Just seen the footage of his spitting. Shocking actually.
Not sure how he will escape the sack from Sky.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jamie-carragher-spits-football-fan-12169442
Classy guy....
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He must have been provoked.
Sack him!
Sky should sack him. How could he comment at all in the future over say a player spitting in the face of another player.
I can understand him being taunted and all that, but stay classy if you can. He couldn't so bye.
The way he talks it sounds like any minute he would spitting. Not a great pundit IMO no loss.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He must have been provoked.
He was given a hard time previously to this incident, but if you watch the video and listen, he wasn't sworn at or anything like that by this car.
All of these people in the limelight who get caught doing stupid things time and time again.Dont they realise there's always someone out there filming them on their phones....Idiot
Apart from the disgusting nature of his behaviour how can he present himself as a neutral pundit now if he has shown himself to get so angry with opposing fans.
Should be banned from driving too!
Quote from: Statto on March 12, 2018, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He
Sorry but what level of provocation justifies spitting in a little girl's face?
It's so much worse than what Richard Keys got sacked for, it will be quite ridiculous if they don't sack him IMO
(Sorry if you are being sarcastic and I've misunderstood)
Totally agree. Any provocation doesn't excuse it. And Carragher has previously described spitting on the pitch as vile.
Sack him, simple. I don't know what he does for grassroots and youth football but he should start thinking back to basics with his career.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He must have been provoked.
You serious?! Hmm
We've all been there...guy winds you up, you spit in his daughters face. Yeah, the idea of him facing the sack is ridiculous....
Spitting is the lowest anyone can get. I hate to see footballers or any other sportsman or person spitting. If one has mucus or excess saliva use a tissue. Footballers should carry a hankie. LOL
Flobalot............
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He must have been provoked.
Sacked! he should be banned from every football ground in the country, totally disgusting thing to do any were but to spit in a young girls face is unforgivable, he should be sacked and also prosecuted by the Police for assault on a minor!
F#####g idiot.
Poor conduct by Carragher, but the action lacks context, and the only context do have shows a man shamefully filming and goading Carraghers as he drives his car at speed with his daughter in the passenger seat.
Unfortunately the daughter became collateral, but this was because of the Dads actions. Carragher was not just spitting at cars.
If Carragher is sacked by Sky, fair enough, it was poor conduct. But can we also go after the disgraceful Dad who was more interested in getting a video to send to his mates rather than ensuring the safety of his child.
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on March 12, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
Poor conduct by Carragher, but the action lacks context, and the only context do have shows a man shamefully filming and goading Carraghers as he drives his car at speed with his daughter in the passenger seat.
Unfortunately the daughter became collateral, but this was because of the Dads actions. Carragher was not just spitting at cars.
If Carragher is sacked by Sky, fair enough, it was poor conduct. But can we also go after the disgraceful Dad who was more interested in getting a video to send to his mates rather than ensuring the safety of his child.
IMO Carragher's action is utterly reprehensible and he should be taken to task for it according to law (i.e. as is said above, assault) and SKY would be wise to take him off air. In addition, IMO, the father driving while operating a mobile phone should also be punished BUT having just looked at the video footage, the father seems to have no concern that his daughter has been spat at. His tone of voice "Ooooh Jamie Carragher has spat at my daughter, nice" sounds to me - only my opinion - as if he immediately realises that he can get a nice little earner. Doesn't excuse Carragher in any way and there was no what I would call provocation.
No matter what the provocation, nobody should spit at anybody, let alone in a girls face. A filthy habit. The father is clearly a toe rag also.
But Carragher should have laughed it off or ignored the cretin.
Tells you a lot about Carraghers standard of ethics. Who is he to stand judgement over anybody in the future, and certainly not in the public dormain.
I would be surprised if he keeps his job at Sky now. He has to be dismissed for Gross Misconduct, which includes assault on a minor.
If he survives this, it tells you more about Sky than him.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 12, 2018, 12:23:42 PM
No matter what the provocation, nobody should spit at anybody, let alone in a girls face. A filthy habit. The father is clearly a toe rag also.
But Carragher should have laughed it off or ignored the cretin.
Tells you a lot about Carraghers standard of ethics. Who is he to stand judgement over anybody in the future, and certainly not in the public dormain.
