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Title: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 11:11:28 AM
Where do we have to be in the league? Is it as simple as if we're in the relegation zone at Christmas a change is needed? Or will you back them both even if we're losing not quite good enough to stay up but playing our way?
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on June 13, 2018, 11:17:00 AM
Good grief!

Everyone knows its going to be tough and things are going to be a whole lot harder than the season just gone but even if you feel you have to look that far ahead for possible bad situations you could have been more thoughtful and put the question in a less negative way!
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: the nutflush on June 13, 2018, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 11:11:28 AM
Where do we have to be in the league? Is it as simple as if we're in the relegation zone at Christmas a change is needed? Or will you back them both even if we're losing not quite good enough to stay up but playing our way?

Way too much spare time on your hands mate.  Don't overthink it just enjoy the PL again. 
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Holders on June 13, 2018, 12:29:30 PM
Not by me they won't.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: RaySmith on June 13, 2018, 12:29:53 PM
Sadly, I think MJG is right.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: SuffolkWhite on June 13, 2018, 12:30:09 PM
I cant see it taking too long, the expectation as ever by some is too great. I think Khan will get his moaners as usual anyway and especially if fans think he has not spent enough on players.

But there you go that's life and people are entitled to there opinions.

At least we ain't Villa or Portsmouth etc etc etc

Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: HV71 on June 13, 2018, 12:34:36 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.


You are correct in what you say MJG - but it doesn't make it right. Given our recent difficult times and then the thrill of the game with Slav ( and of course Khans sustainable foundation) we should endeavour to show a bit of class and back them especially if it gets turbulent
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Lighthouse on June 13, 2018, 12:35:16 PM
I plan to turn on them now. We will not have a decent forward or a decent central defence. Our keeper should have been improved upon. Khan has made a mint out of us and never invested. Plus Joka will stick to the same old style and we will get caught out time and time again as teams in the Prem will be able to put pressure on us and we will just give the ball away. We will be down by Christmas.

Feels good to moan after last season.

(These are not necessarily the views of the poster)  :003:
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Fulham Tup North on June 13, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
This Board should be like North Korea, any post that is either negative or irrational should just be removed.

Now that Mr Trump is planning on turning NK into one massive Golf & Leisure resort, we need somewhere for the old Generals to ply their trade.
COYW
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Fernhurst on June 13, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
(These are not necessarily the views of the poster)  :003:

Are you sure?  :023:
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: nose returns on June 13, 2018, 12:56:16 PM
in answer to the original question. I think the manager and the owner will not be turned on, even if it des not go well providing we make a genuine effort to improve the squad and play to our best. it is a tough division and tough task to merely survive. However, if we do not bring in new blood of the appropriate quality OR the team simple fail to perform, being overawed by the opposition, then maybe things could heat up.

I am optimistic we will do reasonably but let's see what the squad looks like in August before worrying about stuff like this.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 13, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
Don't know why folks are worrying,this side as it stands is good enough for top half of premier.
Couple of decent signings and we could easily do a Burnley and qualify for Europa League... Coyw.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Deeping_white on June 13, 2018, 01:16:29 PM
Why are we even having this conversation in June? At least wait until September IF things aren't going well. It's very odd how at a time when we've got a summer of optimism ahead of us, we're already having depressing threads like this one cropping up. Just enjoy the ride for the time being...
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: cmg on June 13, 2018, 01:17:54 PM
I'd have thought they would both be turned on right now by the thought of PL football.
I am.
Or have I misread the question?
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: HectorWeso on June 13, 2018, 02:07:11 PM
 its a disgrace. Im joka out personally
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.

This is my view exactly. I wont turn on him even if we go down. I was at Wolves away in November when we lost and had verbal disagreements with the Sack the serb lot in the crowd. But i can guarantee, if we're struggling the moaners will crawl out the woodwork!
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: gezkc on June 13, 2018, 04:57:41 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 13, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: Nero on June 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
I think everyone knows it going to be a long hard season, unlike some clubs we don't think we have a divine right to be in the premier league. As long as we aren't adrift at the bottom and holding our own don't think anyone will complain expect Slav about recruitment as he does that every year
Hmm, I reckon if things don't go well we will see comments about Plan B within a game or two and 'he can't do it in the PL' not long afterwards. Patience has gone from the game and only need to look back to last Oct or Nov when people wanted Slav gone.

