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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Litrecola_ on March 13, 2018, 02:33:35 AM

Title: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Litrecola_ on March 13, 2018, 02:33:35 AM
Would you say Sess, TC, Fredericks and Slavisa are all gone?
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Ron91 on March 13, 2018, 03:02:42 AM
I believe it could be make or break!
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: hovewhite on March 13, 2018, 04:20:29 AM
Not sure if slav would leave,probably the players mentioned would I think.Plus it would need a rebiuld of the team,but if slav had imput like the last window then think he would stay.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: berba on March 13, 2018, 04:50:57 AM
Leave these old "what if " sayings, because if you stick to them, you cannot enjoy the jorney. Imagine that you have put on wedding clothes that you are cheerful and merry. If you can visualise such a picture, you will be immediately refreshed, you will be ready to fight your hardships in this world, and the vibrations of your mind will be higher. This visualisation of the picture has also a healthy impact.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: New Kid on the Block on March 13, 2018, 05:32:45 AM
I don't think it will necessarily happen. After all the background shenanigans at the start of the season, I think the team will stay together for one last push for promotion. They would hope for the status quo to remain, which would allow for a good pre-season, and then they could hit the ground running from day 1.

Everything appears to be smooth and calm atm, so the team can concentrate on doing their job properly.No distractions should mean we don't drop silly points up to Christmas.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Fernhurst on March 13, 2018, 06:49:50 AM
Would you say Sess, TC, Fredericks and Slavisa are all gone?



Yes and lonees returned.
Mid table at best next season.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: davew on March 13, 2018, 07:29:37 AM
It will be devastating to all concerned and the start of a dark era, can't imagine that we would be able to challenge for the play offs again next season, as Fernhurst says mid table finish at best.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on March 13, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
Would you say Sess, TC, Fredericks and Slavisa are all gone?



Yes and lonees returned.
Mid table at best next season.

Wow, you're fun.

Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: gezkc on March 13, 2018, 08:52:44 AM
As my dad used to say, "If was never in a true story".
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: MJG on March 13, 2018, 08:55:59 AM
If it happens it happens and we rebuild and start again. We have a number of players on long contracts we can keep. Good youngsters coming through and cash from the sales if they happen.
It would not be the end of the world as some of you view it. A lit of these same comments were made last season and look how things worked out.
It will be hard no doubt and we would start the season with minus £10m compared to this season as no more parachute payments.
But let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Statto on March 13, 2018, 09:08:42 AM
It will be hard no doubt and we would start the season with minus £10m compared to this season as no more parachute payments.

I'm assuming we had/have money in reserve this year, largely given the big bid for gayle (confirmed to the FST) that didn't come off

Also in this nightmare scenario of Sess and TC going I assume we'd get a minimum of £30m for the pair

As you've said beforee can recycle the old loans with new loans

My concern isn't the economics but more about losing what you might call the "intellectual property"... Jokanovic, his coaching staff and their knowledge, and players he's spent months and months teaching to play his way
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: BedsFFC on March 13, 2018, 09:19:55 AM
I'm of the opinion that Ryan Sessegnon will get Fulham into the Premiership. One way or another by the end of next season.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Ged on March 13, 2018, 09:26:32 AM
Leave these old "what if " sayings, because if you stick to them, you cannot enjoy the jorney. Imagine that you have put on wedding clothes that you are cheerful and merry. If you can visualise such a picture, you will be immediately refreshed, you will be ready to fight your hardships in this world, and the vibrations of your mind will be higher. This visualisation of the picture has also a healthy impact.
Try telling that to Miss Havisham
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: MJG on March 13, 2018, 09:28:02 AM
It will be hard no doubt and we would start the season with minus £10m compared to this season as no more parachute payments.

