After today, I think this should be our lineup:
Rico
Fosu-Mensah Chambers MLM Bryan
Kmac
Seri Cairney
Schuerrle Mitro Vietto
I know that Vietto instead of Sess may be controversial, but I think he would be under huge pressure and it is better to use him as an impact sub. Also I would try Fosu-Mensah, as he may be better at crossing and is physically stronger.
If Bryan isn't fit then MLM at lb and Ream at cb. If Ream is still unavailable, then Christie, Chambers, Fosu-Mensah and MLM. If Zambo gets enough trainings with the team I would play him instead of Kmac too.
If we have any brains, we will defend for our lives. Try and nick a goal on the break.
I fear we will "play our way" and get beaten 5 nil.
Quote from: Robbie on August 11, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
If we have any brains, we will defend for our lives. Try and nick a goal on the break.
I fear we will "play our way" and get beaten 5 nil.
Agree with you. That's why I chose Fosu-Mensah, think he is more physical than Christie.
Odoi left back if Bryan injured ?
2 game ban I'm afraid
Quote from: HV71 on August 11, 2018, 11:04:47 PM
2 game ban I'm afraid
Yep, I would have chosen him too, but had to improvise.
Fabri
Fosu-Mensah Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Cairney Anguissa Seri
Schürrle Mitrovic Sessegnon
Assuming Bryan may not be available.
Definitely wouldn't break up our CB pairing now until Mawson comes in, unless one of them really cocks up
Rico
Fosu-Mensah Chambers MLM Bryan/Sessegnon
Cairney Anguissa Seri
AK47 Mitrovic Sessegnon/Schurrle
Sess at lb.....? Great idea Statto well done mate.
Christie had a good game. Don't see any reason why he should be dropped. Our two central defenders had never played before and were the weak link. Sess was well marshalled today but will have better days.
Quote from: Benny on August 12, 2018, 12:06:42 AM
Sess at lb.....? Great idea Statto well done mate.
you trolling me now? let it go mate. you've mugged yourself off on that other thread but everyone will have forgotten about it a few days
Rico; Bryan, Le Marchand, Chambers, Fosu; Zambo, Seri, Cairney; Sessegnon, Schürrle, Mitrovic
Ha ha not trolling someone who talks shite mate. But clearly you missed the first half of last season with Sess at left back!
Think you have proper mugged yourself off with that statement, what a clown as proves you hardly watch a game....keep hitting us with your clever stats Statto....
Benny. Hate to break it to you but if Bryan is injured, Sess will play LB. The big clue for you is that he went their 2nd half today. Now I'm going to bed, so if you want to troll someone about that, suggest you just send it direct to
[email protected]
I didn't say he didn't play at lb today did I? We all know he did because the second goal was partly down to him....Trying to be clever Statto is not your strong point buddy is it? Try and keeo up with what the discussion is about going forward.
You would also benefit from going to a game once in a while as all your statements have the markings of a armchair supporter.
Hope you enjoyed motd - good night
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 12, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christie had a good game. Don't see any reason why he should be dropped. Our two central defenders had never played before and were the weak link. Sess was well marshalled today but will have better days.
Agreed. That young Palace full-back was brilliant and made Sess look fairly ordinary. Just hope Slav doesn't drop him back to LB
Bettinelli
Christie Chambers Ream Le Marchand
McDonald
Cairney Seri
Kamara Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs - Rico , Fosu-Mensah, Aguissa , Johansen , Kebano , Schurrle , Vietto
Sess didn't get a look in even when he switched sides there lad stayed with him,it's another learning curve for sess.
Quote from: Statto on August 12, 2018, 12:34:56 AM
Benny. Hate to break it to you but if Bryan is injured, Sess will play LB. The big clue for you is that he went their 2nd half today. Now I'm going to bed, so if you want to troll someone about that, suggest you just send it direct to [email protected]
Hate to break it to you, we had no other choice. If Ream is fit, Le Marchand will go there.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 12, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christie had a good game. Don't see any reason why he should be dropped. Our two central defenders had never played before and were the weak link. Sess was well marshalled today but will have better days.
