Surely as long as McDonald & Cairney are okay we go with the same team as Saturday? Can't wait to see more of Mitrovic. Feel a bit for Kamara but Mitrovic is exactly what we have been lacking in my opinion
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
Quote from: Mullers OG on February 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
Different views - I quite like what I've seen of Kamara.
Mullers - I think Mitovic looked a bit better than 'all right'? He is everything we have been missing for quite a while. I still think he's carrying a bit of timber but he's still only 23, strong, aggressive and certainly gave an ageing former England captain the run around on Sat.
But realistically - an argument for another day - should (when) we go up we will not have most of our best 6 players contracted after the season end. There are some tough decisions to be made.
Think mitro playing now is important,and I also appreciate what rui brings,it's just mitro is a beast.
We should just think of what such players as Mitro and Targett offer us at the moment - which is a lot.
IF we go up, then is the time to think about what happens next re the team, but we will have Prem money and status for a start.
One game at a time, anyway. If we carry on as we have been, then the players will become even better as they get used to the Fulham set-up, and get match fit.
If we go up it will be easier to rotate players in and out of our club.But the players need to come in that are prem quality and more important athletes ,because a slow start.your always playing catch up!
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Quote from: Mullers OG on February 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
Different views - I quite like what I've seen of Kamara.
Totally different view, if Mitrovic improves just a little more with match time then he is there for the season and could prove to be the difference that clinches promotion. Kamara has to be the substitute striker but can see no place for Fonte.
Yes has to be the same team that sent Villa home pointless.
The worry is are Cairney and McDonald going to be fit.
Norwood could cover for Cairney but who then would come in for McDonald.
Quote from: filham on February 19, 2018, 05:38:54 PM
Yes has to be the same team that sent Villa home pointless.
The worry is are Cairney and McDonald going to be fit.
Norwood could cover for Cairney but who then would come in for McDonald.
I think Odoi could do McDonalds job. Good in the air & can pass.
Piazon or Fonte for Cairney & Norwood for McDonald if they are unfit. But I think they will play. Bristol is the bigger game. Rotate / rest players v Wolves
My concern is Mitrovic. My Newcastle mate says he has a short fuse. Not seem that yet but Flint & co managed to wind Kamara up & got him sent off @ the Cottage. It will be no use to us if we play with 10 men on Wednesday
I am looking forward to seeing Mitrovic v Flint. I am not advocating we should start with someone else
Quote from: FFC73 on February 19, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Piazon or Fonte for Cairney & Norwood for McDonald if they are unfit. But I think they will play. Bristol is the bigger game. Rotate / rest players v Wolves
My concern is Mitrovic. My Newcastle mate says he has a short fuse. Not seem that yet but Flint & co managed to wind Kamara up & got him sent off @ the Cottage. It will be no use to us if we play with 10 men on Wednesday
I am looking forward to seeing Mitrovic v Flint. I am not advocating we should start with someone else
Yes the Bristol game is play off position six pointer, Jocanovic must work hard to ensure Mitrovic's short fuse is not blown.
Quote from: filham on February 19, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Quote from: Whitesideup on February 19, 2018, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on February 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
Different views - I quite like what I've seen of Kamara.
Totally different view, if Mitrovic improves just a little more with match time then he is there for the season and could prove to be the difference that clinches promotion. Kamara has to be the substitute striker but can see no place for Fonte.
[/quote+1, we don't need Rui Fonte!!!!
Quote from: filham on February 19, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: FFC73 on February 19, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Piazon or Fonte for Cairney & Norwood for McDonald if they are unfit. But I think they will play. Bristol is the bigger game. Rotate / rest players v Wolves
My concern is Mitrovic. My Newcastle mate says he has a short fuse. Not seem that yet but Flint & co managed to wind Kamara up & got him sent off @ the Cottage. It will be no use to us if we play with 10 men on Wednesday
I am looking forward to seeing Mitrovic v Flint. I am not advocating we should start with someone else
Yes the Bristol game is play off position six pointer, Jocanovic must work hard to ensure Mitrovic's short fuse is not blown.