I would be surprised if he keeps his job at Sky now. He has to be dismissed for Gross Misconduct, which includes assault on a minor.
If he survives this, it tells you more about Sky than him.
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One upside may be that Sky replace him with someone who speaks a closer approximation to the English language.
Carra claims not to have seen the daughter (probably sat back in her seat feeling embarrassed by her Dad), and certainly appears to be aiming his flob towards the cameraman.
But disgusting behaviour whatever. He's been quick to properly apologise.... will that be enough?
jamie's just been interviewed on sky - guy looks broken. think he did a bad thing, but feeling a bit sorry for him now after seeing the interview.
If they're interviewing him on Sky they're clearly standing by him. No doubt he'll do some penance of the community service type and probably serve a suspension.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on March 12, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
If they're interviewing him on Sky they're clearly standing by him. No doubt he'll do some penance of the community service type and probably serve a suspension.
i don't think they are standing by him. interviewer (who would have been told throughout interview by her producer what questions to ask him in her earpiece) gave him a real grilling.
he's been suspended as well at this stage.
Quote from: Neil D on March 12, 2018, 02:06:36 PM
One upside may be that Sky replace him with someone who speaks a closer approximation to the English language.
Slav can fill in if needs be
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Quote from: Neil D on March 12, 2018, 02:06:36 PM
One upside may be that Sky replace him with someone who speaks a closer approximation to the English language.
Slav can fill in if needs be
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Quote from: Milo on March 12, 2018, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: Neil D on March 12, 2018, 02:06:36 PM
One upside may be that Sky replace him with someone who speaks a closer approximation to the English language.
Slav can fill in if needs be
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I don't have Sky and I'm glad, if only for the fact that JC's voice totally grates on me. It's a form of aural torture.
I used to feel the same about Steve Claridge on 5-Live but I can just about tolerate his voice now - less so his observations and the way he expresses them.
Apparently Sky have told Jamie Carragher to Calm down, Clam down.
Never did like him
Quote from: Statto on March 12, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on March 12, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
jamie's just been interviewed on sky - guy looks broken. think he did a bad thing, but feeling a bit sorry for him now after seeing the interview.
I struggle to feel sorry for footballers given what they're paid but at least it's usually justified by some special talent. Carragher has been so lucky as to have not only been paid to play football, but he has subsequently been paid huge amounts of money to talk on TV, something he is awful at, as noted above, because most people can't even understand him.
Correct.
And Slaphead,how can you feel sorry for him.😵
I reckon he should be put in the stocks and all the passers by spit in his face,see if he likes it.
His position is untenable, if he is genuinely sincere about his regret, he should do the honourable thing and resign with immediate effect.
Clearly the interviewer had no sympathy for him.
He has brought shame on himself and his family as well as his employers, it is going to be difficult for him to recover from this situation he has orchestrated for himself and everyone else who has been dragged into this affair.
Quote from: Statto on March 12, 2018, 11:29:34 AM
It is also a criminal offence he's committed, assault isn't just punching and kicking but at things like spitting too... someone could easily complain to the police and he wouldn't have a leg to stand on
I agree it's disgusting but it's not an assault, the police could question him for anti social behavour.
Jamie Carragher has really let himself down there... as many have said, banter is part of the game and he gets paid a lot of money to do something that we would all probably do for free!
However, it looks to me like the driver is the one who is doing the filming... while driving... how can he be concentrating on what's happening on the road when he is so focused on filming someone in a car alongside?!!
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 08:57:05 AM
I feel it's ridiculous that should face the sack for this,. He must have been provoked.
Why do you assume he must have been provoked? And why would provocation mitigate such a revolting act? If you read the report the father of the 14 yr old girl can be heard saying "hard luck Jamie lad 2-1". Hardly provocation of even the mildest form.
I have two daughters, grown up now, but if someone had done this to either of them I would have pressed charges for sure.
Perhaps there was more said that is not on the video but even then the action can't be justified. But I also agree that the Dad filming it all whilst driving is a prize p****.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on March 12, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
If they're interviewing him on Sky they're clearly standing by him. No doubt he'll do some penance of the community service type and probably serve a suspension.
Not condoning what he did at all but fair play to him for being brave enough to be interviewed live on Sky for what he did. Don't recall Kirsty Gallagher fronting up for drink driving. And she still kept her job.