Our two CBs were two of the best players on the pitch IMO.
I would personally make minimal changes to the side as we need to build consistency amongst players and making wholesale changes is going to disrupt things further.
Spurs are head and shoulders above what we have and playing "our way" will end up in a drubbing as they have unbelievable attacking players and are fairly solid at the back too.
Anguissa probably hasn't had enough time to be settled and chucked into the lineup (will he even have his work permit by then?), I would likely keep back four the same if Bryan isn't injured. Mawson not available, as that would be my only real change.
If we can keep the game tight then last 20-30 mins AK47 could do some damage on counter attack coming on fresh, providing we aren't 3/4 down!
Quote from: BernieBoy on August 12, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
I would personally make minimal changes to the side as we need to build consistency amongst players and making wholesale changes is going to disrupt things further.
Spurs are head and shoulders above what we have and playing "our way" will end up in a drubbing as they have unbelievable attacking players and are fairly solid at the back too.
Anguissa probably hasn't had enough time to be settled and chucked into the lineup (will he even have his work permit by then?), I would likely keep back four the same if Bryan isn't injured. Mawson not available, as that would be my only real change.
If we can keep the game tight then last 20-30 mins AK47 could do some damage on counter attack coming on fresh, providing we aren't 3/4 down!
as I posted in another thread yesterday, id be amazed if Bryan was fit for spurs going on his actions when it happened, which is a shame as I thought he was having a fantastic game
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 12, 2018, 12:12:34 AM
Christie had a good game. Don't see any reason why he should be dropped. Our two central defenders had never played before and were the weak link. Sess was well marshalled today but will have better days.
They were full of him in the rad 5 commentary. Said we will not miss Fredericks.
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i think the same side should work, maybe play MLM on the left and Ream in the middle if he's fit. Christie looked good aside from crossing yesterday so i think we should keep him there. Rico in for Fabri. IF (and that's a big if) Anguissa is up to speed and ready i'd start him, if not i'd actually try Stefjo in for Kmac (Johansen has played at DM for Norway and will provide good potency and energy going forward) and maybe bring Kmac on late to kill the game off. Honestly don't know if Sess is going to get much service vs spurs. Maybe a physical presence like Kebano out on the left is better, or swap Schurrle over and play Kebano out Right, Sub AK and Sess on late to terrorize a tiring spurs back line if we're behind or drawing. If we're ahead maybe bringing Kmac on to protect the lead is ideal.
This first stretch of 3 games will be a slow start until mawson and anguissa are ready and odoi is available as depth at wing back. Once we have our full roster ready to go we'll be able to settle in and play the football we know and love. But until then i'd take a point at spurs.
Same starters as yesterday if Bryan fit. If not Ream (if fit) in & MLM to LB
Joka to make call on which of 3 keepers he wants to have as his no1 after having them all working in training this week
Hopefully work permit has arrived for Anguissa as another defensive mid fielder may be useful next week on the bench
Don't understand the call to drop Kmac thought he was one of the better proformers never looked under presssue until late on. TC, Sess and Schurrle were the weakest for me and of course the goalie
I'd keep the same team if poss bar Schurrle and the goalie
Quote from: F.luke on August 12, 2018, 09:04:50 AM
Don't understand the call to drop Kmac thought he was one of the better proformers never looked under presssue until late on. TC, Sess and Schurrle were the weakest for me and of course the goalie
I'd keep the same team if poss bar Schurrle and the goalie
yes I thought kmac looked decent as well. Broke up the play nicely.
Quote from: F.luke on August 12, 2018, 09:04:50 AM
Don't understand the call to drop Kmac thought he was one of the better proformers never looked under presssue until late on. TC, Sess and Schurrle were the weakest for me and of course the goalie
I'd keep the same team if poss bar Schurrle and the goalie
McDonald played well by his own standards. But when you need to press higher, he doesn't have the speed to do it. Sometimes, you just need more than he can offer.
