Let me ask you this, and please answer yes or no,
Q, Does Slavisa Jokanovic currently know his strongest starting eleven ?
If you answered yes, were you happy with the starting eleven against Bolton ?
It seems to me prior to the signings of Mitrovic and Christie that we had a pretty settled side but now (As crazy as it sounds we seem to have to many options)
Personally, I feel that having Piazon AND Fonte in the side slows us down too much, I find it troubling that the likes of Ayite, Kebano and Ojo are going to struggle to get a game now,
I know that I'm in a band of one here, but I actually really like Sheyi Ojo, his pace on the right coupled with Sess on the left gives us far more of a threat, but with the addition of Mitrovic (As a loan player) and the failure to sign Norwood permanently means that we may not see Ojo again, which would be a great shame, because I would really fancy him on that big Wembley pitch,
With a fit Cairney , I think that 9 of the side picks itself , getting those final two positions correct will define our season.
Agreed. I really like ojo as well. Piazon is a great player, very intelligent but yes him and fonte do slow us down. If we look at last season we played best with pace out wide and a target man to be in the box (Chris Martin)
So I would play
Betts
Fred—odoi—ream—targett
Mcdonald
Cairney—johansen
Ojo————————sess
Mitrovic
Subs: betts, Christie, kalas, Norwood, kebano, piazon, kamara
I would have to leave fonte, ayite, cisse out
I see it this way. Its a bit horses for courses . I think if Jocka decides to start with Mitrovic then we will see Ojo or Ayete starting with Sessignon on the other side. If TC starts then I expect Mitrovic to start as well. IF Tc isnt fit enough then I believe he Will go with Piazon as that extra creative player which will probably mean that Fonte also starts as Slavisa clearly sees this as a good partnership. Maybe for the games against teams sitting back we are more likely to go with the better ball retention players (FOtne Piazon ) whilst for playing in the tougher matches we will go with another grouping which will give the team balance in a different way (Carney, Mitro ,Ojo )
.Its going to be interesting to see saturdays starting line up. Dont think Kamara will start as he is not on the same wavelength as the other players even if he has done well individually.
Quote from: Riversider on February 12, 2018, 03:33:42 PM
Let me ask you this, and please answer yes or no,
Q, Does Slavisa Jokanovic currently know his strongest starting eleven ?
If you answered yes, were you happy with the starting eleven against Bolton ?
It seems to me prior to the signings of Mitrovic and Christie that we had a pretty settled side but now (As crazy as it sounds we seem to have to many options)
Personally, I feel that having Piazon AND Fonte in the side slows us down too much, I find it troubling that the likes of Ayite, Kebano and Ojo are going to struggle to get a game now,
I know that I'm in a band of one here, but I actually really like Sheyi Ojo, his pace on the right coupled with Sess on the left gives us far more of a threat, but with the addition of Mitrovic (As a loan player) and the failure to sign Norwood permanently means that we may not see Ojo again, which would be a great shame, because I would really fancy him on that big Wembley pitch,
With a fit Cairney , I think that 9 of the side picks itself , getting those final two positions correct will define our season.
Yes
I agree - in a strange way we have more of a headache with team selection now, than we did before the window!
I too like Ayite, Kebano and Ojo and think they can get us over the finishing line.
'Tis tough, but I fully back and trust Slavisa. He hasn't let us down as yet!
Pleased team selection is not my problem. Should he select a team which the opposition think he will field or should he try to out fox them? Perhaps Fred as FB & Christie as wide right.Both Christie & Sess are good crossers so I would start Mit up top. Which of our 6 loanees will have to drop out?
No. There's no such thing as a best 11. Depends on opposition we face and their style of play
Quote from: Brightster#2 on February 12, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
Agreed. I really like ojo as well. Piazon is a great player, very intelligent but yes him and fonte do slow us down. If we look at last season we played best with pace out wide and a target man to be in the box (Chris Martin)
So I would play
Betts
Fred—odoi—ream—targett
Mcdonald
Cairney—johansen
Ojo————————sess
Mitrovic
Subs: betts, Christie, kalas, Norwood, kebano, piazon, kamara
I would have to leave fonte, ayite, cisse out
I think we can only have 5 loan players in the match-day squad
Quote from: Roberty on February 12, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Brightster#2 on February 12, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
Agreed. I really like ojo as well. Piazon is a great player, very intelligent but yes him and fonte do slow us down. If we look at last season we played best with pace out wide and a target man to be in the box (Chris Martin)
So I would play
Betts
Fred—odoi—ream—targett
Mcdonald
Cairney—johansen
Ojo————————sess
Mitrovic
Subs: betts, Christie, kalas, Norwood, kebano, piazon, kamara
I would have to leave fonte, ayite, cisse out
I think we can only have 5 loan players in the match-day squad
He has only put 5 in his suggested match day squad.