I actually think the language barrier between Slav and Kamara is huge whereas there is obviously non between mitro and himself. Hopefully that could be the difference.
I think we need mitro and McDonald as the two key men I. This game, A's was shown Bristol love a set piece and set the troops forward for them. Also from goal kicks flint was hovering around the center circle to win the flick ons and McDonald is the only lump we have in the middle
I'd probably go back to Fonte, TC rested but available, Mitrovic starts whatever. We actually have depth.
I like Ojo and Piazon. Maybe you've heard of these players, they are pretty strong and hopefully hungry.
Watching Bristol City play Leeds, it struck me, that they went hell for leather from the off, then blew out after 65-70 minutes, same as they did v Sunderland. In the early stages, they committed both Flint and Magnusson forward for literally every throw-in, corner, or free-kick outside the penalty area.
I've got to say, this tactic will cause Kalas, Ream and Bettinelli no end of problems, but, here's my thinking.
You play Mitrovic' from the off to give Flint something to think about, and tire / knock him about a bit.
Bryan is good coming forward, so, you put someone pacey on him to peg him back, he's not so good on the back foot, as we see against Leeds.
Pack is out, their talisman, so let Cairney do his thing, the less City do in midfield, the more Reid will have to drop back and help out.
It's important we don't concede early, but, as the game progresses, I'd introduce pace and go for the jugular.
I'd be tempted to go for Kamara up front as I think Bristol will try to get on the front foot and will therefore leave space in behind for AK to exploit. But on the other hand Mitro did so well against Villa so I really can't make a case for leaving him out.
Maybe give Ayite a rest even though he was involved in both our goals against Villa, because he's just back from injuty and we all know how fragile he is.
Bettinelli
Fredericks - Kalas - Ream - Targett
Cairney - McDonald - Johansen
Kamara - Mitrovic - Sessegnon
They concede a considerable amount of late goals. We leave our scoring usually to 60+ min.
We should grind them down for 60, them bring on Mitrovic and Kamara to cause chaos.
Betts
Fredericks Kalas Ream Targett
Cairney McDonald Johansen
Piazon Fonte Sessegnon
Quote from: RaySmith on February 19, 2018, 04:49:53 PM
We should just think of what such players as Mitro and Targett offer us at the moment - which is a lot.
IF we go up, then is the time to think about what happens next re the team, but we will have Prem money and status for a start.
One game at a time, anyway. If we carry on as we have been, then the players will become even better as they get used to the Fulham set-up, and get match fit.
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From Joka's comments today it sounds like there will be some rotation
Jokanović made a hat-trick of changes to his team for the Villa win, and he will continue to make full use of the players at his disposal as the City and Wolverhampton Wanderers fixtures this week mark a hectic eight days.
"I am really satisfied with the mentality of my squad, not only the 11 players who started the game," he stated. "My experience in this competition in the past, when I got promoted one time with Watford, was that I used many players from my squad.
"I cannot survive three games in one week with 11 players. Now we have more options, I have important players in different lines of the team.
"Our expectations are high and we expect we can repeat our good performances, we can play good games with different players.
"I trust that we can all together do a great job and I expect the individual quality of all these people will serve the team."
Given Slavisa's comments, and with Wolves on Saturday, I find it hard to predict his team but, assuming no significant injury worries, I imagine that the keeper and back 4 will certainly remain unchanged. Midfield I expect that perhaps Norwood will come in for TC, depending on TC's fitness. Surely Ryan Sess will still be in front of Targett, to keep that growing understanding and effective partnership. The remaining positions are more difficult, but as others say I'd plump for Mitro for an hour then AK.