I would put Fosu Mensah in, Christie was defensively Ok, but very very poor crossing. Seri created a lot space for him and he did not cross properly to Mitro once. And if you get space and dont use it in PL, then you'll loose all the time. I would keep both Centre backs, but Kane - Deli Ali is a different quality. Also would start with Schurrle and bring AK47 on after minutes, if we are still 0-0 or -10 then we still have a chance and AK can be very dangerous. I will be at Wembley to support, cant wait
Watching motd Spurs defence was all over the place at times against Newcastle, who hit the post twice.
We'll get chances against them,but need to take them.
Coyw.
I reckon Bryan will be fit. He's posted on social media "looking forward to Spurs next week", no mention of any disappointment at being injured
Early games always tend towards odd results and I saw nothing yesterday to make me want to change things except for injuries. But a lot will depend upon what happens during training sessions and the coaches get a better idea of their options.
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
Think we will get a pasting next week simply because we are starting with a new team unrecognizable from the play off final and don't expect us to gel for a good few weeks yet!
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
again I'm not so sure, we've seen it time and again, that when We play more defensively that it has the adverse effect and we end up getting pinned back and eventually conceed.granted our new players might be better at it, but I'd rather go down fighting than being so affraid that we rip up everything that has made us good in the last few seasons
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
again I'm not so sure, we've seen it time and again, that when We play more defensively that it has the adverse effect and we end up getting pinned back and eventually conceed.granted our new players might be better at it, but I'd rather go down fighting than being so affraid that we rip up everything that has made us good in the last few seasons
What I am trying to say is not to go all out defensive but to play a system which we can adapt to different phases in the game. My 3-5-2 can easily transition from defence to attack with a 5 man MF with 2 up top.
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
again I'm not so sure, we've seen it time and again, that when We play more defensively that it has the adverse effect and we end up getting pinned back and eventually conceed.granted our new players might be better at it, but I'd rather go down fighting than being so affraid that we rip up everything that has made us good in the last few seasons
What I am trying to say is not to go all out defensive but to play a system which we can adapt to different phases in the game. My 3-5-2 can easily transition from defence to attack with a 5 man MF with 2 up top.
yes it can, but what also happens a lot to s you get done on the counter and end with 3 at the back, or on quick breaks you still have 5 at the back and next to no one up top.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
again I'm not so sure, we've seen it time and again, that when We play more defensively that it has the adverse effect and we end up getting pinned back and eventually conceed.granted our new players might be better at it, but I'd rather go down fighting than being so affraid that we rip up everything that has made us good in the last few seasons
What I am trying to say is not to go all out defensive but to play a system which we can adapt to different phases in the game. My 3-5-2 can easily transition from defence to attack with a 5 man MF with 2 up top.
yes it can, but what also happens a lot to s you get done on the counter and end with 3 at the back, or on quick breaks you still have 5 at the back and next to no one up top.
Best to leave it up to Slavisa. He knows more than any of us. Anyway we are not paid to decide. In Slavisa I trust.
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 12:29:42 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 12, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Slavisa said he would pick teams for whoever we play. If this means changes in set up I wonder if he could go 3-5-2 which is the same as 5-3-2.
Rico/ Betts
Chambers Ream Le Marchand
Christie Seri Anguissa Cairney Sessegnon
AK 47/Vietto Mitrovic
This would beef up our defence a bit more. The danger man will be Alli who will drift in to the left side of the goal which is where he scores most. This formation will also allow us to counter break quicker. Cairney must play higher to provide more defence splitting passes. Yesterday he was even the 1st receiver from our GK many times.
think he meant pick different players as opposed to formations. He also said he wouldn't play defensively so that all but rules out your formation
Against the top 6 teams I think he will have to be a bit more defence minded or we will get hammered with the pace these teams play at when they attack. We will need more bodies to stifle them.