I'm assuming we had/have money in reserve this year, largely given the big bid for gayle (confirmed to the FST) that didn't come off

Also in this nightmare scenario of Sess and TC going I assume we'd get a minimum of £30m for the pair

As you've said beforee can recycle the old loans with new loans

My concern isn't the economics but more about losing what you might call the "intellectual property"... Jokanovic, his coaching staff and their knowledge, and players he's spent months and months teaching to play his way
just based on pure income no more parachute money. Yes you can move things around and I do mention sales. But to even get to an even figure with this year we need to raise 10m somewhere.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: BedsFFC on March 13, 2018, 09:29:52 AM
It will be devastating to all concerned and the start of a dark era

Blimey Dave, even by your standards this is it a bit early. 

Some of us are a cup half full or cup half empty. You don't even have a cup.  :dft012:

If we don't go up. I'd say the chances are about 3/1we will go up,  then we have a huge asset in young Ryan. It would be incredibly sad to let him go but he will go eventually. If we don't go up, he will have to be sold. Those funds should almost guarantee promotion.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: toshes mate on March 13, 2018, 09:36:56 AM
In all the summaries I read about what may or may not be, I tend towards feeling empathy with those who say it's a challenge just like any other experience we are ever going to endure if we simply just refuse to enjoy it.  When Jokanovic first arrived at Fulham you could just about be forgiven for asking what the fuss was all about, but slowly and very surely his professionalism and the professionalism of those who reported to him has repaired, improved, moulded, manipulated and finished many damages and flaws in Fulham's performance structure.  This team has given us gems, even some seemingly hopelessly flawed, polished to at least show us what gems look like and what can be done with just about any player who is not beyond hope.   Lose Jokanovic and his team and we have a much more difficult challenge, one that will be laced with trepidation given the Club's track record with coaches in the Khan era, but still a journey that we supporters will go on because we always do.  Retain Jokanovic and we will know he and his team deliver to the best of their ability.   One small encouragement was the last transfer window which for the first time under Khan did not disappoint.  If that was down to the absence of a 'K' then there is more to look forward to than there may have been were he still here.

We still have a season to play out and I am pretty sure that if we are promoted there'll be some surprises during the transfer window, just as there'll be surprises if we are not.  The 'what if' to really ask is what if you are someone who'd never go near a roller-coaster ride? 
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Southcoastffc on March 13, 2018, 09:55:06 AM
If (what a lovely and easy word that is) I were Khan senior or junior, at this stage of the season I'd look at Brighton who narrowly missed promotion for several years and then pretty much stormed it last year.   So, as my avatar says, stay panic, don't calm!  092.gif
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Jimpav on March 13, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
I'm not normally so optomistic, but with the form we have been in recently, it's hard to see us losing to any team over 2 legs.


Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: davew on March 13, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
It will be devastating to all concerned and the start of a dark era

Blimey Dave, even by your standards this is it a bit early. 

Some of us are a cup half full or cup half empty. You don't even have a cup.  :dft012:

If we don't go up. I'd say the chances are about 3/1we will go up,  then we have a huge asset in young Ryan. It would be incredibly sad to let him go but he will go eventually. If we don't go up, he will have to be sold. Those funds should almost guarantee promotion.
(LOL), might not have a cup, but got plenty of glasses which are always half full or half empty, normally half empty. On the wild assumption that we don't get promoted, my point was really about whether the players that remain from the present squad would be able to raise their motivation level to the same as this season. I think it is generally agreed that many of the present squad would not stay at Fulham and yes I am including loanees as well as our 2 star players, if that is the case there will be a large hole in the squad to fill and of course just as importantly would Joka remain? I believe we had a better chance in the play offs last season than the current one, whoever we are drawn against it will be really tough to progress to the final.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: cmg on March 13, 2018, 03:05:10 PM
Leave these old "what if " sayings, because if you stick to them, you cannot enjoy the jorney. Imagine that you have put on wedding clothes that you are cheerful and merry. If you can visualise such a picture, you will be immediately refreshed, you will be ready to fight your hardships in this world, and the vibrations of your mind will be higher. This visualisation of the picture has also a healthy impact.
Try telling that to Miss Havisham

Well she did have something in common with Mitro.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Fernhurst on March 13, 2018, 03:21:36 PM
A rebuild if we are promoted would be so much more exciting than another year in the Championship rebuild.

