Button;
Fredericks, Kalas, Odoi, Soares;
Norwood, Edun;
Mollo, Cairney, Sessegnon;
Fonte
Bettinelli, Ream, Johansen, O'Riley, Ayite, Kebano, Kamara
Any line up is ok as long as Slav has read the riot act and seen a complete reaction from all players and coaches from final whistle at Wolves to the first whistle v Derby .
If we go in to any match with the same line up , tactics and mentality and just hope results turn in our favour then it's a recipe for disaster.
I hope it's as obvious to the management and coaches as it is to the fans than some kind of drastic change is needed whether it's in tactics, personnel or mentality.
Worried and think we will really miss McDonald as hes been far ahead of the other players performance and consistenly wise and hoping for at least a piont.
Team wise whoevers in the shirt they all need to give every ounce of blood sweat and tears.
Yes we will miss McDonald and we really have to do something different. A few more long crosses and quick balls up tp a target man, Kamara is the only one to fill the Target man role. Also move Sess forward with the freedom to roam and cause trouble in the Derby defence.
Button
Fredericks Kalas Ream Soares
Norewood Cairney
Ayite Sess. Kebano
Kamara
Very light weight midfields being proposed for a game vs Derby
Quote from: Milo on November 14, 2017, 05:58:48 PM
Very light weight midfields being proposed for a game vs Derby
As we have said we are going to miss McDonald, I suppose we could play Odoi in front of the back four, he has been good thisseason when he has played.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
Is it confirmed that McDonald and Johansen are out, or just a forum rumour?
...and is it confirmed that Cairney is *not* out, or is that just a forum rumour?
Genuine question
McDonald suspended for 5 yellows.
Johansen just off form, no injury to note.
Cairney, will he ever be fit?
Button;
Fredericks, Kalas, Ream, Soares;
Norwood, Johansen, Cairney;
Mollo, Fonte, Sessegnon
Would be my team.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 14, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Button;
Fredericks, Kalas, Ream, Soares;
Norwood, Johansen, Cairney;
Mollo, Cairney, Sessegnon;
Fonte
Would be my team.
I like the Cairney pick, but I'm concerned about the Cairney pick.
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 14, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on November 14, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Button;
Fredericks, Kalas, Ream, Soares;
Norwood, Johansen, Cairney;
Mollo, Cairney, Sessegnon;
Fonte
Would be my team.
I like the Cairney pick, but I'm concerned about the Cairney pick.
ahahahaha was hoping no one saw
Try 451 and put Ream in midfield for McDonald. Button, Fred,Kallas,Madl,Odoi,Mollo,Johansen,Cairny,Ream,Sess, A Forward. Not feeling positive about getting a result tbh. Just hope the players give it a go.
—————————Betts
Fredricks——Kalas——-Ream——Soares
————————- Cisse.
——————Mollo——Cairney———-
Kebano————————————-sess ——
———————— Kamara
Button, odoi, djalo, Norwood, johansen
Ayite, fonte
I shall not even hazard a guess what the starting 11 will be.
But it needs to be well balanced, and we need to ensure we have a solid defensive unit to give us a launching pad, with plenty of traffic in midfield. We need to break them up when they have the ball. The defence has to be resilient and that includes the keeper.
Derby will no doubt close us down quickly, and we must be aware of not giving the Ball away cheaply in defensive areas.
We also need someone up front will ensure the ball sticks.
Jok has to get the midfield right, that's the engine room.
What is important is that the 11 who start have to get their act together right from the whistle.
They all have to bust a gut and win their own battles.
The players and the manager have had plenty of time to think about this game. We are at home, it's time the team delivered.
Norwood may not be ready to play after the other night, and we don't know about Cairney.
Cisse to start?
Soares at LB, with Sess further forward?
Who leads the line, Kamara or Fonte?
Will Ojo play a role? he is back in training, as is Piazon.
This will be interesting... with Kline's meddling out of the way,
Joka (hopefully, finally??!!) can peacefully pick a team.
Both Khans need to back off.
Anybody else did I missed?... the tea lady? did the captain interfere?
Well, no matter.... Back OFF!
The new tea lady looks remarkably like Craig Kline.
I can only see another defeat for us on Saturday, we just don't have 11 players good enough or available to take on Derby!
Quote from: davew on November 15, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
I can only see another defeat for us on Saturday, we just don't have 11 players good enough or available to take on Derby!
Blimey Dave, even by your standards thats an early start with the gloom!!
Sadly, I think you may be right.
I would play Odoi in there. We really need someone with energy who can just break up play. Bring Kalas back in. I would go.