again I'm not so sure, we've seen it time and again, that when We play more defensively that it has the adverse effect and we end up getting pinned back and eventually conceed.granted our new players might be better at it, but I'd rather go down fighting than being so affraid that we rip up everything that has made us good in the last few seasons
What I am trying to say is not to go all out defensive but to play a system which we can adapt to different phases in the game. My 3-5-2 can easily transition from defence to attack with a 5 man MF with 2 up top.
yes it can, but what also happens a lot to s you get done on the counter and end with 3 at the back, or on quick breaks you still have 5 at the back and next to no one up top.
Best to leave it up to Slavisa. He knows more than any of us. Anyway we are not paid to decide. In Slavisa I trust.
yep, and nothing he has said or done indicates to me that he will all of a sudden change systems
Bettinelli
Christie - Chambers - Ream* - Bryan
McDonald - Anguissa
Schürrle - Seri - Sessegnon
Mitrovic
* Le Marchand if Ream is still injured.
Bench: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Le Marchand, Johansen, Cairney, Kamara & Vietto
Quote from: twang on August 12, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Bettinelli
Christie - Chambers - Ream* - Bryan
McDonald - Anguissa
Schürrle - Seri - Sessegnon
Mitrovic
* Le Marchand if Ream is still injured.
Bench: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Le Marchand, Johansen, Cairney, Kamara & Vietto
that's a huge call to drop Tom. Think I saw somewhere that he made 90 at of 93 passes or something along those lines
Quote from: twang on August 12, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Bettinelli
Christie - Chambers - Ream* - Bryan
McDonald - Anguissa
Schürrle - Seri - Sessegnon
Mitrovic
* Le Marchand if Ream is still injured.
Bench: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Le Marchand, Johansen, Cairney, Kamara & Vietto
that would be my team also Kmac with Anguissa along side him as we will need some extra strength shielding back 4.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 01:08:27 PM
Quote from: twang on August 12, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Bettinelli
Christie - Chambers - Ream* - Bryan
McDonald - Anguissa
Schürrle - Seri - Sessegnon
Mitrovic
* Le Marchand if Ream is still injured.
Bench: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Le Marchand, Johansen, Cairney, Kamara & Vietto
that's a huge call to drop Tom. Think I saw somewhere that he made 90 at of 93 passes or something along those lines
Yep, and I can understand if it's one that Slav won't make. But I think it's obvious that we need to protect the back four more than usual away to Spurs. Anguissa and McDonald are the two defensive midfielders we've got so it's either Seri or Tom as #10. Schürrle and Sess are both with players that track back well.
I thought KMac was excellent yesterday, and that Christie did not look out of place in the prem, being on of very few with any real pace.
Apart from changing the keeper I think we need some continuity in the team so they can acclimatise to playing with each other. If the manager takes the view that some of the new players are better than those we have already then he will get them in once fully fit. At the moment none of us, I suspect, know how match fit they are. I thought we weren't too bad yesterday and some of the new players looked really good (Le Marchand, Bryan and Seri in particular).
Up front we look weak. Unless Mitrovic or Sess score it is difficult to see where else our goals are coming from. I may be in a minority of one but Kamara is, in my view, nowhere near good enough for FFC. Fonte is rumoured to be going out on loan to a side in the Champions league. Our inability to play to his considerable ability and his inability to adjust to our system of play is a shame. Let's see what he does at a higher level.
We badly need to get Ayite fit as an alternative on the right and Kebano to see some playing time.
I would like Vietto to be given a chance on the wing as I saw him playing there a couple of times at Atletico Madrid and I think he could be a great player.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 12, 2018, 06:47:37 PM
I would like Vietto to be given a chance on the wing as I saw him playing there a couple of times at Atletico Madrid and I think he could be a great player.
interesting, is he a lefty or right footed
Quote from: twang on August 12, 2018, 01:01:54 PM
Bettinelli
Christie - Chambers - Ream* - Bryan
McDonald - Anguissa
Schürrle - Seri - Sessegnon
Mitrovic
* Le Marchand if Ream is still injured.
