In his interview with Getwestlondon SJ explains his decision to sub Kebano. "I need players ready to die on the pitch. I need more effort,........l". That sounds like a pretty direct swipe at Kebano which surprises me because I thought he was putting in a decent shift after coming on.
It does sound like SJ just doesn't feel Kebano fits in with his requirements. A shame but on that basis I can see him Kebano leaving this summer, promotion or no promotion.
The explanation of the sub is as big a mystery as the event itself. I still believe that one decision cost us the game. In the same way as most of the other decisions by the coach has taken us to 21 games unbeaten. Kebano adds something we just don't have and I thought when he was on he chased down clearances and made Brentford retreat. When he went we were just hanging on as the ball just coming back. But when our coach takes a disliking to a player that seems to be it.
A strange explanation as I thought we were more in command & the more likely to score a 2nd when Kebano was on.
A manager will be looking at what if scenarios throughout play. These will be planned out in advance in a lot of detail.
As fans, we don't know what these are. Our view is about as basic as it get's.
One observation I made before is that Brentford were clearly planning their attacks to start at the point we had the ball. It was how they exploit things when we lose possession. I was quite impressed with them at how they did this.
Clearly, our coaches were aware of this and were looking two steps ahead in terms of us having, then losing possession and how we would react when this would happen. To really combat Brentford, we needed to ensure that when we lost possession, we are ready and react quickly and fight to get the ball back. Brentford were exposing the advanced full backs when they regained possession. I think this is why Slavisa prefers Ayite as he offers more protection.
I get the feeling that Kebano (and I love the guy) is a touch one-dimensional in terms of his understanding of the play, especially when we are on the attack.
He is the sort of player that fans love but coaches see him not doing his job way up the field. A chance the other end can be 30 seconds or more from his lack of guile or fight and as a fan, we would never think to blame him for an effort against us. But the manager does. And that can seem unfair to us.
Going back not that long ago our defence took a lot of stick. Ream used to take a lot of flak for looking all at sea. I always felt at the time that our midfield were responsible for much of that
21 games unbeaten so I think theat Slav has earned the right to manage as he sees fit so if he subs a sub then I don't have a problem
I do believe the current automatic choice of team (which currently does not include a settled right midfield winger) rather limited things on Saturday and I don't think sub Kebano's substitution indicated anything other than his replacement of Piazon didn't 'solve' the problems we were experiencing because our opponents were winning almost all the fifty-fifties and a lot else beside. Even the left flank was less secure than it has been since Targett's arrival. Even our midfield was creaking under the pressure of being driven backwards. And so where do you change things if changing involves taking off the players who have proven reliable match winners on numerous occasions. I thought there were just too many problems to hope one player could turn it around when a whole half time talk had failed to solve things. Hopefully that performance is out of our system and we will come back from this 'depression' in a manner more befitting of a team on an incredible unbeaten run.
I wouldn't read anything more into Kebano's substitution other than an admission we were not the better side when, on paper and form, we should have been.
Quote from: KJS on April 16, 2018, 11:26:06 AM
21 games unbeaten so I think theat Slav has earned the right to manage as he sees fit so if he subs a sub then I don't have a problem
+1
So, back to Fonte then :)
But the fans clearly see Kebano as an important, impact sub.
Just in case everyone is second guessing ourselves... the Reading fans agreed on their forum that he was an absolute menace when he came on!
It makes a lot of sense now that SJ just doesn't like him as there was no real reason for the 2 month baron spell either. I wonder what's gone on behind the scenes?
I look at it far more simply, he wanted to change the attack, he brings on Kebano, we score. The game is nearing its end Brentford are going for it. He wants us to be tighter at the back to defend the lead, and at the same time use up some time. He subs an attacker for a defender and the player that's furthest away. I think it was that simple.
Quote from: snarks on April 16, 2018, 12:21:57 PM
I look at it far more simply, he wanted to change the attack, he brings on Kebano, we score. The game is nearing its end Brentford are going for it. He wants us to be tighter at the back to defend the lead, and at the same time use up some time. He subs an attacker for a defender and the player that's furthest away. I think it was that simple.