The interesting thing is who starts from Ayite/Piazon/Fonte/Ojo/Kebano (is Ojo injured?) We're spoiled for choice really (who'd have thought it!) Think I'd go for Piazon, if training has shown that he and Mitro can combine well. Ayite did very well on Saturday but I'd rest him and look to involve Kebano and Ojo (if available)
So,
Betts
Fred, Kalas, Ream, Targett
KMac, (Norwood/TC), Stefan Jo,
Piazon, Ryan Sess
Mitrovic (AK after 60)
Bench;
Button
Christie
Odoi
AK
Kebano
Ojo
Norwood/TC
Wouldn't be surprised to see Christie in for Fred
Don't know,think I would start the same team.
Quote from: hovewhite on February 20, 2018, 06:04:37 PM
Don't know,think I would start the same team.
Joka said 3 games in a week will see him using his squad fully so I expect to see a couple sets of fresh legs brought into the starting line up
Quote from: Mullers OG on February 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
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Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on February 20, 2018, 01:45:44 PM
They concede a considerable amount of late goals. We leave our scoring usually to 60+ min.
We should grind them down for 60, them bring on Mitrovic and Kamara to cause chaos.
Betts
Fredericks Kalas Ream Targett
Cairney McDonald Johansen
Piazon Fonte Sessegnon
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Why bring Piazon and Fonte in.
Ayite and Mitrovic must start
Fonte is not even worth a place on the bench .
Kebano and Kamara and Ojo in front of him.
Quote from: Mullers OG on February 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
Is Fonte injured? Badly need to get him fit and available quickly. The team needs his skill and ability up front otherwise we'll have more time like the first half on Saturday. We can't rely on Sess scoring all the time. Mitrovic looked alright but Kamara not up to scratch for FFC.
Fonte to do what..
Fonte to warm the bench and turn on the showers after the game
Assuming Fonte is fit then I would like to see the following side tomorrow:-
Betts
Fred Kalas Ream Targett
Johanson TC/Norwood McD
Paizon Fonte Sess
Mitrovic from about 60 mins
Button
Odoi
Kebano
Ayite
Christie
S Sess
If Fonte not fit then start with Mitrovic and have AK on the bench. I would have Ojo rather than AK but that may be too many loanees.
It depends on who is fit Slav and the fitness guys will have taken a look in training and decide. We will find out later today
If Saturday's team was fit then personally I would start with them again. Judging by Slav's comments there may be changes though.
Hope Cairney and McDonald play (get the feeling Kmac bruised back at most), but imagine if anyone is going to be rotated the 3 most vulnerable are TC, Ayite and Mitro for varying fitness / tactical reasons. Surely the rest are a shoe-in if fit.
If TC out I would almost prefer to see Piazon / Fonte tried there over Norwood as both would offer more flair, mobility and dynamism in that role (including in trying to win the ball back with our pressing game which has been vital in our run). Not knocking Norwood as he has done well for us, can certainly pick a pass and is a solid player but doesn't get around the pitch as well.
Not bothered who plays out of Ayite / Piazon / Ojo / Kebano as all can do a job - we really to have strength in those wide forward positions.
Would like to see Christie get a run-out from the bench as well (even though Fred really seems to have upped his game even more since his arrival).
Hope Mitro starts as well. Interesting that Newcastle fans seemed surprised at reports that Mitro worked hard as a lot of them seem to see him as immobile and lazy. Hopefully the Villa game was the penny dropping that he needs to use this loan to kick start his career rather than a 1-game flash in the pan before reverting back to not giving 100%.
We should play our strongest team vs Bristol City and rotate against as Wolves. Firstly we're less likely to beat Wolves anyway and secondly Bristol are just below us and we're only 3 points clear of 7th place, need to widen the gap.
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Agreed, rotate v Wolves ........ really need to beat Bristol for all sorts of reasons.
I doubt that any deliberate rotation is going to happen.
Joka seems to be taking it one game at a time, fielding the best players or the best combinations each time.