Bench: Rico, Fosu-Mensah, Le Marchand, Johansen, Cairney, Kamara & Vietto
So we signed a 2 time Europa league winner, with over 100 La Liga appearances, to be on the bench behind a Championship standard GK.
Championship standard = la liga standard
Quote from: fulhamben on August 12, 2018, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 12, 2018, 06:47:37 PM
I would like Vietto to be given a chance on the wing as I saw him playing there a couple of times at Atletico Madrid and I think he could be a great player.
interesting, is he a lefty or right footed
He's right footed, but can play with both feet. He is fast and a good dribbler, which is why I think we should try him on the wing.
Quote from: Statto on August 12, 2018, 09:44:33 PM
Championship standard = la liga standard
So Wolves = Barcelona
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 12, 2018, 11:09:13 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 12, 2018, 10:56:31 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 12, 2018, 09:44:33 PM
Championship standard = la liga standard
So Wolves = Barcelona
And Fulham=Real Madrid😊
We had this discussion last year on here several times.
La liga is like the spl insofar as both have one or a few teams that are much better than the rest.
Look down to 6th, 7th, 8th and you have the likes of Eibar and Girona. Put them in the Championship and they'd fnish in the same position alongside Leeds, Stoke...
I predict Jokanovic won't make any changes in the lineup, apart from maybe Zambo on for Kmac because of his speed(if he has enough training sessions with the team) and maybe Bryan if he isn't fit enough. Schuerrle and Fabri may be on the bench too, but I doubt it.
Quote from: HV71 on August 11, 2018, 11:04:47 PM
2 game ban I'm afraid
how is two yellow cards a two game ban, i always thought it was one?
Quote from: Robbie on August 11, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
If we have any brains, we will defend for our lives. Try and nick a goal on the break.
I fear we will "play our way" and get beaten 5 nil.
whilst i understand the concept. against team like spurs, if you tempt to defend for your lives you end up losing. best to play to our strength and impose our game on them, we remain good enough. however when out of possesion we need to work hard, concentrate and cut out the supply of ball to kane.
i say we play the slava way.
Betts
Christie Chambers Ream LML
Mcdonald
Seri Cairney
Schürrle Mitro Sess
I'd go with-
Betts
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri Anguissa Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Assuming all the above are available for selection, I would like to see Ream back at CB providing he's not still injured. Also would like to see AK as a starter.
(assuming that Ream & Bryan are fit)...
Rico
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Although Fabri wasn't as bad as some have made out I think we've loaned Rico to push both Betts and Fabri.
Assuming Ream and Bryan are fit I think this will be our regular starting back four
The midfield three picks itself
I'm going for AK rather than Schurrle as I like him, I think he's going to get better and better as the season progresses. Sess further upfield is a no-brainer as is Mitro
Not sure about the subs but I would probably choose
Fabri, Le Marchand, Schurrle, Vietto, Fosu-Mensah, Johansen, Kebano
Quote from: nose returns on August 12, 2018, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: HV71 on August 11, 2018, 11:04:47 PM
2 game ban I'm afraid
how is two yellow cards a two game ban, i always thought it was one?
2nd red of the season.
Quote from: fulhamexmouth on August 13, 2018, 07:55:04 AM
I'd go with-
Betts
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri Anguissa Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Assuming all the above are available for selection, I would like to see Ream back at CB providing he's not still injured. Also would like to see AK as a starter.
Why would you drop MLM, thought he looked class.
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
(assuming that Ream & Bryan are fit)...
Rico
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Although Fabri wasn't as bad as some have made out I think we've loaned Rico to push both Betts and Fabri.
