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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Tooting legend on July 21, 2018, 11:14:21 PM »
Our next game is the 1st August we are flying back tomorrow signings will be made then a weeks training before the game a week on Wednesday then the Celta Vigo game on the Saturday where’s the problem. People on this forum just need chill and sit back and think before opening their mouths.
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Statto on July 21, 2018, 11:12:08 PM »
I find it laughable some of the optimistic reasoning, and dismay at people getting concerned!
There were two teams on the field tonight. Did Lyon look like they didn't want to win the match? They were there to shake off the rust and gain some fitness and sharpness! Which in my mind is what we were there for.
We were awful! End of! What good came out of that game for us? Except prove were not ready!
I don't mind loosing these games, as long as we look like were in the game. And gain some of the benefits Lyon probably did.
Time is short. People get anxious and loose patience, because we are always late bringing players in!
I don't think we will fair so well having a poor first half of the season in the Premiership like we did in the Championship!
We need to hit the ground running.

dont waste your breath mate, anything other than 100% positivity will just get dismissed by the same few posters on here at the moment. what do you think this is, some kind of "forum" where you can just come on and express an opinion about FFC? Nah
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Deeping_white on July 21, 2018, 11:11:41 PM »
We played two champions league teams

30%-50% of the teams in the Premier League are as good as the two [Turkish and French!] Champions League teams we've just played. Are we happy getting spanked 3-0 and 4-0 every other game next season then? Or do you not care as long as we only lose 1-0 in the games in between?   

with essentially two of the halves with our academy players out

Er, that's our squad mate!

No doubt you’ll take the view that Joka is doing so to prove a point or because he doesn’t have any players, because you’ve been peddling that view for weeks now

Not sure I've ever said that but never mind

Lyon have a better squad than half of the premier league for Christ sake

See comment #1 above

Statto you seem to have some odd misplaced superiority complex when it comes to Fulham in that you magically expect us to beat established CL teams with a newly promoted squad. This isn’t the championship and we’re not one of the big boys yet. You try to use the point about playing academy playiers against me, but tell me, when do you expect to see 6 players under the age of 19 playing in a PL game? You’ve spent the time since your short lived hiatus from this board slagging off the club for everything imaginable, the comments you were making about the squad before the game were laughable and you seemingly topped them post game.
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by FFCSteve on July 21, 2018, 11:07:54 PM »
I find it laughable some of the optimistic reasoning and dismay at people getting concerned!
There were two teams on the field tonight. Did Lyon look like they didn't want to win the match? They were there to shake off the rust and gain some fitness and sharpness! Which in my mind is what we were there for.
We were awful! End of! What good came out of that game for us? Except prove were not ready!
I don't mind loosing these games, as long as we look like were in the game. And gain some of the benefits Lyon probably did.
Time is short. People get anxious and loose patience, because we are always late bringing players in!
I don't think we will fair so well having a poor first half of the season in the Premiership like we did in the Championship!
We need to hit the ground running.
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by St. Andrews White on July 21, 2018, 11:01:21 PM »
We went at half time 0-0 against a strong Lyon team then changes get made and things change its a training session. Take a chill pill Jesus, we’ve just made the 2 signing with more to come. Just relax. I’m seriously starting to hate the negativity on this board and it’s just a preseason game. Get a bloody grip
+1

Yes that wasn't great, but Lyon are a damn good side. We will get bodies in, but they won't all be ready for Palace.

People forget we're used to doing our business late on in August, and now we're being asked to have everything by early August. That's a big change, so to get them in for the first is in itself impressive.

Will they all have gelled by then? Of course not, but at least they'll be here.

We held our own until the youngsters came on and players made silly errors. That's what pre-season is for, to make and learn from those errors and blood through the youngsters.

People seriously need to calm down, there's 3 weeks left of the window. Some seem to think we're already relegated before a ball has been kicked!

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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by wheelerdeeler on July 21, 2018, 10:59:16 PM »
You’re so naive it’s worrying.

You think attaching high calibre players is easy? It takes time. Pre season is about fitness first and foremost.