Probably rehearsing for the remake of the "Spitting Image" series, he should be fired, can't stand the bloke and as for his accent well that is another story!
Anyone can lose it if abused for no reason, and spitting is pretty mild. Give the bloke a break.
If it was America he'd probably pull out a gun and shoot the abuser - and get away with it as 'justifiable homicide.'
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Anyone can lose it if abused for no reason, and spitting is pretty mild. Give the bloke a break.
If it was America he'd probably pull out a gun and shoot the abuser - and get away with it as 'justifiable homicide.'
In America the driver would probably pulled out a gun and shot Carragher for having an alien accent!
Quote from: Dixie on March 12, 2018, 05:47:45 PM
Jamie Carragher has really let himself down there... as many have said, banter is part of the game and he gets paid a lot of money to do something that we would all probably do for free!
However, it looks to me like the driver is the one who is doing the filming... while driving... how can he be concentrating on what's happening on the road when he is so focused on filming someone in a car alongside?!!
6 points hopefully.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Anyone can lose it if abused for no reason, and spitting is pretty mild. Give the bloke a break.
If it was America he'd probably pull out a gun and shoot the abuser - and get away with it as 'justifiable homicide.'
So Ray, I don't know if you have or have had kids but would you be pretty relaxed and regard it as mild if someone gobbed all over the face of one of your's?
Oh and why do you keep insisting he was "abused"? There is no evidence i am aware of unless you know more.
Sky will sack him..... HR Director will insist.
Quote from: Twig on March 12, 2018, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Anyone can lose it if abused for no reason, and spitting is pretty mild. Give the bloke a break.
If it was America he'd probably pull out a gun and shoot the abuser - and get away with it as 'justifiable homicide.'
So Ray, I don't know if you have or have had kids but would you be pretty relaxed and regard it as mild if someone gobbed all over the face of one of your's?
Oh and why do you keep insisting he was "abused"? There is no evidence i am aware of unless you know more.
Isn't that why he did it? he lost it because of abusive comments he was getting while stuck in traffic leaving the ground? Or do you think he just goes around spitting at people?
I believe him when he says that he didn't intend to spit at the girl, but was responding to abuse and being filmed by the car's driver, and wasn't even aware that there was a child in the car. If I was in his situation, I think I might do more than just spit, and I think most people would, if they are honest.
Put yourself in his shoes - in your car and stuck in traffic, and getting a load of abuse - then someone insulting you and filming your reaction. If someone did that to me me, I'd want to grab the camera and ram it down their throat.
If I had a child, mine or anyone else's, in my car, I wouldn't go around making abusive comments to people and filming them on my phone. This is parental neglect, as well as dangerous driving.This driver should be prosecuted , if anyone.
I think this case is important because it gives carte-blanch to abuse people in the public eye, and film their reactions to make a buck, and they are just supposed to never react.
It's like players - supposed to take all kinds of dog's abuse from fans, but if they ever react, which they rarely do, they are in trouble. They're only human, after all.
Ray, what abuse did he get from the car he spat at? I heard somthing like 'Alright Jamie, 2 1 eh. ' Was there anything else?
Quote from: Southcoastffc on March 13, 2018, 08:26:49 AM
Ray, what abuse did he get from the car he spat at? I heard somthing like 'Alright Jamie, 2 1 eh. ' Was there anything else?
There is absolutely no evidence that he was abused. That's not to say it didn't happen but the only "evidence" is his claim that it happened.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 13, 2018, 03:54:34 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 12, 2018, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 12, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Anyone can lose it if abused for no reason, and spitting is pretty mild. Give the bloke a break.
If it was America he'd probably pull out a gun and shoot the abuser - and get away with it as 'justifiable homicide.'
So Ray, I don't know if you have or have had kids but would you be pretty relaxed and regard it as mild if someone gobbed all over the face of one of your's?
Oh and why do you keep insisting he was "abused"? There is no evidence i am aware of unless you know more.
Isn't that why he did it? he lost it because of abusive comments he was getting while stuck in traffic leaving the ground? Or do you think he just goes around spitting at people?
I believe him when he says that he didn't intend to spit at the girl, but was responding to abuse and being filmed by the car's driver, and wasn't even aware that there was a child in the car. If I was in his situation, I think I might do more than just spit, and I think most people would, if they are honest.