Assuming Ream and Bryan are fit I think this will be our regular starting back four
The midfield three picks itself
I'm going for AK rather than Schurrle as I like him, I think he's going to get better and better as the season progresses. Sess further upfield is a no-brainer as is Mitro
Not sure about the subs but I would probably choose
Fabri, Le Marchand, Schurrle, Vietto, Fosu-Mensah, Johansen, Kebano
really, so you think Mawson will be a bench boy when fit?
For Spurs - ideally the same lineup as against Palace(whe should make minimal changes, because Spurs are a really tough outfit)
Imo our ideal lineup should be
Fabri(Rico if Fabri continues to make mistakes)
Chambers Mawson MLM Bryan
Zambo
Seri Cairney
Schuerrle Mitro Sess
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2018, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
(assuming that Ream & Bryan are fit)...
Rico
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Although Fabri wasn't as bad as some have made out I think we've loaned Rico to push both Betts and Fabri.
Assuming Ream and Bryan are fit I think this will be our regular starting back four
The midfield three picks itself
I'm going for AK rather than Schurrle as I like him, I think he's going to get better and better as the season progresses. Sess further upfield is a no-brainer as is Mitro
Not sure about the subs but I would probably choose
Fabri, Le Marchand, Schurrle, Vietto, Fosu-Mensah, Johansen, Kebano
really, so you think Mawson will be a bench boy when fit?
when he's fit he'll need game time to get fully 'match fit' so I don't think he'll go straight into the team and if Chanbers and Ream have built a good 'partnership' then I can't see that being broken up just to fit Mawson, time will tell
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2018, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
(assuming that Ream & Bryan are fit)...
Rico
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Although Fabri wasn't as bad as some have made out I think we've loaned Rico to push both Betts and Fabri.
Assuming Ream and Bryan are fit I think this will be our regular starting back four
The midfield three picks itself
I'm going for AK rather than Schurrle as I like him, I think he's going to get better and better as the season progresses. Sess further upfield is a no-brainer as is Mitro
Not sure about the subs but I would probably choose
Fabri, Le Marchand, Schurrle, Vietto, Fosu-Mensah, Johansen, Kebano
really, so you think Mawson will be a bench boy when fit?
when he's fit he'll need game time to get fully 'match fit' so I don't think he'll go straight into the team and if Chanbers and Ream have built a good 'partnership' then I can't see that being broken up just to fit Mawson, time will tell
I'd be amazed if Mawson doesn't end up being one of our regular back 4. Infact the only thing I can see stopping it is injury
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 09:22:15 AM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2018, 09:06:23 AM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 13, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
(assuming that Ream & Bryan are fit)...
Rico
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
AK47 Mitro Sess
Although Fabri wasn't as bad as some have made out I think we've loaned Rico to push both Betts and Fabri.
Assuming Ream and Bryan are fit I think this will be our regular starting back four
The midfield three picks itself
I'm going for AK rather than Schurrle as I like him, I think he's going to get better and better as the season progresses. Sess further upfield is a no-brainer as is Mitro
Not sure about the subs but I would probably choose
Fabri, Le Marchand, Schurrle, Vietto, Fosu-Mensah, Johansen, Kebano
really, so you think Mawson will be a bench boy when fit?
when he's fit he'll need game time to get fully 'match fit' so I don't think he'll go straight into the team and if Chanbers and Ream have built a good 'partnership' then I can't see that being broken up just to fit Mawson, time will tell
I thought Chambers and MLM make a pretty good partnership, why would you break them. Just my opinion, agree opinions can differ.
