bizarre attempts at leadership and without a window, used the kids to shake things up and was a failure waiting to happen. His championship start exposed him as a woeful fit for the squad, our club and this league
Its been interesting for me to look back at that season and I'd forgotten that on beating Norwich 1-0 we had closed the gap to them to 2 points.

17-Norwich 34-32
18-Fulham 34-30
19-Cardiff 34-29
20-Sunderland 32-25

Sunderland ended up in 14th place with 38 points (13 from 6 games) and the other 3 teams ended up going down.
WBA in 17th place on 36 and much better GD means we would have need 37 to stay up.
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Post by: aaronmcguigan on October 13, 2017, 04:06:49 PM
75 minutes gone v Hull we were 2-0 up. That would have taken us out of the relegation zone with 33 points after 36 games. Instead Jelavic and Long scored to finish 2-2 to move us to 31 points and stay in 18th.
Sunderland had 2 games in hand on 29 points but a win at that point would have been a massive psychological boost.

Sunderland won their games in hand and then Felix decided it would be ok to stick Dan Burn at right back and we got beat 4-1 at Stoke to leave us 4 points behind Sunderlands 35.

Don't know if all this is 100% accurate but it's vivid in my head!