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Quote from: Angus Telford on Today at 10:26:43 AMQuote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 06:45:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on April 23, 2024, 04:08:00 PMQuote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 03:05:38 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on April 23, 2024, 11:09:48 AMQuote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 12:04:31 AMTo be fair to him, he made the right choice for his career and it's worked out for him. From what I gather we took him from QPR so perhaps some of the criticism that goes his way is a little harsh
Could be perhaps you're not acknowledging the rather gross stuff he did and conflating the boo'ing to him simply leaving? I think people need to look a little more critically at this. Did Fabio and Sess get boo'd? There's a very clear reason Mr Elliot gets a hard time with us and its not because he simply signed for Liverpool.
Personally, I'm glad he seems to have matured both on and off the pitch and wish him well. But some of his behaviours were bad when he was with us.
I would say he was 15 when he played for us and 16 when he left unless I am mistaken?
I remember he did/said something but I can't remember what. Do you know?
He was young, and we all do stupid stuff, its just it was a bit more distasteful and being high profile as he is, its always worse, but racist videos with his family, selling signed shirts for charity then seemingly pocketing the money, there was domestic violence allegations too.......Just really bad stuff really. I think he made rather disparaging ableist remarks about Kane as well. I know some will just say hes young and boy will be boys and all that, but this behaviour deserves criticism. Personally, I wouldn't boo and as mentioned, I'm glad he seems to have grown up somewhat and found himself a place to grow.
I wasn't aware of any of those things
Because most of it is hearsay and/or massively exaggerated. Can guarantee 90% or more of fans have done worse in their own lives than anything Elliott actually did. Think he's a kid earning millions that did well by leaving Fulham, so just very tempting to make a villain unfortunately. With that said, a bit of booing isn't the worst thing a person can suffer.
Quote from: filham on Today at 10:10:46 AMQuote from: Somerset Fulham on April 23, 2024, 10:35:31 PMYes I am paying for BT Sport, would that have got me the Chelsea v Arsenal match.Quote from: filham on April 23, 2024, 09:56:05 PMI pay £11-99 a month for prime TV and thought that included live football. Tried to tune in to Arsenal v Chelsea and they were asking me to pay another £39-99 a month for football.
Shame I would have enjoyed seeing five goals go in the Chelsea net.
I thought you were also paying for what used to be BT Sport, Filham?
I am in need of a Grumpy Old Man's guide to TV football.
Quote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 06:45:13 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on April 23, 2024, 04:08:00 PMQuote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 03:05:38 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on April 23, 2024, 11:09:48 AMQuote from: LC on April 23, 2024, 12:04:31 AMTo be fair to him, he made the right choice for his career and it's worked out for him. From what I gather we took him from QPR so perhaps some of the criticism that goes his way is a little harsh
Could be perhaps you're not acknowledging the rather gross stuff he did and conflating the boo'ing to him simply leaving? I think people need to look a little more critically at this. Did Fabio and Sess get boo'd? There's a very clear reason Mr Elliot gets a hard time with us and its not because he simply signed for Liverpool.
Personally, I'm glad he seems to have matured both on and off the pitch and wish him well. But some of his behaviours were bad when he was with us.
I would say he was 15 when he played for us and 16 when he left unless I am mistaken?
I remember he did/said something but I can't remember what. Do you know?
He was young, and we all do stupid stuff, its just it was a bit more distasteful and being high profile as he is, its always worse, but racist videos with his family, selling signed shirts for charity then seemingly pocketing the money, there was domestic violence allegations too.......Just really bad stuff really. I think he made rather disparaging ableist remarks about Kane as well. I know some will just say hes young and boy will be boys and all that, but this behaviour deserves criticism. Personally, I wouldn't boo and as mentioned, I'm glad he seems to have grown up somewhat and found himself a place to grow.
I wasn't aware of any of those things
Quote from: Logicalman on April 23, 2024, 09:35:01 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on April 23, 2024, 09:27:37 AMDidn't he give the Qatar money to charity.....similar to Mr Lineker taking refugee's into his own home.... I think they're portrayed badly by certain area's of the media....
I can see your point, though the one thought keeps returning,"A mercenary who gives all his money to charity, is still a cold-bloodied mercenary". A couple of charitable acts by players (and ex players-truned-pundits) still is nothing like the likes of you or I giving ill-affordeable monies to charity.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on April 23, 2024, 10:35:31 PMYes I am paying for BT Sport, would that have got me the Chelsea v Arsenal match.Quote from: filham on April 23, 2024, 09:56:05 PMI pay £11-99 a month for prime TV and thought that included live football. Tried to tune in to Arsenal v Chelsea and they were asking me to pay another £39-99 a month for football.
Shame I would have enjoyed seeing five goals go in the Chelsea net.
I thought you were also paying for what used to be BT Sport, Filham?
Quote from: Super Mick on April 23, 2024, 10:58:14 PMHow we lost twice to that lot is pretty dreadful.Agree but then Arsenal dropped five poits against us.
Quote from: sunburywhite on October 17, 2023, 07:43:50 PMSo was GaleQuote from: MikeTheCubed on October 17, 2023, 05:51:46 PMPlayers with a first or last name beginning with 'Ton' seem to be at greater risk.
Macedo was ok