After last Saturday's effort I'll be clutching at any straw to get a result against Newcastle, here's my 'best of a bad bunch'...
Seri still needs some time on the bench, he's a better player than we've seen so far, its just not working at the moment. Christie is the best(?) option we have for right back and I'm also hoping that young Ryan will be fit.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers KMac
AK47 Cairney Sessegnon
Mitro
Subs: Betts, Ream, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Shurrle
I think the tinkerman will tinker
Rico
Christie Ream Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
AK47 Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Subs Betts, Odoi, MLM, Kebano, Vietto, Ayite, Cairney
Rico
Odoi MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Seri
AK47 Cairney Sessegnon
Mitro
Under Claudio christie,odoi,alfie.mom seems to have worked best defensively only because they have held there positions with and without the ball.chambers and cisse would be a good shout.AK over schurlle for me the rest as above.
Quote from: sunburywhite on December 18, 2018, 05:12:55 PM
I think the tinkerman will tinker
Rico
Christie Ream Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
AK47 Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Subs Betts, Odoi, MLM, Kebano, Vietto, Ayite, Cairney
You may well be right but the LAST thing we need is tinkering, especially in defence. Jok tried changing virtually every week. We need some consistency of selection. Bear in mind that up until the 2nd W Ham goal we were pretty much bossing the game and could easily have scored 2 or 3. It is a real dilemma for Claudio. Who'd be a manager?
Quote from: FFC1987 on December 18, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
Rico
Odoi MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Seri
AK47 Cairney Sessegnon
Mitro
Odoi at right back again, no thanks, central defense maybe!
Would use Christie right back then odoi next to alfie in CB with MLM left back as Bryan seems to drift out of position on other side of the pitch all of them being told hold your positions by CR.
————————————Rico—————————-
Christie————Mawson————-MLM—————Bryan
—————————Chambers——Seri———————-
Ak47—————————Cairney————————Sessegnon
—————————————-Mitro——————-
Betts
Odoi
Zambo
Mcdonald
Johansen
Schurrle
Kebano
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
I'd push most of my attacks down my left, expecting to do well against Schurrle and a rookie right back.
Quote from: WhiteJC on December 18, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
After last Saturday's effort I'll be clutching at any straw to get a result against Newcastle, here's my 'best of a bad bunch'...
Seri still needs some time on the bench, he's a better player than we've seen so far, its just not working at the moment. Christie is the best(?) option we have for right back and I'm also hoping that young Ryan will be fit.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers KMac
AK47 Cairney Sessegnon
Mitro
Subs: Betts, Ream, MLM, Cisse, Seri, Shurrle
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Rico
Christie Mlm Mawson Bryan
Aiyte Chambers Johansen Sess
Cairny
Mitro
Take your pick for subs
Rico
Christie - McDonald - Mawson - Le Marchand
Cairney - Chambers - Anguissa - Sessegnon
Kamara - Mitrovic
Bench: Bettinelli, Odoi, Bryan, Johansen, Seri, Schurrle & Ayite/Kebano
As long as Schurrle is not in the first team that is an improvement immediately.
I've seen us play without Seri on the pitch, and believe it or not, we are significantly worse. As of now, he has to play.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Think it's time to swap Odoi out, he's had too many chances for me, and can't afford to suffer more of his switched off moments. So, I'm inserting Christie at RB, and RCB will be Mawson, LeMarchand returns, and will be LCB, with Bryan at LB.
4-2-3-1
Rico
Christie Mawson LeMarchand Bryan
Chambers Seri
Cairney Kamara Sessegnon
Mitro
Subs: Betts, Johansen, Ream, Cisse, Schurrle, Anguissa, Odoi
Rico, Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan, Chambers Anguissa, Schurrle Seri Sessegnon, Mitrovic
Logic behind this is. Anguissas best performances at Marseille were alongside a more defensive DM in a 4231. We have never seen Anguissa and a more defensive CM other than against Liverpool and against Brighton (Mcdonald) and these were 2 of his better performances.