Quote from: Riversider on February 12, 2018, 08:21:47 PM
Quote from: Roberty on February 12, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Brightster#2 on February 12, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
Agreed. I really like ojo as well. Piazon is a great player, very intelligent but yes him and fonte do slow us down. If we look at last season we played best with pace out wide and a target man to be in the box (Chris Martin)
So I would play
Betts
Fred—odoi—ream—targett
Mcdonald
Cairney—johansen
Ojo————————sess
Mitrovic
Subs: betts, Christie, kalas, Norwood, kebano, piazon, kamara
I would have to leave fonte, ayite, cisse out
I think we can only have 5 loan players in the match-day squad
He has only put 5 in his suggested match day squad.
Targett, Ojo, Mitrovic, Kalas, Norwood & Piazon = 6
Sounds great having selection problems which we have, too many wingers and none of them can cross a ball (well certainly not from a corner), a real hotch potch of strikers i.e Fonte maybe a promising attacking midfielder, Kamara sadly not ready to play in the Championship all the gear but little idea (though has deserved more starts), Mitrovic too early to judge him but clearly fitness and speed is not his fonte, sorry I meant forte! It has been a great run of results but performances not really! I hate to sound negative but a bad day on the golf course often starts this depression, I think the Villa game is maybe the most important match of the next 6 we play and team selection is key to getting 3 points, so who would I pick? The back 4 pick themselves normally as do the midfield whether it is TC or Norwood, the key is the front 3. Sess will no doubt get a spot based on his success this season, which then leaves the other 2 positions up front, so this week let's start with Kebano and Ayite, plenty of attacking options left on the bench including Rui!
Quote from: davew on February 12, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
Sounds great having selection problems which we have, too many wingers and none of them can cross a ball (well certainly not from a corner), a real hotch potch of strikers i.e Fonte maybe a promising attacking midfielder, Kamara sadly not ready to play in the Championship all the gear but little idea (though has deserved more starts), Mitrovic too early to judge him but clearly fitness and speed is not his fonte, sorry I meant forte! It has been a great run of results but performances not really! I hate to sound negative but a bad day on the golf course often starts this depression, I think the Villa game is maybe the most important match of the next 6 we play and team selection is key to getting 3 points, so who would I pick? The back 4 pick themselves normally as do the midfield whether it is TC or Norwood, the key is the front 3. Sess will no doubt get a spot based on his success this season, which then leaves the other 2 positions up front, so this week let's start with Kebano and Ayite, plenty of attacking options left on the bench including Rui!
Kebano and Ayite? sounds unlikely given that Fonte, Piazon, Mitro and Kamara were all picked ahead of them last weekend
Fonte and Kamara for me.
Can we create vote to see which front three that is preferred against villa?
Quote from: mlangstrom on February 12, 2018, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: davew on February 12, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
Sounds great having selection problems which we have, too many wingers and none of them can cross a ball (well certainly not from a corner), a real hotch potch of strikers i.e Fonte maybe a promising attacking midfielder, Kamara sadly not ready to play in the Championship all the gear but little idea (though has deserved more starts), Mitrovic too early to judge him but clearly fitness and speed is not his fonte, sorry I meant forte! It has been a great run of results but performances not really! I hate to sound negative but a bad day on the golf course often starts this depression, I think the Villa game is maybe the most important match of the next 6 we play and team selection is key to getting 3 points, so who would I pick? The back 4 pick themselves normally as do the midfield whether it is TC or Norwood, the key is the front 3. Sess will no doubt get a spot based on his success this season, which then leaves the other 2 positions up front, so this week let's start with Kebano and Ayite, plenty of attacking options left on the bench including Rui!
Kebano and Ayite? sounds unlikely given that Fonte, Piazon, Mitro and Kamara were all picked ahead of them last weekend
Fonte and Kamara for me.
Can we create vote to see which front three that is preferred against villa?
Maybe it is unlikely but we only scrambled a draw, neither of my choices played, maybe just clutching at straws! Good idea about creating a vote, a couple on here know how to set it up.
Fans views.... We have small squad we must buy otherwise we will struggle
Fans view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
"do we have a problem with team selection"
if WE is Fulham FC, then no. Look at our unbeaten streak. That should show you we're doing quite well with team selection
if WE is folks on this board, then yes. There are people on this board who have a problem with every player we have on the books.
Quote from: Statto on February 12, 2018, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 12, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
Fans views.... We have small squad we must buy otherwise we will struggle
Fans view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
FansOne moaner's view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
fair response
Quote from: MJG on February 12, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 12, 2018, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 12, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
Fans views.... We have small squad we must buy otherwise we will struggle
Fans view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
FansOne moaner's view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
fair response
Why not just answer the question,were you happy with the starting eleven on Saturday against Bolton ?