Button
Fredericks Kalas Ream Soares (Should be fit after this break now)
Odoi
TC Norwood
Ojo (if fit). Sess
Fonte
Although his finishing was terrible against QPR and Burton Ojo's pace just caused mega problems. I think the time for Soares to play if he is going to is now. If we have a rumoured 15 million agreed depending on promotion this lad must be able to play. He looked off the pace and knackered against Wolves so I would expect him to be doing heavy fitness work over these next 2 weeks. Choosing the front man is the hardest thing at the moment. Fonte just edges it for me, he experience gets him the start over Kamara.
Button
Fredericks - Kalas - Ream - Soares
Cairney - Cisse - Johansen
Mollo - Kamara - Kebano
Bench: Bettinelli, Odoi, Sessegnon, Edun, Norwood, Ayite & Fonte
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 15, 2017, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: davew on November 15, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
I can only see another defeat for us on Saturday, we just don't have 11 players good enough or available to take on Derby!
Blimey Dave, even by your standards thats an early start with the gloom!!
Sadly, I think you may be right.
LOL, woke up this morning feeling depressed then went onto this board, hence the early start!! On a positive note, I cannot see how a team can be picked which doesn't include Odoi!
Quote from: supersimmo123 on November 15, 2017, 11:57:34 AM
I would play Odoi in there. We really need someone with energy who can just break up play. Bring Kalas back in. I would go.
Button
Fredericks Kalas Ream Soares (Should be fit after this break now)
Odoi
TC Norwood
Ojo (if fit). Sess
Fonte
Although his finishing was terrible against QPR and Burton Ojo's pace just caused mega problems. I think the time for Soares to play if he is going to is now. If we have a rumoured 15 million agreed depending on promotion this lad must be able to play. He looked off the pace and knackered against Wolves so I would expect him to be doing heavy fitness work over these next 2 weeks. Choosing the front man is the hardest thing at the moment. Fonte just edges it for me, he experience gets him the start over Kamara.
I would go for Kamara instead of Fonte, he may look raw but offers more pace, strength and enthusiasm than Fonte.
Essential that every man is fully match fit and therefore we have to question if Cairney is ready to start.
I am with Brightster#2: time to play Betts.
Quote from: davew on November 15, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
I can only see another defeat for us on Saturday, we just don't have 11 players good enough or available to take on Derby!
We need to sign at least 4 wingers in the January Window.
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 15, 2017, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: davew on November 15, 2017, 11:38:13 AM
I can only see another defeat for us on Saturday, we just don't have 11 players good enough or available to take on Derby!
Blimey Dave, even by your standards thats an early start with the gloom!!
Sadly, I think you may be right.
Have to agree without KMac we are even smaller and will likely suffer defending anything in the air.
Rowett is a really good Championship manager, and in previous encounters has pretty much outsmarted us.
Quote from: Moobs Like Dejagaha on November 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
I am with Brightster#2: time to play Betts.
What??? Buttons been one of our best players this season
Quote from: Moobs Like Dejagaha on November 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
I am with Brightster#2: time to play Betts.
Things are bad enough.
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 16, 2017, 09:04:52 PM
Quote from: Moobs Like Dejagaha on November 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
I am with Brightster#2: time to play Betts.
Things are bad enough.
It does seem odd does'nt it but I do understand why people want change. Button has been Man of the Match material a couple of times and invariably stops at least one more goal per game ruining our stats. As if to highlight our current predicament Button, Kmac, Sess in a luxurious free role and possibly Odoi would be my only regular starters at the moment.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 16, 2017, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: Moobs Like Dejagaha on November 15, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
I am with Brightster#2: time to play Betts.
What??? Buttons been one of our best players this season
Agree with you, how is Betts going to help us score goals, is he any good playing up front??
Going back to the change keeper comment, clutching at straws springs to mind!! Now enjoying a Delboy special g & t, 1st tonight!!
We're playing a 4 3 3.
Button.
Fred Kalas Ream Sess
Norwood Cisse Johansen
Ayite Fonte Cairney.
I really could not hazard a guess to which starting 11 will be selected. I get the feeling up until the Wolves match the Manager was starting to stick pins in the names on a squad list with his eyes closed.
Which was more or less what our last two managers resulted in doing prior to their demise.
I am not saying the same thing will happen to the current manager.
Maybe the two week break has bought him time to take stock, and seriously consider how he is going to set his stall out on our Home Ground v Derby.
Then again maybe he hasn't, and he knew his starting 11 the day after the Wolves match.
Nevertheless, there is a pattern developing.
(http://img.startingeleven.co.uk/usr/a/5a0e36e5f0fd1.jpg)
Just please, not Sess at left back.
I feel that if Jok starts Sess at left back, that is a bad move, and shows that nothing has been learned.
Wing back yes, or left wing.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 17, 2017, 03:29:18 AM
I feel that if Jok starts Sess at left back, that is a bad move, and shows that nothing has been learned.
Wing back yes, or left wing.
This is the worry. Even though nothing is really working atm, Jokanovic seems to change nothing.
I agree Sess shouldn't play left back. Maybe Odoi, especially as he's good in the air. Not a game to give Rafa his debut.