Exactly and very poor tactics if true. Trying to defend from the back is always far harder than trying to defend from the front with a willing runner chasing down clearances. My view is that Joka asked them to score and they did.
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 16, 2018, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: snarks on April 16, 2018, 12:21:57 PM
I look at it far more simply, he wanted to change the attack, he brings on Kebano, we score. The game is nearing its end Brentford are going for it. He wants us to be tighter at the back to defend the lead, and at the same time use up some time. He subs an attacker for a defender and the player that's furthest away. I think it was that simple.
Exactly and very poor tactics if true. Trying to defend from the back is always far harder than trying to defend from the front with a willing runner chasing down clearances. My view is that Joka asked them to score and they did.
Yes, but the sub happened in the 80+ minute when Brentford were overloading one side of the pitch. They no longer kept their fullbacks to the defensive third, they were constantly in a state of advancement. What was the coach supposed to do? Let Fredericks mark 2-3 players at once? You can't defend from the front if you have noone to defend.
Quote from: Matt10 on April 16, 2018, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 16, 2018, 12:28:49 PM
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I look at it far more simply, he wanted to change the attack, he brings on Kebano, we score. The game is nearing its end Brentford are going for it. He wants us to be tighter at the back to defend the lead, and at the same time use up some time. He subs an attacker for a defender and the player that's furthest away. I think it was that simple.
Exactly and very poor tactics if true. Trying to defend from the back is always far harder than trying to defend from the front with a willing runner chasing down clearances. My view is that Joka asked them to score and they did.
Yes, but the sub happened in the 80+ minute when Brentford were overloading one side of the pitch. They no longer kept their fullbacks to the defensive third, they were constantly in a state of advancement. What was the coach supposed to do? Let Fredericks mark 2-3 players at once? You can't defend from the front if you have noone to defend.
His solution to bring Christie on especially playing an advanced role as he did, hardly helped the situation. The panic clearances and the fact that we seemed to lose shape either through being overly tired or poorly prepared. Didn't make it a good time to try and just wait to be bombarded by crosses. Fine to defend deep but that wasn't what happened.
I think the fans will always have the advantage because the fans can reflect based on the outcome. The coach doesn't have this luxury because they are the ones who actually have to make the decision. That's why it's not an even level playing field in terms of discussion. Fans can't separate their feelings from the decision making of what actually is ongoing on the pitch. Beds explained it perfectly in his remark. If you see the cutscenes of the Slav and his assistants, they were constantly pointing out who needed to get up the pitch, and who was lagging behind. Slav constantly motioned for the team to get up, and I believe it was because our usual high line was falling further and further back due to the pressure of their advancing fullbacks. On the right hand side, Cairney, Kebano and Fredericks could only do so much - and our captain was tiring defensively. By placing Christie in for Kebano, we now have fresh legs to start the attack and use TC as an outlet, and then fresh legs to chase down their advancing full backs, so that Fredericks can tuck in and mark the forwards central.
I already pointed it out in another thread, but Fredericks didn't tuck in and follow Maupay, but instead let him run past - which led to the goal. So for those who believe the sub decision was the reason for the goal - you need to watch the match again.
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Fredericks motioned to Christie to communicate staying goal-side so the through ball wouldn't happen to their FB, but he did not follow Maupay's run behind him. Odoi and Ream were left to mark 3 men (Ream actually had 2 at one point), which resulted in the overload. They managed to get our 2 centerbacks out of sorts by overloading one side, which pulled Odoi to not be able to cover Fredericks' back, and Fredericks did not mark anyone, and didn't drop back when the ball was sent in either. That combination of events is why the chance, and goal, occurred.
I'm a big fan of Fredericks, but it's just that simple, he didn't follow his man, or anyone, and it cost us a goal. That's not making a case for the blame game, I think we do way too much of that on here, but it's more so to point exactly to what resulted in a conceded goal from the mere fact of football. Nothing more, nothing less.