Quote from: Riversider on February 13, 2018, 12:07:10 AM
Why not just answer the question,were you happy with the starting eleven on Saturday against Bolton ?
Yes.
What now?
Quote from: Arthur on February 13, 2018, 02:00:31 AM
Quote from: Riversider on February 13, 2018, 12:07:10 AM
Why not just answer the question,were you happy with the starting eleven on Saturday against Bolton ?
Yes.
What now?
I will even go as far as yes and yes.
Q, Does Slavisa Jokanovic currently know his strongest starting eleven ?
If you answered yes, were you happy with the starting eleven against Bolton ?
Quote from: HatterDon on February 12, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
"do we have a problem with team selection"
if WE is Fulham FC, then no. Look at our unbeaten streak. That should show you we're doing quite well with team selection
if WE is folks on this board, then yes. There are people on this board who have a problem with every player we have on the books.
Yup, spot on here. Thank goodness we aren't running the show!
Quote from: Riversider on February 13, 2018, 12:07:10 AM
Quote from: MJG on February 12, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 12, 2018, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: MJG on February 12, 2018, 10:17:11 PM
Fans views.... We have small squad we must buy otherwise we will struggle
Fans view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
FansOne moaner's view... We have too many players, manger doesn't know his best XI, he must sort it otherwise we will struggle
fair response
Why not just answer the question,were you happy with the starting eleven on Saturday against Bolton ?
yes
Quote from: grandad on February 12, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
Pleased team selection is not my problem. Should he select a team which the opposition think he will field or should he try to out fox them? Perhaps Fred as FB & Christie as wide right.Both Christie & Sess are good crossers so I would start Mit up top. Which of our 6 loanees will have to drop out?
Of course you don't have an issue with team selection, you've called the subs correctly in how many matches in a row now? 082.gif
Personally as we are currently 5th in the table and on a good run I will trust JOKA to decide who plays in each match after all that is his job 049:gif
Before window some people (on here) were saying 'what is SJ doing?' After window some people (on here) are saying 'what is SJ doing?'
Are the team still on target for a top six finish? Yes.
Did the Bolton game make a difference? Yes, but no more so than it would have done whatever the outcome.
Did we and do we (on here) know our best side? No, in either case.
Is there such a thing as a best side for every game? A question for the 'I told you so' brigade to answer after every game.
Is the Villa game important? Of course it is. All games between now and the end of the season are.
Will we (on here) keep a perspective no matter what happens in the Villa game? Of course we won't - we are fans after all.
I was going to start a new thread, but will put this on here as it's relevant to the discussion.
When Watford manager, I am pretty sure they played 2 big lads up top most of the time, one was Deeny.
Slav does have the option of Mitro and Kamara now so will be interesting if he goes with that.
We have many pacey wide players so for me 2nd half on Saturday playing Mitro central and Kamara and Sess wider is a bit of a waste when we have better wide men in Kabano, Ayite and Ojo, you cant really drop Sess as he gives so much incl cover when we are defending and of course goals but I would not personally have played Kamara wide right. He should play through the middle off Mitro or up front on his own.
I think a lot will depend on how Slav sees the game going. Bringing on pace in the latter stages when the game gets stretched makes sense. I think Kebano and Kamara are both better off the bench say after 60 minutes.
Ayite has always been a Slav favourite and I don't think he persuaded Mitro to come by putting him on the bench. I think we will end up with Sess, Mitro and Ayite starting.
At the end of the day, we have all these attacking options and it's not who he picks but how they play. To stay in the team you have to play well, Mitro May be given a couple of extra games to get him up to speed. We also will start to soon have more than one game a week and we are now in a perfect situation to rotate the strikers which I suspect he will do, bringing in Ojo here and there.
Should be a fascinating run in and if these guys want to play, they will have to perform or be dropped.
No.
Defence, midfield and wide left positions pick themselves but we have too many options in for the two remaining positions.
Lone Striker Fonte, Mitrovic, Ayite and Kamara
Wide Right Kebano, Ojo,Piazon,
There is little to choose among these players and we may now find none of them will be given the opportunity to settle in the team for the rest of the season.
Quote from: filham on February 13, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
No.
Defence, midfield and wide left positions pick themselves but we have too many options in for the two remaining positions.
Lone Striker Fonte, Mitrovic, Ayite and Kamara
Agree to some extent however it's rare that everyone is fit, especially strikers and rare that everyone is on top form. Having the potential to change 3 attacking players during the game is also a big advantage but needs to be used correctly. All that and making for strong competition has to be a good thing. It's the coaches job to get the balance right, to pick the right team for the right game, to make good substitutions so Slav will need to perform at his best now he has these challenges.
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