Cisse should play to give us some steel. Kebano must play but not Mollo. I can see him getting kicked one time too many and reacting to get sent off.
Kamara is not a lone striker and Fonte should lead the line.
Quote from: Asotosyios on November 17, 2017, 01:11:02 AM
(http://img.startingeleven.co.uk/usr/a/5a0e36e5f0fd1.jpg)
Love Madl but would he be match fit, would Cisse be better? Deffo Odoi for Sess.
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
Is it confirmed that McDonald and Johansen are out, or just a forum rumour?
...and is it confirmed that Cairney is *not* out, or is that just a forum rumour?
Genuine question
McDonald is suspended.
The rumour about Johansen that you are referring to was probably started by me. I started a thread based on interviews he did during the last international break where he said he has a painful groin injury that will require surgery at some point. I have no idea if the club used the international break for his operation or if they've simply rested him. He is pictured training with the team this week but he was not in Norway's squad for the international games (and he is their team captain). Either he's rested and will play (most likely not at 100% like he's done all season) or he's had the operation that will probably leave him out for a couple of weeks.
Cairney... who knows but he's clearly not been the same after his knee injury.
Strange how the club always lists the opposition team's injuries in detail but so little about our own...
Kebano has a hip problem and will be assessed ahead of tomorrow. Johanson has had treatment and should be fit for tomorrow. Norwood will replace McDonald.
I doubt many fans at other Clubs are weighing up team selection, square pegs in round holes or a solid formation, a 100% performance, tactics, a game plan and adapting that game plan, substitutions that work and more goals for than against as much as us. Going to be a busy Saturday afternoon.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 16, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
We're playing a 4 3 3.
Button.
Fred Kalas Ream Sess
Norwood Cisse Johansen
Ayite Fonte Cairney.
By some distance, the worst suggested starting eleven so far, you Sir should take a bow. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
We have been kicking a possible team to play Derby around all week and have come up with a good few alternatives
The crux of the matter is our midfield which really hasn't performed up to expectations all season and probably is the main reason for our poor performances. It has become clear that Cairney and Johansen have not been 100% fit for any match and tomorrow McDonald who has been holding things together is suspended.
The temptation is for the Coach to play Cairney and Johansen even if they are still not 100% fit. I think tomorrow we will need a fully fit team to match a physical Derby team and that if there is any doubt about the fitness of Cainey and Johansen they should watch the match from the stands.
The selected midfield players will have to provide defensive cover for the back four and attacking flare. I would go for:-
Odoi
Norewood Sessegnon
Sess. just has to be moved out of the left back position and he could blossom in a more attacking role.
Mollo just confirmed he's in training with the u23 team tomoro
My team personally would be
Bettinelli
Fredericks Kalas Ream Soares
Norwood
Cairney Johansen
Ayite Sessegon
Kamara
Subs - Button , Odoi , Edun , Ciise, Kebano , Graham , Fonte
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
I shall not even hazard a guess what the starting 11 will be.
But it needs to be well balanced, and we need to ensure we have a solid defensive unit to give us a launching pad, with plenty of traffic in midfield. We need to break them up when they have the ball. The defence has to be resilient and that includes the keeper.
Derby will no doubt close us down quickly, and we must be aware of not giving the Ball away cheaply in defensive areas.
We also need someone up front will ensure the ball sticks.
Jok has to get the midfield right, that's the engine room.
What is important is that the 11 who start have to get their act together right from the whistle.
They all have to bust a gut and win their own battles.
The players and the manager have had plenty of time to think about this game. We are at home, it's time the team delivered.
"We also need someone up front will ensure the ball sticks." - and there's the rub. I am not sure that is going to happen. Jok may be the best carpenter around, but if his saw is missing teeth, and those he has are blunt, then he will leave a jagged edge.
Quote from: Whitesideup on November 18, 2017, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
I shall not even hazard a guess what the starting 11 will be.
But it needs to be well balanced, and we need to ensure we have a solid defensive unit to give us a launching pad, with plenty of traffic in midfield. We need to break them up when they have the ball. The defence has to be resilient and that includes the keeper.
Derby will no doubt close us down quickly, and we must be aware of not giving the Ball away cheaply in defensive areas.
We also need someone up front will ensure the ball sticks.
Jok has to get the midfield right, that's the engine room.
What is important is that the 11 who start have to get their act together right from the whistle.
They all have to bust a gut and win their own battles.
The players and the manager have had plenty of time to think about this game. We are at home, it's time the team delivered.
"We also need someone up front will ensure the ball sticks." - and there's the rub. I am not sure that is going to happen. Jok may be the best carpenter around, but if his saw is missing teeth, and those he has are blunt, then he will leave a jagged edge.
If the wood is from the finest of English Oak, then his saw will have no problem. However if it is soft bolsa wood, then we are on a sticky wicket.