The question marks then become Seri vs. Cairney and Schurrle vs. Kamara. I have chosen Seri as I believe Cairney slows us down a tad when playing on the counter away from home. I also don't believe he's got the fitness to play 3 games in a week. The second decision was a flip of the coin decision. Schurrle the better player but Kamara in better form. I would go with Schurrle as Kamara is a better impact sub vs. a tired defense.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson MLM
Chambers Seri
AK47 Cairney Sessegnon
Mitro
Statto - that's the best line up by far
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Seri rather than Cairney and Shurrle rather than AK, Steve Sess and Cisse playing, recipe for a complete disaster, but we are getting used to them!
Quote from: Baszab on December 18, 2018, 09:07:42 PM
Statto - that's the best line up by far
Agreed, but still doesn't look like a winning formula, we don't have one until we get in another 4 players!
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 18, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
That's more like it!!!
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 18, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
This team looks better balanced, than any others.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 18, 2018, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 18, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
This team looks better balanced, than any others.
Only thing I can't fathom with everyone's selection is, they all moan that Seri doesn't work well in that position yet everyone insists on putting him there.
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 18, 2018, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 18, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
This team looks better balanced, than any others.
Only thing I can't fathom with everyone's selection is, they all moan that Seri doesn't work well in that position yet everyone insists on putting him there.
But I imagine only in the absence of a more suitable player though. Which hopefully Fulham will obtain in early January.
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 10:54:00 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 18, 2018, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on December 18, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
Rico
Christie Mawson MLM Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sess
Mitro
Subs: Kebano, Schullre and Cisse
Bench: Betts, Odoi, KMac, Vietto
This team looks better balanced, than any others.
Only thing I can't fathom with everyone's selection is, they all moan that Seri doesn't work well in that position yet everyone insists on putting him there.
Depending on how you see it, the grim reality is that Seri is our playmaker now. It was evident as soon as he left the pitch we couldn't muster enough chances like we did in the first half. Painful as that be, because I have always been of Johansen, but he just isn't doing it so far this year.
IMO we were really good in attacking against West Ham (especially in the 1st half), just needed to sort the defense out.
Subbing off Seri killed our attack totally.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers
Kamara Cairney Seri Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs: Bettinelli, MLM, Ream, Anguissa, Vietto, Schurrle
Could 5-3-2 work?
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson MLM Sess
Cairney Chambers Seri
Kamara Mitro
Subs: Schullre, Anguissa, Bryan
Bench: Betts, Ream, Cisse, Vietto
For me
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers McDonald
Cairney Seri R Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs - Bettinelli, S Sessegnon , Le Marchand , Johansen , Kebano , Kamara , Schurrle
Quote from: MrFFC on December 20, 2018, 08:43:07 AM
For me
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers McDonald
Cairney Seri R Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs - Bettinelli, S Sessegnon , Le Marchand , Johansen , Kebano , Kamara , Schurrle
:plus one:
Quote from: Moltobueno on December 19, 2018, 06:47:14 AM
IMO we were really good in attacking against West Ham (especially in the 1st half), just needed to sort the defense out.
Subbing off Seri killed our attack totally.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers
Kamara Cairney Seri Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Subs: Bettinelli, MLM, Ream, Anguissa, Vietto, Schurrle
+1
Rico
Christie - Mawson - MLM - Bryan
Seri - Chambers
Schurlle - Cairney - Sess
Mitro
All options have been tried and failed. Now both Cairney and Mitrovic have been left out of the team in an attempt to improve team performance. This team selection is a lottery and I don't know what is best and am not sure that Ranieri does. Best I can do is:-
Rico
? ? ? ?
Chambers ?
? ? ?
Mitrovic
What this thread shows is that there are so many different opinions as to what our starting eleven should be.
If I write out my first starting eleven today, I reckon within 24 hours I would amend one or two positions, and probably again within another 24 hours.
Because for me we have not got enough players currently playing well enough to be selected to form a team.
Maybe a five aside team.
Which eleven genuinely have earnt a starting place, if you take into consideration their current form, workrate, application, passion and effort, not forgetting their ability.