In terms of why Kebano, I think that just serves as more fuel to the fire because being subbed as a sub is not a high point in any professional's career. The fact that it happened to Kebano, who we all love, just leaves a sour taste. I was just as confused at the time, but when I watched how Christie provided cover for Fredericks, it made sense. Just how Kebano gets our sympathy, Christie becomes a target for criticism by association of the event. Sad to see, but not surprising as we as fans will have the luxury of the outcome in our favor towards discussion and questioning.
Quote from: Matt10 on April 16, 2018, 12:53:26 PM
I think the fans will always have the advantage because the fans can reflect based on the outcome. The coach doesn't have this luxury because they are the ones who actually have to make the decision. That's why it's not an even level playing field in terms of discussion. Fans can't separate their feelings from the decision making of what actually is ongoing on the pitch. Beds explained it perfectly in his remark. If you see the cutscenes of the Slav and his assistants, they were constantly pointing out who needed to get up the pitch, and who was lagging behind. Slav constantly motioned for the team to get up, and I believe it was because our usual high line was falling further and further back due to the pressure of their advancing fullbacks. On the right hand side, Cairney, Kebano and Fredericks could only do so much - and our captain was tiring defensively. By placing Christie in for Kebano, we now have fresh legs to start the attack and use TC as an outlet, and then fresh legs to chase down their advancing full backs, so that Fredericks can tuck in and mark the forwards central.
I already pointed it out in another thread, but Fredericks didn't tuck in and follow Maupay, but instead let him run past - which led to the goal. So for those who believe the sub decision was the reason for the goal - you need to watch the match again.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3641/KkyTa5.png)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7439/kjkJMo.png)
Fredericks motioned to Christie to communicate staying goal-side so the through ball wouldn't happen to their FB, but he did not follow Maupay's run behind him. Odoi and Ream were left to mark 3 men (Ream actually had 2 at one point), which resulted in the overload. They managed to get our 2 centerbacks out of sorts by overloading one side, which pulled Odoi to not be able to cover Fredericks' back, and Fredericks did not mark anyone, and didn't drop back when the ball was sent in either. That combination of events is why the chance, and goal, occurred.
I'm a big fan of Fredericks, but it's just that simple, he didn't follow his man, or anyone, and it cost us a goal. That's not making a case for the blame game, I think we do way too much of that on here, but it's more so to point exactly to what resulted in a conceded goal from the mere fact of football. Nothing more, nothing less.
In terms of why Kebano, I think that just serves as more fuel to the fire because being subbed as a sub is not a high point in any professional's career. The fact that it happened to Kebano, who we all love, just leaves a sour taste. I was just as confused at the time, but when I watched how Christie provided cover for Fredericks, it made sense. Just how Kebano gets our sympathy, Christie becomes a target for criticism by association of the event. Sad to see, but not surprising as we as fans will have the luxury of the outcome in our favor towards discussion and questioning.
Matt, do you ever go on Cottage Talk? You should. I'd love to hear your thoughts in person. I have a decent understanding of the game as I've coached a fair bit. You clearly are a level ahead of me and it's interesting
The discussion is all interesting and very well articulated. I just wanted to point out that in my OP i wasn't questioning SJ's decision to sub Kebano (that is a different issue), I was however disappointed with his explanation it getwestlondon. It is a clear implied criticism of Kebano that I was very sorry to read.
Without wanting to sound sycophantic - I would totally endorse your comments re Matt10 -BedsFFC. His view is always incisive and balanced.
I think Kebano keeps misfiring. He is quick and can control the ball but does not track back much or pass the ball enough.
A bit like Stef-Jo, he keeps taking silly shots on goal and not doing the intelligent thing of cutting back and passing. The difference is that Stef-Jo has enough wins (I.e.goal in last match, sweet pass to Mitro in this one).
Fredricks was ball watching for the goal and let his man (who scored) go .