This is my view exactly. I wont turn on him even if we go down. I was at Wolves away in November when we lost and had verbal disagreements with the Sack the serb lot in the crowd. But i can guarantee, if we're struggling the moaners will crawl out the woodwork!

+1

After the fantastic two seasons we've had, and managing to get us back into the Premier League, there's no way I'll turn on SJ or Khan even if we go down. SJ's got us playing football how it should be played, and I think Khan genuinely has the best interests of the club at heart, so I think we're in a pretty good place right now.

Sadly, it won't take much for the moaners to emerge though.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: YankeeJim on June 13, 2018, 05:15:25 PM
The thing that worries me is that, without some major influx, we will have to play at a consistent level as we have since Christmas. Any slump or injuries to key people and we could be in trouble. If we start as we did last year we'll be dead and buried by Boxing day. See what bad effect you lot have on me. I'm starting to think Fulhamish.  :016:

Oh, as others have said if we have a run of poor form all the boo birds will be out. There is a strong vein of negativism among us.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: filham on June 13, 2018, 06:53:58 PM
As long as Jocanovic is given reasonable support then the pressure is going to be on him to get those 40 points before Easter.

If we fail to sign Mitrovic before the start of the season then the board will have to do some clever talking.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: MikeW on June 13, 2018, 08:07:56 PM
This is a desperately negative post.  It's not even mid-June yet!.. I'll settle for a Bournemouth for next year ... keep ourselves out of trouble and build nicely to close to top 6, expectation of another Europa?  Realistically, anything else is pie in the sky.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 08:23:28 PM
Quote from: MikeW on June 13, 2018, 08:07:56 PM
This is a desperately negative post.  It's not even mid-June yet!.. I'll settle for a Bournemouth for next year ... keep ourselves out of trouble and build nicely to close to top 6, expectation of another Europa?  Realistically, anything else is pie in the sky.

Desperately negative?

http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=62949.msg959025#msg959025
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: win-dup on June 13, 2018, 09:06:38 PM
I'm booing already.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: toshes mate on June 13, 2018, 09:19:44 PM
Firstly I'd say we are in the PL by right of being one of the best teams in the Championship last season, a league not noted for its capacity for creating good football sides who flourish there.  A result of being too good for the division you have just had a successful season in, you go up, and the test is simply to hold your own, competitively, against sides who are much the same as you are in the new league.  It'll be as hard or as easy as we make it for ourselves against those teams.  As for the better sides then we can still compete for points and not be downhearted when results do not come our way.  This is not the Fulham of old in the PL - this is SJ and staff's project Fulham, owned by Khan, and looking to surprise a few people especially those who will always be doubters.

We should judge our Club on the football we play on the pitch, the objectives the Club sets for itself.  When August comes there'll be plenty of time for doubters to have their say but until then we live in that window where literally anything can happen.   As for me I am optimistic about the coming season and how the team will turn up and be even better than last season. 
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: mrmicawbers on June 13, 2018, 10:30:49 PM
As long as we're not a Yo Yo Tour'e club
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: HatterDon on June 13, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
It will be well before our first match. It'll be when somebody we've been matched with in the press [who we probably don't want in the first place] signs with someone else.

I'm guessing they'll be under attack on this site by a week after the World Cup final.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: The Rock on June 13, 2018, 11:35:08 PM
Christmas time. That's when they turn on them on. You can probably wait to make your booking, it's still June.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: terryr on June 14, 2018, 04:52:08 AM
let me be the first
"slav out!"
Khan out!"
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Mince n Tatties on June 14, 2018, 05:45:01 AM
Quote from: TerryR on June 14, 2018, 04:52:08 AM
let me be the first
"slav out!"
Khan out!"

Hilda out,she doesn't make as good a cuppa as she used to.☕☕☕
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on June 14, 2018, 05:46:10 AM
Dugout
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Riverside on June 14, 2018, 10:09:54 AM
Khan will be turned on before the end of the transfer season. So before we even start playing .