Not many is there, and certainly not enough to field a team.
Probably if I was pushed, maybe around 8, but only just.
Which tells me, that unless circumstances change against Newcastle United, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Huddersfield Town and Arsenal, prior to the January Window, then the month of January will determine whether we stay up or go down, depending on whether we recruit the right personnel, who have the quality and desire for a relegation scrap, because at the moment we do not have nearly enough, hence the reason why I have difficulty in selecting enough players to form a team at this moment in time.
Every week we have a thread with supporters selecting their team, nothing wrong with that.
But generally every week it's a circus and a pantomime performance over a 90 + minute runout.
Whether it is defence, attack or midfield, individually or collectively. That's why I never bother to name an 11, because it ends up with the best players being the ones that never played.
We are chasing our own tail.
So if nothing changes dramatically enough in those four matches, to alter our position, and there is no evidence so far to show that it will.
Then I can only then rely on the right kind of players being brought in to do one job, and one job only, and that is to avoid relegation at three other clubs expense.
Simple as that, I cannot see how saying statements like, in the Manager I trust, whoever the manager is, that's Cobblers. Or I hope, because at the moment, we have three hopes, no hope, Bob Hope and the hope that we sign quality players that are up for a battle, up for a fight, and to play for the shirt.
Yes we have 21 matches in the League left, but it will be down to 17 before we play Burnley away, a ground which has never been happy hunting for any Fulham team.
A couple months ago, we were saying, including little old me, we have still got 32 matches left, plenty of time. Well since then we have changed the manager, but not the recruitment individuals, played 11 won 1 drawn 1and lost 9, scored 8 conceded 29, that's 4 points out of a possible 33 points, and we are rock bottom and adrift.
That is the stark truth, and nothing tells me very much will change before we can get our hands on a few Warriors, Leaders and fighters who know how to dig us out of this hole we are currently in, but they also have to have the desire and hunger and confidence that is currently absent from so many of our players.
Crossing fingers does not work, and neither does wearing your favourite underwear.
You may pitch your team now, but in 48 hours, what's the betting you may change your mind.
Now if it was a five a side League, it would be a little easier.
Quote from: davew on December 18, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Seri rather than Cairney and Shurrle rather than AK, Steve Sess and Cisse playing, recipe for a complete disaster, but we are getting used to them!
Don't worry, you can shuffle the pack many ways and still come up with the recipe for a disaster as we have seen already this season.
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2018, 06:18:33 PM
Quote from: davew on December 18, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Seri rather than Cairney and Shurrle rather than AK, Steve Sess and Cisse playing, recipe for a complete disaster, but we are getting used to them!
Don't worry, you can shuffle the pack many ways and still come up with the recipe for a disaster as we have seen already this season.
There is someone keeping an eye on you, I hope
Sess is out! No point picking him is there?
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 20, 2018, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2018, 06:18:33 PM
Quote from: davew on December 18, 2018, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on December 18, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Rico
S Sessegnon MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
Schurrle Seri Sessegnon
Mitro
Seri rather than Cairney and Shurrle rather than AK, Steve Sess and Cisse playing, recipe for a complete disaster, but we are getting used to them!
Don't worry, you can shuffle the pack many ways and still come up with the recipe for a disaster as we have seen already this season.
There is someone keeping an eye on you, I hope
Not a lot else has worked this season so thought I would mix it up abit.
Firstly just reading these team selections is enough to make me need a stiff drink, secondly you all seem to have missed the post saying frank(thank God) and Sess are out of contention.
Sessegnon missing through injury is a blow. Hope Ranieri gives Kebano a chance think he would be good away from home
As everybody has had Sess in their team then nobody will have made the correct selection this week
Show just how weak we are defensively when Odoi and Ream keep getting selected when neither is up to Prem standard.
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2018, 10:24:51 AM
All options have been tried and failed. Now both Cairney and Mitrovic have been left out of the team in an attempt to improve team performance. This team selection is a lottery and I don't know what is best and am not sure that Ranieri does. Best I can do is:-
Rico
? ? ? ?