Quote from: Matt10 on April 16, 2018, 12:53:26 PM
I think the fans will always have the advantage because the fans can reflect based on the outcome. The coach doesn't have this luxury because they are the ones who actually have to make the decision. That's why it's not an even level playing field in terms of discussion. Fans can't separate their feelings from the decision making of what actually is ongoing on the pitch. Beds explained it perfectly in his remark. If you see the cutscenes of the Slav and his assistants, they were constantly pointing out who needed to get up the pitch, and who was lagging behind. Slav constantly motioned for the team to get up, and I believe it was because our usual high line was falling further and further back due to the pressure of their advancing fullbacks. On the right hand side, Cairney, Kebano and Fredericks could only do so much - and our captain was tiring defensively. By placing Christie in for Kebano, we now have fresh legs to start the attack and use TC as an outlet, and then fresh legs to chase down their advancing full backs, so that Fredericks can tuck in and mark the forwards central.
I already pointed it out in another thread, but Fredericks didn't tuck in and follow Maupay, but instead let him run past - which led to the goal. So for those who believe the sub decision was the reason for the goal - you need to watch the match again.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3641/KkyTa5.png)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7439/kjkJMo.png)
Fredericks motioned to Christie to communicate staying goal-side so the through ball wouldn't happen to their FB, but he did not follow Maupay's run behind him. Odoi and Ream were left to mark 3 men (Ream actually had 2 at one point), which resulted in the overload. They managed to get our 2 centerbacks out of sorts by overloading one side, which pulled Odoi to not be able to cover Fredericks' back, and Fredericks did not mark anyone, and didn't drop back when the ball was sent in either. That combination of events is why the chance, and goal, occurred.
I'm a big fan of Fredericks, but it's just that simple, he didn't follow his man, or anyone, and it cost us a goal. That's not making a case for the blame game, I think we do way too much of that on here, but it's more so to point exactly to what resulted in a conceded goal from the mere fact of football. Nothing more, nothing less.
In terms of why Kebano, I think that just serves as more fuel to the fire because being subbed as a sub is not a high point in any professional's career. The fact that it happened to Kebano, who we all love, just leaves a sour taste. I was just as confused at the time, but when I watched how Christie provided cover for Fredericks, it made sense. Just how Kebano gets our sympathy, Christie becomes a target for criticism by association of the event. Sad to see, but not surprising as we as fans will have the luxury of the outcome in our favor towards discussion and questioning.
what a great post! perfect and i totally agree
Quote from: Matt10 on April 16, 2018, 12:53:26 PM
I think the fans will always have the advantage because the fans can reflect based on the outcome. The coach doesn't have this luxury because they are the ones who actually have to make the decision. That's why it's not an even level playing field in terms of discussion. Fans can't separate their feelings from the decision making of what actually is ongoing on the pitch. Beds explained it perfectly in his remark. If you see the cutscenes of the Slav and his assistants, they were constantly pointing out who needed to get up the pitch, and who was lagging behind. Slav constantly motioned for the team to get up, and I believe it was because our usual high line was falling further and further back due to the pressure of their advancing fullbacks. On the right hand side, Cairney, Kebano and Fredericks could only do so much - and our captain was tiring defensively. By placing Christie in for Kebano, we now have fresh legs to start the attack and use TC as an outlet, and then fresh legs to chase down their advancing full backs, so that Fredericks can tuck in and mark the forwards central.
I already pointed it out in another thread, but Fredericks didn't tuck in and follow Maupay, but instead let him run past - which led to the goal. So for those who believe the sub decision was the reason for the goal - you need to watch the match again.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/3641/KkyTa5.png)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img923/7439/kjkJMo.png)
Fredericks motioned to Christie to communicate staying goal-side so the through ball wouldn't happen to their FB, but he did not follow Maupay's run behind him. Odoi and Ream were left to mark 3 men (Ream actually had 2 at one point), which resulted in the overload. They managed to get our 2 centerbacks out of sorts by overloading one side, which pulled Odoi to not be able to cover Fredericks' back, and Fredericks did not mark anyone, and didn't drop back when the ball was sent in either. That combination of events is why the chance, and goal, occurred.