Joka I think has a lot of credit and love and though a minority will start after the 1st defeat ( why can we not beat Spurs at Wembley !? ) I think the majority will stick with him so long as we are not in the bottom 3 .


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Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on August 10, 2018, 11:56:29 AM
I thought this would be a really interesting time to dig this back up.

With the unbelievable financial backing that we've had, I do not think the Khan's can reasonably be criticised even if we go down with 20 points.

How patient will fans be for Slav if we lose say the first 5 games?
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: epsomraver on August 10, 2018, 12:00:51 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on June 13, 2018, 11:39:56 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on June 13, 2018, 11:11:28 AM
Where do we have to be in the league? Is it as simple as if we're in the relegation zone at Christmas a change is needed? Or will you back them both even if we're losing not quite good enough to stay up but playing our way?

Way too much spare time on your hands mate.  Don't overthink it just enjoy the PL again.
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Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: fulhamben on August 10, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
is this a joke? our owner has clearly given the manager the tools he needed and wanted. there is very little extra that they could have done to influence how our season will pan out
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on August 10, 2018, 12:11:58 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 10, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
is this a joke? our owner has clearly given the manager the tools he needed and wanted. there is very little extra that they could have done to influence how our season will pan out

Why dont you just read my post mate?
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Lighthouse on August 10, 2018, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 10, 2018, 11:56:29 AM
I thought this would be a really interesting time to dig this back up.

With the unbelievable financial backing that we've had, I do not think the Khan's can reasonably be criticised even if we go down with 20 points.

How patient will fans be for Slav if we lose say the first 5 games?

Ironically I think the fans will be more patient if things go wrong than we would be if the huge investment hadn't been made. Now we have such an influx of players we all know it will take time to find the right blend. Players will disappoint while others will unexpectedly shine. Yes people like me will question the coach when he makes a decision or a substitution that doesn't come off. Frustration will be expressed if the coach picks players that look they lack commitment. The other bloke not playing will always have done it better.  Why doesn't he play Woodrow etc. But I think Slav will have a season to sort stuff out before the fans become too critical. If we had failed in the transfer market he would have until Christmas. Now he has as long as he likes.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: MJG on August 10, 2018, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: Riverside on June 14, 2018, 10:09:54 AM
Khan will be turned on before the end of the transfer season. So before we even start playing .


Nope, it never happened
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: fulhamben on August 10, 2018, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on August 10, 2018, 12:11:58 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 10, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
is this a joke? our owner has clearly given the manager the tools he needed and wanted. there is very little extra that they could have done to influence how our season will pan out

Why dont you just read my post mate?
because its ridiculous to suggest that anyone could turn on the owner after the window we have just had because of what could happen on the pitch. he literally has no control as to how games pan out and the points tally that we will amass.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: toshes mate on August 10, 2018, 12:56:10 PM
So far as the Khan's are concerned I will not turn for them or against them.  They are owners and they have a long time to be so before I'd consider them to be the kind of fixtures to be ecstatic or infuriated about.  As for our head coach then he has seen all this before in his career and he's done nothing so far, in my opinion, other then to be a model professional sticking to his task no matter what the odds for or against him may be.  I have always hoped he will become a long term fixture although, to be fair to him, I don't know if he is the kind of person who would stick around for the longer term, and that, is his choice.  I'd not want to see him leave for the wrong reasons whatever the future holds, and I hope, while the Khans are here they treat him with the respect he richly deserves.

So far as FFC goes I'd like the picture to remain one of an honourable and friendly football club, who wants to play and win the game as it was intended to be played and won, with players and staff who know what they means and why it is so important a tradition to retain.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Twig on August 10, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
Such a weird post.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: ffcthereligion on October 21, 2018, 10:51:43 AM
So, looks like the answer was 9 games for a fair few!
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 21, 2018, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on October 21, 2018, 10:51:43 AM
So, looks like the answer was 9 games for a fair few!
Yup, indeed.
Title: Re: At what point will Slav and Khan be turned on next year?
Post by: Fulham76 on October 21, 2018, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on October 21, 2018, 10:51:43 AM
So, looks like the answer was 9 games for a fair few!

Crazy isn't it!?