Chambers ?
? ? ?
Mitrovic
Brilliant (lol), now Newcastle know what we are planning, I have to agree with your choice, perhaps we should put an advent calendar on the official Fulham website and peel off the names of the players behind the numbers!
Quote from: sunburywhite on December 21, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
As everybody has had Sess in their team then nobody will have made the correct selection this week
Must be a rollover then to the next game, wish I had picked a team which I would not have included Sess (sadly), he is in the pack of players that we have that are not good enough to play in the PL, but he will make the grade in the next couple of years!
I'd go with the team below.
Rico
Christie MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
AK47 Seri Kebano
Mitro
At this point I would go
———————————-Schwarzer————————
Pantsil—————Hughes———Hangeland————Konchesky
Duff——————-Etuhu————Murphy—————-Dempsey
——————————-Gera——————————————
———————————————-Zamora
GK 25 S Rico
RB 22 C Christie
RCB 26 A Mawson
LCB 20 M Le Marchand
LB 23 J Bryan
RCM 5 C Chambers
LCM 24 J Seri
RAM 36 L De La Torre
CAM 10 T Cairney
LAM 14 A Schurrle
ST 9 A Mitrovic
Subs:
1 M Bettinelli
4 D Odoi
6 K McDonald
8 S Johansen
13 T Ream
19 L Vietto
47 A Kamara
Left-field? Perhaps. But Odoi and Ream were at fault on Saturday for the first goal, and I'd rather not play Kamara given he had more misses than Henry VIII. If we'd have put the chances away on Saturday, we'd have won, easily. At this level you can't afford to squander your opportunities, and he has to be dropped.
Hopefully MLM is fit - talk about a candidate for most improved!
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 18, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
I've seen us play without Seri on the pitch, and believe it or not, we are significantly worse. As of now, he has to play.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Defensively? Which game?
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan (I'd prefer MLM)
Chambers Seri Cairney Schurrle
AK47 Mitro
I don't see Seri being pulled by Claudio when we don't have a definitive replacement in the holding spot. I'm not a big fan of Johansson either. McDonald looks slow.
Wasn't Vietto a striker? Maybe play him right behind Mitro instead of AK47?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 22, 2018, 01:19:00 AMI'm not a big fan of Johansson either.
I don't like Stefan Johansson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Johansson) either. Ron Dennis made the right move replacing him with Senna in 1988.
(This is a humourous attempt at saying watch your spelling.)
Quote from: Brawn on December 22, 2018, 01:16:34 AM
GK 25 S Rico
RB 22 C Christie
RCB 26 A Mawson
LCB 20 M Le Marchand
LB 23 J Bryan
RCM 5 C Chambers
LCM 24 J Seri
RAM 36 L De La Torre
CAM 10 T Cairney
LAM 14 A Schurrle
ST 9 A Mitrovic
Subs:
1 M Bettinelli
4 D Odoi
6 K McDonald
8 S Johansen
13 T Ream
19 L Vietto
47 A Kamara
Left-field? Perhaps. But Odoi and Ream were at fault on Saturday for the first goal, and I'd rather not play Kamara given he had more misses than Henry VIII. If we'd have put the chances away on Saturday, we'd have won, easily. At this level you can't afford to squander your opportunities, and he has to be dropped.
Hopefully MLM is fit - talk about a candidate for most improved!
I like this! Perhaps its a bit of a stretch for De La Torre and cannot see Claudio dropping AK47 plus Kebano and Ayite have game time ahead of DLT. I think MLM is fit as the only injuries acknowledged have been Sess and Zambo.
I would like to see a 4-4-2 (Defence (and cover) first and perhaps play a long ball game
Rico
? Odoi Mawsom Bryan
Chambers TC KMac Sess/Cisse
AK Mitro
I only saw the game on TV but thought AK was excellent, OK his finishing wasn't "clinical"
but his effort, positional play, enthusiasm, defensive potential and pure "rawness and pace"
deserve his continued opportunity.