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 13, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
Yeah, that's what I thought, we shouldn't change a thing. Agree with that 100%
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 13, 2018, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 13, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
Yeah, that's what I thought, we shouldn't change a thing. Agree with that 100%
me personally I'd play the team that he intends to start against Brighton. I'd literally write spurs game off just to get them up to speed for that
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 13, 2018, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 13, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
Yeah, that's what I thought, we shouldn't change a thing. Agree with that 100%
me personally I'd play the team that he intends to start against Brighton. I'd literally write spurs game off just to get them up to speed for that
agree
although i assume you mean burnley
that's why i'd bring in rico, anguissa and another attacker, AK47 or vietto
Quote from: Statto on August 13, 2018, 12:45:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 13, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on August 13, 2018, 09:36:12 AM
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 13, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
Yeah, that's what I thought, we shouldn't change a thing. Agree with that 100%
me personally I'd play the team that he intends to start against Brighton. I'd literally write spurs game off just to get them up to speed for that
agree
although i assume you mean burnley
that's why i'd bring in rico, anguissa and another attacker, AK47 or vietto
yes sorry meant burnley
Quote from: TheGreatGatsby on August 13, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Controversial maybe...
Fabri
Christie Chambers MLM Bryan
Seri McDonald Cairney
Schurlle Mitro Sess
I would bring in Rico and Fosu for Fabri and Christie.
Quote from: F.luke on August 12, 2018, 09:04:50 AM
Don't understand the call to drop Kmac thought he was one of the better proformers never looked under presssue until late on. TC, Sess and Schurrle were the weakest for me and of course the goalie
I'd keep the same team if poss bar Schurrle and the goalie
Agree on Kmac, but thought Cearney looked quality. In general thought our midfield looked much better than Palace's.
Quote from: MrFFC on August 12, 2018, 04:03:38 AM
Bettinelli
Christie Chambers Ream Le Marchand
McDonald
Cairney Seri
Kamara Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs - Rico , Fosu-Mensah, Aguissa , Johansen , Kebano , Schurrle , Vietto
This is our strongest available team.
Quote from: Chutney on August 13, 2018, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: MrFFC on August 12, 2018, 04:03:38 AM
Bettinelli
Christie Chambers Ream Le Marchand
McDonald
Cairney Seri
Kamara Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs - Rico , Fosu-Mensah, Aguissa , Johansen , Kebano , Schurrle , Vietto
This is our strongest available team.
Except Bryan is more likely to be available than Ream.
Fabri
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Cairney Seri
Schurrle Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
Fabri
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Cairney Seri
Schurrle Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Dropping Kmac is bold, he's the anchor of our side.
I'm not sure Anguissa's work permit has come through yet
Quote from: Chutney on August 14, 2018, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
Fabri
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Cairney Seri
Schurrle Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Dropping Kmac is bold, he's the anchor of our side.
Hmm, While I agree to an extent I think it is bold to leave out a 30m signing who is most likely an upgrade on Mcdonald.
Don't think we should drop Schurrle for AK, I noticed Schurrle made lots of positive runs that weren't spotted by teammates - he is very positive and tried to get in the box / on the end of things.
Once our players get used to where he makes runs he will get goals as has proved in his career. I think he needs time on the pitch for our team to get used to how he's plays and once we get as a unit I think he and Sess will be very able support to Mitro in the penalty area. Leaving Schurrle in the bench will only delay this understanding from building.
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 14, 2018, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
Fabri
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Cairney Seri
Schurrle Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Dropping Kmac is bold, he's the anchor of our side.
Hmm, While I agree to an extent I think it is bold to leave out a 30m signing who is most likely an upgrade on Mcdonald.
A players fee doesn't necessarily determine their ability, KMac would walk the french league, would he then be worth £30mil?
Think he's one of our most underrated players and I find it hard to believe any new signing would be an immediate upgrade, perhaps in time, but right now, with so many new players already in the squad, Kmac seems more important than ever.
Quote from: Chutney on August 14, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 14, 2018, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on August 14, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
Fabri
Christie Chambers Ream Bryan
Anguissa
Cairney Seri
Schurrle Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Dropping Kmac is bold, he's the anchor of our side.
Hmm, While I agree to an extent I think it is bold to leave out a 30m signing who is most likely an upgrade on Mcdonald.
A players fee doesn't necessarily determine their ability, KMac would walk the french league, would he then be worth £30mil?
Think he's one of our most underrated players and I find it hard to believe any new signing would be an immediate upgrade, perhaps in time, but right now, with so many new players already in the squad, Kmac seems more important than ever.