Put yourself in his shoes - in your car and stuck in traffic, and getting a load of abuse - then someone insulting you and filming your reaction. If someone did that to me me, I'd want to grab the camera and ram it down their throat.
If I had a child, mine or anyone else's, in my car, I wouldn't go around making abusive comments to people and filming them on my phone. This is parental neglect, as well as dangerous driving.This driver should be prosecuted , if anyone.
I think this case is important because it gives carte-blanch to abuse people in the public eye, and film their reactions to make a buck, and they are just supposed to never react.
It's like players - supposed to take all kinds of dog's abuse from fans, but if they ever react, which they rarely do, they are in trouble. They're only human, after all.
Two wrongs don't make a right!
Certain elements seem to think abusing those in the public eye is normal and any common decency doesn't apply, regardless of whether he/she is a 'worthy celebrity' or not they are fair game!
Maybe this driver wasn't abusive but he was crass and it was unnecessary especially with the daughter in the car as he seemed happy to put those around him at risk with his driving, the mans a fool at best and the fact he was prepared to film the event while driving sums him up!
As for Carragher, his oafish behaviour says it all, he can apologies as much as he likes but spitting is disgusting whatever the provocation.
We all know how he could have handled the situation better and you would think someone in the public eye would have learnt how to handle it by now.
Quote from: Statto on March 13, 2018, 09:02:55 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 13, 2018, 03:54:34 AM
I believe him when he says that he didn't intend to spit at the girl, but was responding to abuse and being filmed by the car's driver, and wasn't even aware that there was a child in the car.
The "abuse" on film is lighthearted football banter. I can't think of anything the guy could have said off camera that would have justified Carragher's reaction, but in any case, if you're saying the interaction started some time before the video starts, doesn't that make it less and less likely that Carragher went all that time without noticing the little girl?
(who by the way was about 3 foot in front of him... at eye level... in the direction the abuse was coming from!!!)
if you listen and watch the whole video the driver says something like 'look its Jamie Carragher" and winds window down. He doesn't swear at him just says what we have all said to other fans at times... The scoreline from game.
Jamie's was clearly wound up from previous drivers but to respond like he did was way out of order.
If next time you walk through bishops Park you say to another fan 2-1 we won mate, and he gobs in your face what would be your thoughts then?
Quote from: MJG on March 13, 2018, 09:32:04 AM
If you listen and watch the whole video the driver says something like 'look its Jamie Carragher" and winds window down. He doesn't swear at him just says what we have all said to other fans at times... The scoreline from game.
Jamie's was clearly wound up from previous drivers but to respond like he did was way out of order.
If next time you walk through bishops Park you say to another fan 2-1 we won mate, and he gobs in your face what would be your thoughts then?
Way out of order is an understatement, MJG, but, I guess, it's in the right direction. Spitting is a disgusting and obnoxious thing to do to anyone and just shows up Mr Carragher for what he is. He should be sacked by Sky and the whole incident investigated by the police. As a person who may 'influence' others, especially younger people, he has a special responsibility and he is clearly not up to it.
Whether he saw the girl in the car or not makes no difference whatsoever. He still flemed at someone, which is at the very least grotesque, filthy and disgusting behaviour from an adult who should know better.
He obviously wasn't in the queue when they were handing out the brains. He should have wound his window up, turned the radio up, sticks and stones and all that.
Fancy getting wound up over those remarks, no matter how long he had been enduring it. He could have laughed it off and had a bit of friendly banter, but he allowed himself to get wound up, which is exactly what the guy in the other car wanted, thick as a plank.
If he had been in my Combat Unit when I was in the army, they would have sent him back to his mum and dad, with a label stuck on his forehead saying not fit for purpose. Any one that condones his behaviour is as sick as he is.
I have never ever spat at anyone in my life. No excuse, he just isn't civilised, he made himself look pathetic, and he knows it.
He deserves to be dismissed from a job he was lucky to have in the first place. Sky cannot set a precedent and let him off the hook, he is now a busted flush, and baggage for Sky.
He will never live this down ever, no matter what the future holds for him, he has made himself a target for every wind up merchant he crosses paths with, and his reputation is in tatters, no matter how many times he says sorry.