I'm a big fan of Fredericks, but it's just that simple, he didn't follow his man, or anyone, and it cost us a goal. That's not making a case for the blame game, I think we do way too much of that on here, but it's more so to point exactly to what resulted in a conceded goal from the mere fact of football. Nothing more, nothing less.
In terms of why Kebano, I think that just serves as more fuel to the fire because being subbed as a sub is not a high point in any professional's career. The fact that it happened to Kebano, who we all love, just leaves a sour taste. I was just as confused at the time, but when I watched how Christie provided cover for Fredericks, it made sense. Just how Kebano gets our sympathy, Christie becomes a target for criticism by association of the event. Sad to see, but not surprising as we as fans will have the luxury of the outcome in our favor towards discussion and questioning.
In my "Analysing the goal" thread I made the same point.
Your summary is however that the substitution didn't cause the goal, but Fredericks did.
In my thread I suggest that the substitution could have equally led to the positioning confusion and the lack of defined roles. That Fredericks and Christie were not well drilled in this tactical substitution.
So I guess the cause of the goal is either the coaching staff for not having coached this flat back 5 into the players enough... or Freds just for switching off (which we can surely forgive given his performances this season!). We won't know without knowing what goes on on the training pitch.
Fredericks has always had an issue with mental and physical tiredness since he joined.
He has massivly improved on the physical side but mentally he does switch off.
I sit in H stand in the JH stand so most of the time he is in front of me second half of games. And you can see him losing it in the last 10 minutes of almost everygame. Its just a weakness he has and you have to accept thats the way it is with the lad.
Quote from: Statto on April 16, 2018, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 16, 2018, 12:28:49 PM
Trying to defend from the back is always far harder than trying to defend from the front
I think that is a massive misconception. When you are knackered with 5 minutes left you don't have the energy to counterattack. it sounds like a good idea but in reality what always happens in those situations, even with the most successful teams, is they get 11 bodies behind the ball just throwing themselves in front of anything heading towards the goals. if it were as simple as you make out no team would ever bring an extra defender on or drop deep at the end of a game
But that is my point. We didn't put 11 players behind the ball. They looked disorganised with great gaps in the defence. The photos of the equaliser rather shows that. We have three against three in the middle and two out wide marking nobody and one on the wing rushing back. My point is that being disorganised and having no out ball was the reason we lost the goal. At least the out ball gave us a bit more time when Neeskens was on the pitch.
Quote from: MJG on April 16, 2018, 07:09:21 PM
Fredericks has always had an issue with mental and physical tiredness since he joined.
He has massivly improved on the physical side but mentally he does switch off.
I sit in H stand in the JH stand so most of the time he is in front of me second half of games. And you can see him losing it in the last 10 minutes of almost everygame. Its just a weakness he has and you have to accept thats the way it is with the lad.
Yes, now that you mention it, I reckon you have explained that about as close as you can get. As you say it's just the way he is made, and we have to take him as a package.
All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
Quote from: hovewhite on April 16, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
I am a little confused about the Neeskins Kebano, substitution, and the ongoing debate. Not that it takes much to confuse me.
Was the reason he was taken off, was because he did not follow the managers instructions, or was there another reason that I have overlooked. Because I am a Neeskins fan, and there appears to be an issue between him and Jok which has resulted in him slipping down the pecking order.
Quote from: hovewhite on April 16, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
Disagree completely. If Kebano isn't a different option to Piazon I don't know what is.
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Quote from: hovewhite on April 16, 2018, 07:32:04 PM
All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
Disagree completely. If Kebano isn't a different option to Piazon I don't know what is.
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All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
Disagree completely. If Kebano isn't a different option to Piazon I don't know what is.
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He can be a different option and I like kebano and on this game he didn't make an improvement on piazon and as mentioned piazon defensively is a stronger player and also by the way ayite if fit would have been on ahead of kebano as he always offers better options and seems trusted by slav.
Fredricks has no excuse ,he was caught ball watching,and let his man go. He has improved enormously in this department but his lapse cost us on the Day.
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All this, neeskins didn't make a different option so take him off,n big deal.
Disagree completely. If Kebano isn't a different option to Piazon I don't know what is.