I will always remember how I felt when my team (Yes my team!!!) signed Edwin Van de Sar.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: filham on March 13, 2018, 03:46:26 PM
Would you say Sess, TC, Fredericks and Slavisa are all gone?

Cairney, Fredericks and McDonald would all be looking for premiership football, Jocanovic would jump as soon as a better offer came in, Norewood, Ojo, Piazon, Piazon, Kalas, and Mitrovic would instantly return to their parent clubs.

Sess. may just stay for another season's first team football but then we may decide we need the big fat transfer fee to provide the cash to build a new team.

A another promotion opportunity will not come round quickly, essential that we make the best of this one.

At the same time the club should have contingincy plans in place for another season in the championship and the priority has to be to ensure that Jocanovic's contracct is watertight so that it is not easy for the likes of Arsenal to snatch him away just before the start of the season.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 13, 2018, 11:47:28 PM
This season is the best chance Fulham FC will have for a while. It has to be this season, as I dread to think what the alternative will be if Fulham FC miss out this year.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: RaySmith on March 14, 2018, 12:12:33 AM
Slav will only stay if he thinks he can finish the job, and get us promoted.

If he wants to accept one of the offers he is bound to get,  we won't be able to stop him, nor would  we want him  to stay if his heart was no longer in it.

But maybe  our manager and most of our top players, combined with  youngsters coming through, will stay together for another push at promotion.

Slav is a realist, and  he knows that we may not make it this year, but obviously he and the players really want promotion, but he must have plans in his own mind about what he will do next season if we don't go up, though I suppose that depends upon what offers he  gets.

At present though, he hasn't actually achieved much with Fulham, apart from a play-off place, and potentially another, so I'm sure he'd like to finish off what he's started.

One game at a time - means he and the team are focussing on the moment, and it's still all to play for. 049:gif
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: itombomb on March 14, 2018, 12:44:11 AM
If Sess, Cairney & Fred go we'll get a lot of money for them, we're probably talking north of 50mil, more if we also offload the likes of Fonte. That allows for a rebuild with quality.

If I'm Slav and I'm told I can spend that money, I reckon the security at Fulham is probably very tempting compared to the basket case nature of the likes of West Ham/Southampton/Watford.
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: rogerpnowinFlorida on March 14, 2018, 01:11:39 AM
I would have prefered the OP (after only 3 posts) to have said "If WE don't get promoted"

WE, not Fulham
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Forever Fulham on March 15, 2018, 02:40:46 AM
This team has gotten noticed by those in need at certain positions.  I'm sure of it.  If we don't go up this time, we'll get pilfered.  Maybe Joka can pull off the amazing with no K around, can rebuild with great new finds, get them to gel early into next season and pile up wins.  Maybe.  He must have ambitions of his own.  The EPL perhaps.    We have to do it this time.  The players are clearly up for it.  They play like this is their big opportunity.  They are going for it.  All in.  No quit in them.  The next few games should be electrifying. 
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on March 15, 2018, 06:44:24 AM
The current team is a promotion outfit, and so far are producing the goods. If anyone can do it as the Coach/ Manager, Slavisa currently can. No matter how good a team is playing, it can always do with a helping hand, like being injury free, the rub of the green, a contentious refereeing decision, a worldy goal, or an opponents dreadful mistake or own goal.
I would rather be lucky than unlucky. ⚽️⚽️
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Andy S on March 15, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
Stop being so pessimistic! The parachute payments are supposed to help even things out after relegation as clubs will be left with a lot of players on high wages. Those players have gone now so the need is not as great. The effect will be minimal. Yes we could lose players and yes we will bring in some new faces but doesn't that happen every season. The future is unknown and yesterday has gone so just enjoy the now
Title: Re: If Fulham don't get promoted
Post by: Buffalo76 on March 15, 2018, 08:46:40 AM
If it happens it happens and we rebuild and start again. We have a number of players on long contracts we can keep. Good youngsters coming through and cash from the sales if they happen.
It would not be the end of the world as some of you view it. A lit of these same comments were made last season and look how things worked out.
It will be hard no doubt and we would start the season with minus £10m compared to this season as no more parachute payments.
But let's hope it doesn't come to that.



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