The Die is cast, the Genie is out of the bottle, the horse has bolted. He will never live this down, every time he wakes up in the morning he will see the image of himself spitting disgusting mucus.
His moral compass and his ethics are lower than a Snakes Belly, and he will have to serve this sentence for the rest of his days, and there will always be someone waiting round the corner ready to remind him.
We all make mistakes, and make errors of judgement on the spur of the moment, but civilised people do not make that kind of error of judgement at any time.
The female Sky Presenter who interviewed him, gave him a very hard time, which he deserved, and she showed her disdain for him in no uncertain terms, she looked as though she didn't want to be in the same room with him, and he had nowhere to hide.
Nothing will ever mend what he did, that's the price he has to pay whether you agree or not.
Sorry but whatever light banter or serious abuse a person is on the end of. He doesn't respond by spitting. If a child did this. it would be disgusting. A grown man who is in the public eye shouldn't either. It shows the calibre of the individual. People lose their temper and swear or ignore whatever was said. But it is dangerous driving and stupid and frankly filthy.
Sorry a ex professional footballer cant take a bit of abuse, how the hell did he play at Old Trafford, Goodison Park as professional player he cant take a bit of stick. What he did was disgusting if he did like what the bloke was saying, smile wind your window back up and carry on. Seriously think the guy has some issues didn't he ring up Adrian Durham and give him a mouth full and offer him out when he had a go at him form retiring from England duty.
But I do hear Bob Carolgess has been in touch
No way should he be sacked for spitting at a car , even though spitting is a foul habit , he should not lose his job over this . A moment of madness, no one was hurt , get over it and move on .
Getting sacked is something that can happen to employees. But if a company representing Mr Carragher has a legally binding agreement with Sky, then what happens next will involve legal discussions between two companies about what the contract says. Could take a little while to resolve, but I'd be surprised to see him on Sky again.
His were the actions of an angry and stressed individual. Why he should be in that state is a mystery.
Quote from: Carborundum on March 13, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
Getting sacked is something that can happen to employees. But if a company representing Mr Carragher has a legally binding agreement with Sky, then what happens next will involve legal discussions between two companies about what the contract says. Could take a little while to resolve, but I'd be surprised to see him on Sky again.
His were the actions of an angry and stressed individual. Why he should be in that state is a mystery.
For sure there may be some activity behind the scenes but if Carragher's action breaches his contract of employment terms and conditions (the usual standards of behaviour required/expected of an employee) then he can be sacked and he can argue all he likes about it in a tribunal.
Just to add to my earlier comment if Carragher had any character worth talking about then he would resign.
Quote from: toshes mate on March 13, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Just to add to my earlier comment if Carragher had any character worth talking about then he would resign.
Agree, if he had any moral compass, and was genuinely sincere, then he would and should have fallen on his sword before now, and should have resigned with immediate effect.
The Sky Presenter Sarah Hewson who gave him a real grilling yesterday when she interviewed him, pulled no punches.
He should have grabbed the opportunity to resign then, but he obviously wasn't THAT sorry, only sorry for himself. Now it will be left to others to make the decision for him I would imagine.
I've just watched the Sarah Hewson interview of Carragher and she most certainly drives home a point that the silly guy doesn't get at all.
Hewson observes, repeatedly, that spitting at anyone is disgusting and Carragher defends, repeatedly, with an apology that every time ends up with the claim that what hurt him most is the presence of a fourteen year old girl that he hadn't seen.. Carragher just doesn't get that spitting is disgusting and for that reason alone he needs a good old fashioned gardening break that'll sharpen up his views of all the things he has to be grateful about. That should diminish all need he feels to keep saying he is sorry. He needs to publicly state that his behaviour was disgusting and inexcusable and was the 'real him' (nobody else but you in the clip, Mr Carragher). He should then resign from his job and work on himself until such time as he is absolutely certain he'll never, ever spit at anyone again. Working on TV or media again shouldn't even be in his head.
He spat at a car , big deal , no one was hurt , why the big outcry for f***ks sake , move on .
He says his rage was focussed on the man. What's he talking about rage, why would he be in a rage over something like that. Rage is defined in the English Oxford Collins Dictionary as .......violent uncontrollable anger.
If he had caught the bloke breaking into his house, or having an affair with his wife, fair enough, anyone would be in a rage.