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He can be a different option and I like kebano and on this game he didn't make an improvement on piazon and as mentioned piazon defensively is a stronger player and also by the way ayite if fit would have been on ahead of kebano as he always offers better options and seems trusted by slav.
"He didn't make an improvement"
Using Slavs broken english phrases is great commitment to the playoff push but does make reading posts a bit tough. :dft012:
I was OK with Kebano coming on, OK with him coming off to be replaced by a more defensive player. SJ's remarks, having publicly hauled him off were unnecessary and ignored one of the basic rules of managing people: praise in public, criticise in private.
Lots on here backing Slav, me too in most cases, but he's human just like us and I'm convinced he made a mistake subbing NK .
I thought so at the time it happened and I was proved right.
On another occasion I could be very wrong though.
As I said he's human.
I have just watched the game for the first time on tv and have reflected some of,my thoughts in my post about Cairney.
Slav is a great coach and we all love him for his football and what he has bought to Fulham. On Saturday I thought Smith out coached him. Smith played a player wide on each wing, both caused problems all game but also allowed space in the middle defensive for Woods to dominate and spread play. Our 3 narrow midfield players were thus less influential as the play was stretched. When we got our intricate short passing going, we looked very good, but this did not happen as much as normal.
Piazon who is also very good at the short intricate passing game did not have his best game again, he has never since we signed him been in my starting 11 and dispite being an excellent club player can be a bit of a weak link. Kebano substitution was entirely predictable and I thought he did ok, however he was not as good as some people are making out. We got the goal and then we're looking to keep another clean sheet. I thought at that point we allowed the game to become even more open, we should have tried to control the ball more and been more solid at the back. I thought at the time, the subbing of Kebano for Christie was fine and I understood why Slav did it, I have not changed my mind on that.
The right forward roll is well accepted as being the one that is open for debate with the rest of the team picking itself. I still go with Ayité as the best option, with probable Kebano replacing him if we need a goal.
I find Ojo frustrating and Piazon just not quite good enough. Christie as an option when holding a small lead makes sense but are he and Fredericks on the same wavelength like Sess and Targett, probably not !
Great thread. Interesting read.
At the time I was surprised but understood the Kebano substitution. The one that i have a problem with that the photo shows is Norwood for Stef Jo. There is no pressure on the defender that launches the ball into the box. Norwood is to deep. A forward, Fonte or Kamara, would have been more likely to occupy their back line and stop the hoof into our box in the first place
This we can post about for weeks.I am still gutted as it feels like a defeat.It could also mean the playoffs,which is a lottery and we start afresh again in the EFL.
Who will be left?
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Great thread. Interesting read.
At the time I was surprised but understood the Kebano substitution. The one that i have a problem with that the photo shows is Norwood for Stef Jo. There is no pressure on the defender that launches the ball into the box. Norwood is to deep. A forward, Fonte or Kamara, would have been more likely to occupy their back line and stop the hoof into our box in the first place
Johansen was knackered and Norwood usually gets stuck in. I thought it was a good decision at the time. But Norwood looked crap, like he did back in August/September unfortunately. Shame because a few months into the season he had started to look really good IMO.
I suppose we do have to have reduced expectations for Norwood these days given his lack of minutes on the pitch of late.
Quote from: FulhamStu on April 17, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
Christie as an option when holding a small lead makes sense but are he and Fredericks on the same wavelength like Sess and Targett, probably not !
A significant spot, FulhamStu, which backs up Matt10's photographic analysis. Players knowing where their team mates are at any particular moment is what Tim Ream mentioned in a recent interview and I do feel that the right wing spot is not as strongly claimed as the left wing, perhaps because none of the wannabe's are an exact fit to Frederick's style of play. Christie may have demonstrated something in training that SJ believed he could utilise on Saturday but the game situation was not ideal with players tiring under pressure. Like others I think SJ tried to cover the problem but failed and that could be classed as a mistake. Swapping Christie for Fredericks rather than Kebano, for example, obviously depends on how well they partner each other.