Amazed at the claim MacDonald is underrated. My view is he's the most overrated player we've had in my near 30 years of Fulham support. He certainly didn't make quick enough decisions Saturday, got caught a few times, and mostly passed the ball 5 metres to Christie. I can see an argument for him sitting in front of the defence on Saturday, but he really needs to step it up.
Quote from: Count Flapula on August 14, 2018, 11:17:58 AM
Don't think we should drop Schurrle for AK, I noticed Schurrle made lots of positive runs that weren't spotted by teammates - he is very positive and tried to get in the box / on the end of things.
Once our players get used to where he makes runs he will get goals as has proved in his career. I think he needs time on the pitch for our team to get used to how he's plays and once we get as a unit I think he and Sess will be very able support to Mitro in the penalty area. Leaving Schurrle in the bench will only delay this understanding from building.
Totally agree. Saw the same as you. Just not on the same wavelength. AK's time will come, but for the moment he is best to come on as an impact player when defenders are tired. I doubt AK can sprint or play with a high intensity all game.
If Bryan is fit and we're confident he can get up and down, I would contemplate McDonald and Anguissa sitting, and Cairney or Seri playing as an inside-wide forward instead of Sess/Schurlle.
Which I leave out is dependent on who Tottenham play - our left side is likely to be under more pressure if they pick the same team - Aurier/Moura is a much bigger threat down the flanks than Davies/Ali.
I have no confidence in McDonald being able to cover Erikssen on his own (not to mention how Ali and others drift into midfield too).
I'm not as harsh on McDonald as that poster above, but he doesn't have the speed/body-control necessary at this level to sit in that position on his own.
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 14, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
I'm not sure Anguissa's work permit has come through yet
no idea how long the process can take but based on Muto for Newcastle recently getting his in less than a week, i'm assuming anguissa will get his by saturday
Quote from: Statto on August 14, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 14, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
I'm not sure Anguissa's work permit has come through yet
no idea how long the process can take but based on Muto for Newcastle getting his in less than a week, i'm assuming anguissa will get his by saturday
did vietto not need one if so he's came pretty quick ck
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2018, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 14, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 14, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
I'm not sure Anguissa's work permit has come through yet
no idea how long the process can take but based on Muto for Newcastle getting his in less than a week, i'm assuming anguissa will get his by saturday
did vietto not need one if so he's came pretty quick ck
don't think so, based on the offal announcement not mentioning it, whereas they mentioned the work permit in the seri and anguissa announcements. i assume he's also got spanish or italian or some other EU citizenship somehow
I think Schurrle will start until he gets fully match fit. With AK coming on when he is tired.
Just an opinion but I think that is the way Joka will play it. He is very methodical.
When all of the players are fit he will assess them and decide who to drop.
COYW!
We don't know enough yet. We don't have all our players yet either. I want to see Mensah, and to ask to see him at LB due to our injury crisis (if Bryan isn't fit) is an insane thing to say isn't it?
We will win 1-0 like our last time at Wembley, or lose 5-0. Our style doesn't permit otherwise. We don't know or have our top 11 yet, so I fear it's 5-0.
Quote from: Statto on August 14, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 14, 2018, 12:39:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 14, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on August 14, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
I'm not sure Anguissa's work permit has come through yet
no idea how long the process can take but based on Muto for Newcastle getting his in less than a week, i'm assuming anguissa will get his by saturday
did vietto not need one if so he's came pretty quick ck
don't think so, based on the offal announcement not mentioning it, whereas they mentioned the work permit in the seri and anguissa announcements. i assume he's also got spanish or italian or some other EU citizenship somehow
if you look on the online shop you can't buy an Anguissa shirt, this is probably just an over-site however they may be waiting until he can play before his shirt is available?
Rico
Bryan
MLM
Chambers
Christie
McDonald
Seri
Cairney
Schurrle
Mitro
Kamara