But If he loses control over that, he needs anger management classes, or see a shrink, he is an overgrown middle aged Yob, and yob backwards spells boy, which makes him a backward boy.
That explains it.
No good him bothering to go down the Job Centre either.
Maybe he can join Keys and Gray on that two bob sports radio show, they deserve each other. They could rename the show, The Three Stooges. Larry, Mo and Curly.
Heat of the battle. It happens. Those who play football know it, those who play sports know, those who are confronted know it. No excuse of course, and spitting can't be tolerated. However, I recently played in an 30+ league last season and realized that heat of the battle amongst former athletes still exists and you just never know. I believe in the concept that you are more than the sum of your past mistakes, and that needs to be considered here. Everyone who has access to the internet wants their own PR and has to feel like they need to stand up for something or if they don't, they'll be marked as someone who doesn't care. Pretty sure that doesn't matter, and you can just move on with your life. Hope all parties involved do the same, as can the public. Apologies are perceived the way they are, and that's all they can be. Not sure what else Carragher can do other than sit out the sentence that has gone over him now.
Quote from: Dr Know on March 13, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
He spat at a car , big deal , no one was hurt , why the big outcry for f***ks sake , move on .
WUM alert.
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Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on March 12, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
Poor conduct by Carragher, but the action lacks context, and the only context do have shows a man shamefully filming and goading Carraghers as he drives his car at speed with his daughter in the passenger seat.
Unfortunately the daughter became collateral, but this was because of the Dads actions. Carragher was not just spitting at cars.
If Carragher is sacked by Sky, fair enough, it was poor conduct. But can we also go after the disgraceful Dad who was more interested in getting a video to send to his mates rather than ensuring the safety of his child.
IMO Carragher's action is utterly reprehensible and he should be taken to task for it according to law (i.e. as is said above, assault) and SKY would be wise to take him off air. In addition, IMO, the father driving while operating a mobile phone should also be punished BUT having just looked at the video footage, the father seems to have no concern that his daughter has been spat at. His tone of voice "Ooooh Jamie Carragher has spat at my daughter, nice" sounds to me - only my opinion - as if he immediately realises that he can get a nice little earner. Doesn't excuse Carragher in any way and there was no what I would call provocation.
Yep both of the male "adults" in thus case need to be punished. The poor girl having such a useless father.
Quote from: Matt10 on March 14, 2018, 01:40:47 AM
Heat of the battle. It happens. Those who play football know it, those who play sports know, those who are confronted know it. No excuse of course, and spitting can't be tolerated. However, I recently played in an 30+ league last season and realized that heat of the battle amongst former athletes still exists and you just never know. I believe in the concept that you are more than the sum of your past mistakes, and that needs to be considered here. Everyone who has access to the internet wants their own PR and has to feel like they need to stand up for something or if they don't, they'll be marked as someone who doesn't care. Pretty sure that doesn't matter, and you can just move on with your life. Hope all parties involved do the same, as can the public. Apologies are perceived the way they are, and that's all they can be. Not sure what else Carragher can do other than sit out the sentence that has gone over him now.
Not exactly a battle was it? He should have kept his window closed and turned up the music. At the weekend I saw someone deal with a road rage idiot very well. The bloke chased their car into a Tesco only for the woman in the car rather than the man to get out and talk to the chaser. I think if the man had got out there would have been a fight but the idiot in the big jeep didn't want to get involved against a woman and drove off. Both drivers in my opinion endangered lives though by racing into the car park.
This whole case is ridiculous.
Carragher lost it because of wind- up banter, and being filmed, but he was probably already wound up by other things said to him, and spat at the car of the man winding him up, and filming him - to do God knows what with the footage, and it happened to hit the young girl in the car's passenger seat.
This is something and nothing, and should be forgotten, instead it's all been exaggerated, and become a major issue, with Carragher probably losing his job, and possible criminal proceedings against both parties.
This is madness.
An opportunity for all the sanctimonious, holier than thou Joes, of which there are currently plenty, to pontificate.
They should just shake hands and forget about it.
Quote from: RaySmith on March 14, 2018, 07:38:26 AM
This whole case is ridiculous.
Okay, RaySmith, you have convinced me. Spit Happens......