BS. If you want to get fit you go on an exercise bike. You don't spend £100k flying the squad to Switzerland and hiring a whole hotel for a week. You go to the trouble of playing pre-season fixtures to get the team ready for competitive matches, to get them used to playing with each other. You don't achieve any of that when you send out a team half full of kids to get spanked without having an attempt on target. All we learned today is we need a lot more bodies in because those we have will get hammered by 4+ goals against 30-50% of the teams we play next year. At best today was pointless and had no effect on the team, positive or negative. At worst it was dispiriting.

There's a massive difference between being Match Fit and being "Gym Fit". Especially with a game like today we've been put through the ringer and Lyon pressed the life out of us, that can only be a good thing to prepare us for what we'll face in the Prem. First 60 minutes today I'd bet at least 5, maybe 6 start against Palace; Christie, Le Marchand/Ream, Seri, Cairney, Sessegnon. Maybe Bettinelli if Jokanovic starts him over Fabri and Le Marchand at LB and Ream at LCB depending on who else comes in.

So at least half of the team who'll start for us against Palace held a Champions League level side (a side who beat the team who finished 8th in the Prem last season twice) to a 0-0 for 60 minutes. It would be one thing if we'd gone completely backwards from a results standpoint like say losing 3-0 to Derby or 2-1 to AFC Wimbledon. But we haven't, because amazingly a Champions League level team is much better than a newly promoted one who are playing with pretty much a group of Championship players and ran away with it when said newly promoted team brought on their kids. We've got more from the game today than we would have thrashing an Austrian 5th Division team 22-0 where the Goalkeeper literally gives up and lets goals in.

We should have at least two more in for the Germany tournament next week (Fabri and Mitrovic) and then another 2-4 minimum for when we play Sampdoria and Celta Vigo. It's not been a conscious thing to stagger the Pre-Season to give our kids a proper chance, but that's where we've ended up because of how slow the market's been in general- and amazingly, it'll speed up the closer we get to the deadline (crazy, I know).
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Tooting legend on July 21, 2018, 10:59:12 PM »
Why don’t you join another forum, your stupid comments arent welcome on here. Just get a bloody grip
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Facts Not Fiction on July 21, 2018, 10:58:55 PM »
You’re so naive it’s worrying.

You think attaching high calibre players is easy? It takes time. Pre season is about fitness first and foremost.

BS. If you want to get fit you go on an exercise bike. You don't spend £100k flying the squad to Switzerland and hiring a whole hotel for a week. You go to the trouble of playing pre-season fixtures to get the team ready for competitive matches, to get them used to playing with each other. You don't achieve any of that when you send out a team half full of kids to get spanked without having an attempt on target. All we learned today is we need a lot more bodies in because those we have will get hammered by 4+ goals against 30-50% of the teams we play next year. At best today was pointless and had no effect on the team, positive or negative. At worst it was dispiriting.

Match fitness is different to fitness. The whole squad is fit. They’re footballers.

We knew we needed bodies anyway. There is no point playing small teams and learning nothing. Playing high calibre teams prepares us for the challenges next season. 
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:56:27 PM »
We played two champions league teams

30%-50% of the teams in the Premier League are as good as the two [Turkish and French!] Champions League teams we've just played. Are we happy getting spanked 3-0 and 4-0 every other game next season then? Or do you not care as long as we only lose 1-0 in the games in between?   

with essentially two of the halves with our academy players out

Er, that's our squad mate!

No doubt you’ll take the view that Joka is doing so to prove a point or because he doesn’t have any players, because you’ve been peddling that view for weeks now

Not sure I've ever said that but never mind

Lyon have a better squad than half of the premier league for Christ sake

See comment #1 above
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General Discussion / Re: Today's Game
« Last post by Statto on July 21, 2018, 10:48:06 PM »
You’re so naive it’s worrying.

You think attaching high calibre players is easy? It takes time. Pre season is about fitness first and foremost.

BS. If you want to get fit you go on an exercise bike. You don't spend £100k flying the squad to Switzerland and hiring a whole hotel for a week. You go to the trouble of playing pre-season fixtures to get the team ready for competitive matches, to get them used to playing with each other. You don't achieve any of that when you send out a team half full of kids to get spanked without having an attempt on target. All we learned today is we need a lot more bodies in because those we have will get hammered by 4+ goals against 30-50% of the teams we play next year. At best today was pointless and had no effect on the team, positive or negative. At worst it was dispiriting.
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