It's like you guys don't trust Ranieri's reflection in saying the first half against West Ham wast the best we have played. Why would this be disrupted then?
That first-half was very good, maybe our best this season, and we should have scored, and even after we went behind we kept going forward and creating good chances, that we should have scored from, only to go behind again, but we still tried to get back in it. In the second half they sat back, and there was bit of a stalemate, but if we'd been in front, they'd have had to come at us, and left themselves exposed the back.
So, should we start with this?
5
Sergio Rico
4
Denis Odoi
26
Alfie Mawson
13
Tim Ream
23
Joe Bryan
5
Calum Chambers
24
Jean Michael Seri
10
Tom Cairney
47
Aboubakar Kamara
14
André Schürrle
9
Aleksandar M
Though, of course, we are away this time. maybe KMac should start. And should Schurrle start - does he do enough defensively? Although, he is someone who can score, and maybe works harder than people think.
I really do think we have been very unlucky, and are desperately in need of the confidence good results, that we deserve, will give us.
I do think it's starting to come together, but missed chances and the same old defensive lapses, have undone us - but a couple of wins, even one, and with confidence coming back, I think we could see a completely different team.
Our players are better than their results, and also becoming more of a team.
Let's hope for the best today at Newcastle, to where I'm shortly setting out.
The players deserve it, and out brilliant away support certainly does. Let's hope we're cheering a Fulham victory.We have to think we're in with a chance, just try not to make any errors and concede early. xmascheer1 049:gif
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Quote from: Wingnut on December 21, 2018, 10:23:13 PM
I'd go with the team below.
Rico
Christie MLM Mawson Bryan
Chambers Cisse
AK47 Seri Kebano
Mitro
This is almost the closest and near enough the team I would select, given who is available.
My only one concern is that for me, the jury is out with Seri, I would definitely select Cairney. Seri will be off to another club sooner rather than later.
However, I understand the reasons as it is not easy to select a starting eleven when not that many have been playing as well as you would expect.
I am glad to see Cisse in this eleven, he cannot do any worse than others, he deserves his chance.
As does Kebano, and I am surprised he has not been involved more, considering the poor performances of others.
That back four is as good as we have by a long way, and they should stick with it.
The more consistent we are, the more likely we will have a settle side, and it works both ways. The more settled we are the more consistent we should be.
Cisse and Kebano are fighters and will punch their weight.
Whereas the likes of Schurrie who is not only a luxury we cannot afford, but we are playing with ten men when he is on the pitch.
Need to get some kind of result today to stop the rot.
A team similar to this one is capable, but I prefer Tom to Seri, although currently some may say it's a tight call.
Roll on the Transfer Window, in the meantime we need stability and desperately need to pick up precious points before the Burnley match at Turf Moor.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on December 22, 2018, 01:19:00 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on December 18, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
I've seen us play without Seri on the pitch, and believe it or not, we are significantly worse. As of now, he has to play.
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan
Chambers Seri
Kamara Cairney Sessegnon
Mitrovic
Defensively? Which game?
Rico
Christie Odoi Mawson Bryan (I'd prefer MLM)
Chambers Seri Cairney Schurrle
AK47 Mitro
I don't see Seri being pulled by Claudio when we don't have a definitive replacement in the holding spot. I'm not a big fan of Johansson either. McDonald looks slow.
Wasn't Vietto a striker? Maybe play him right behind Mitro instead of AK47?
mlm for Bryan.
Find it hard to believe that anyone would play Seri ahead of Cairney. Neither is up to much defensively admittedly but Cairney one's foot is better than Seri's two. Vietto ahead of Schurrle.
Oh for a return of those days last season when the team picked itself, there are so many options for today, each one being no better than the next.
It really is time Ranieri decided on his best starting eleven amd stuck with it for a few games.
Apparently a 3-5-2 today.
Imo Christie and Byran need to focus on defense and stay back 5-3-2...hopefully keeping the first clean sheet of the season.
Gotta stop the goals from leaking in.
I knew he wouldn't drop Seri.