Not only dangerous driving but anybody spitting in public at anything should be fined. No wonder illness and germs spread so easily. For those that think this is fine and spitting is just one of those things. I find myself content in the knowledge that I have less time to live in this filthy world than I have spent here. If spitting is ok you are welcome to it. But then peeing in public might be just up your street to.
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 14, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
Not only dangerous driving but anybody spitting in public at anything should be fined. No wonder illness and germs spread so easily. For those that think this is fine and spitting is just one of those things. I find myself content in the knowledge that I have less time to live in this filthy world than I have spent here. If spitting is ok you are welcome to it. But then peeing in public might be just up your street to.
Funny you should say that. In yesterday's Times Matt Dickinson wrote "Jamie Carragher once peed on my feet. We were sitting around a table in a bar in Malaysia on an England Under-20 tour and, as he slurred at the time, he had had quite a few and it was a long way to the toilet. Among a lairy crew on that trip — Kieron Dyer revealed recently in his autobiography that the squad took turns to crap in a carrier bag that was hung on the hotel door of the coach, Ted Powell — Carragher was certainly not a boy scout." Dickinson does go onto argue that Carragher should be repriomanded but not severely.
It has been reported that Carragher is suspended by Sky for the rest of this season to seek help with his issues, and will be seen by Sky officials prior to the start of next season to satisfy themselves that the incident or similar will not be repeated.
Quote from: toshes mate on March 13, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Just to add to my earlier comment if Carragher had any character worth talking about then he would resign.
He is a Scouser and we all know they can't even spell character!!
Quote from: toshes mate on March 14, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on March 14, 2018, 07:38:26 AM
This whole case is ridiculous.
Okay, RaySmith, you have convinced me. Spit Happens......
It's a tough one to swallow
Quote from: Southcoastffc on March 14, 2018, 12:42:07 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 14, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
Not only dangerous driving but anybody spitting in public at anything should be fined. No wonder illness and germs spread so easily. For those that think this is fine and spitting is just one of those things. I find myself content in the knowledge that I have less time to live in this filthy world than I have spent here. If spitting is ok you are welcome to it. But then peeing in public might be just up your street to.
Funny you should say that. In yesterday's Times Matt Dickinson wrote "Jamie Carragher once peed on my feet. We were sitting around a table in a bar in Malaysia on an England Under-20 tour and, as he slurred at the time, he had had quite a few and it was a long way to the toilet. Among a lairy crew on that trip — Kieron Dyer revealed recently in his autobiography that the squad took turns to crap in a carrier bag that was hung on the hotel door of the coach, Ted Powell — Carragher was certainly not a boy scout." Dickinson does go onto argue that Carragher should be repriomanded but not severely.
Yuck :016:
Quote from: toshes mate on March 13, 2018, 02:03:47 PM
Just to add to my earlier comment if Carragher had any character worth talking about then he would resign.
:plus one:
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Apparently he is taking his wife out for a spit roast tonight.
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Quote from: bog on March 14, 2018, 03:20:36 PM
Apparently he is taking his wife out for a spit roast tonight.
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In a Spitfire.
Quote from: toshes mate on March 14, 2018, 01:15:42 PM
It has been reported that Carragher is suspended by Sky for the rest of this season to seek help with his issues, and will be seen by Sky officials prior to the start of next season to satisfy themselves that the incident or similar will not be repeated.
Unfortunately he has set himself up for any toerag to have a go at him to wind him up. He should have just smiled and waved and drove on.
Quote from: cookieg on March 14, 2018, 03:43:10 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on March 14, 2018, 01:15:42 PM
It has been reported that Carragher is suspended by Sky for the rest of this season to seek help with his issues, and will be seen by Sky officials prior to the start of next season to satisfy themselves that the incident or similar will not be repeated.
Unfortunately he has set himself up for any toerag to have a go at him to wind him up. He should have just smiled and waved and drove on.
He will never live it down, he will be constantly reminded about it. It's like a Tatoo, he is stuck with it for life.
Lets not forget that in 2008, he tried to climb into Luton's stand to fight a couple of their fans who were giving him a bit of banter during the warm down after the game.
Sounds a real Salt of the earth, leopards don't change their spots.
He showed his true colours last Sunday, that was no one off. That's the real him, and he got caught red handed, he has no class.
