why not use Okaka?

[Brede Butter Pudding]

Right. Bolton away we were piss poor up front with Nevland and Elm, horrific partnership, I think our only attempt on goal was an Elm header early on and then a deflected Shorey free kick. When Okaka came on for the last 15 mins he took on about 5 players,  got passed 4, lost the ball, tracked back to the edge of our area, won it back and then won the free kick that Shorey took and was deflected over. We could have nicked it with him on there and was so much more effective than Nevland and Elm. I'm struggling to remember the opposition, but the game in which he missed that sitter of a header he was causing the defence all sorts of problems, and then recently, again can't remember the opposition, but came on and had some decent efforts which warranted a goal.

I agree about Nevland's important goals in the past and yes he has scored a number of crucial goals, but let me ask you this. Seeing Nevland come on today, did it fill you with hope that we could get a goal back and pull it bag to 1 - 1? For me Okaka would have been a far more effective option, as Nevland is just too slow and weak. However, you are completely right about Woy knowing more than any of us and I trust him to make the right decisions.

[finnster01]

Right. Bolton away we were piss poor up front with Nevland and Elm, horrific partnership, I think our only attempt on goal was an Elm header early on and then a deflected Shorey free kick. When Okaka came on for the last 15 mins he took on about 5 players,  got passed 4, lost the ball, tracked back to the edge of our area, won it back and then won the free kick that Shorey took and was deflected over. We could have nicked it with him on there and was so much more effective than Nevland and Elm. I'm struggling to remember the opposition, but the game in which he missed that sitter of a header he was causing the defence all sorts of problems, and then recently, again can't remember the opposition, but came on and had some decent efforts which warranted a goal.

I agree about Nevland's important goals in the past and yes he has scored a number of crucial goals, but let me ask you this. Seeing Nevland come on today, did it fill you with hope that we could get a goal back and pull it bag to 1 - 1? For me Okaka would have been a far more effective option, as Nevland is just too slow and weak. However, you are completely right about Woy knowing more than any of us and I trust him to make the right decisions.

We could have put on Fernando Torres today and it would have made absolutely shite of a difference.

Our midfield was more concerned about not conceding than going forward. Very negative, in fact, with that attitude not ever trying to get back in the game, why didn't Roy do a Mick McCarthy and sit the entire team in the first place. It could do with a rest. Instead we have Hangeland all messed up?

[Brede Butter Pudding]

Right. Bolton away we were piss poor up front with Nevland and Elm, horrific partnership, I think our only attempt on goal was an Elm header early on and then a deflected Shorey free kick. When Okaka came on for the last 15 mins he took on about 5 players,  got passed 4, lost the ball, tracked back to the edge of our area, won it back and then won the free kick that Shorey took and was deflected over. We could have nicked it with him on there and was so much more effective than Nevland and Elm. I'm struggling to remember the opposition, but the game in which he missed that sitter of a header he was causing the defence all sorts of problems, and then recently, again can't remember the opposition, but came on and had some decent efforts which warranted a goal.

I agree about Nevland's important goals in the past and yes he has scored a number of crucial goals, but let me ask you this. Seeing Nevland come on today, did it fill you with hope that we could get a goal back and pull it bag to 1 - 1? For me Okaka would have been a far more effective option, as Nevland is just too slow and weak. However, you are completely right about Woy knowing more than any of us and I trust him to make the right decisions.

We could have put on Fernando Torres today and it would have made absolutely s***e of a difference.

Our midfield was more concerned about not conceding than going forward. Very negative, in fact, with that attitude not ever trying to get back in the game, why didn't Roy do a Mick McCarthy and sit the entire team in the first place. It could do with a rest. Instead we have Hangeland all messed up?

Mate I completely agree with what you're saying about the midfield and resting the team, but I still feel that bringing on Okaka would have been more effective than Nevland.

And in terms of resting the team, I really think Woy should have done something similar, and actually, unlike Mick, Roy has the FA cup and Europa league to blame for fatigue and therefore given players a rest. To be honest, apart from Baird he didn't really have much option with either CB considering Smalling was unable to play, but I would have loved to have seen Bobatov, Gera, Duffer, Baird, Davies, maybe even Hughes or Hangers rested if Baird played CB, as United was never going to be a game we would get points from, and instead the players have been drained further unnecessarily. This would have been a good chance to give Okaka, Greening, Nevers, Konch a run out, maybe even Dika for match practice.

having said that, as always, Roy is the ultimate judge and he wouldn't have played players who couldn't cope with the workload.

[HatterDon]

the only way we were going to see Okaka today was if we had a two-goal lead in the 80th minute. I don't think he's rubbish, but it does my heart good to read Corky's evaluation of him as such. Why? Because it is the exact same evaluation he made last season of Zamora and Gera.

[JBH]

Because he is an attacker and Woy hates attacking away from home. God forbid we try and score

You obviously didn't goto the FC Basel away leg then  :028:

Prehaps Roy is not playing Okaka because he hasn't shown anythingto warrant a start yet, a bit like it was with Elm, we don't see him everyday in training, Roy H does.

[CorkCity]

the only way we were going to see Okaka today was if we had a two-goal lead in the 80th minute. I don't think he's rubbish, but it does my heart good to read Corky's evaluation of him as such. Why? Because it is the exact same evaluation he made last season of Zamora and Gera.

Never said it about BZ , only about his workrate and attitude last year , I still am not convinced Gera is a good player.

[epsomraver]

I can assure you Corkie that Gera is a good player!

[CorkCity]

I can assure you Corkie that Gera is a good player!

Thanks ,  :thats a wieght off my mind  :005:

[leonffc]

I can assure you Corkie that Gera is a good player!

The great thing about football is different opinions Raver. Please elaborate on what Gera brings to our team. I have said before my opinions but like to hear what other people like about him. I'm really not a fan but maybe I've become blinkered in my view

[leonffc]

Because he is an attacker and Woy hates attacking away from home. God forbid we try and score

You obviously didn't goto the FC Basel away leg then  :028:

Prehaps Roy is not playing Okaka because he hasn't shown anythingto warrant a start yet, a bit like it was with Elm, we don't see him everyday in training, Roy H does.

I was in Basel and it was a superb performance. Its a shame we didn't use the same approach in Turin. As I said on my other thread, we seem to have changed since Christmas

[FatFreddysCat]

Because he is an attacker and Woy hates attacking away from home. God forbid we try and score

You obviously didn't goto the FC Basel away leg then  :028:

Prehaps Roy is not playing Okaka because he hasn't shown anythingto warrant a start yet, a bit like it was with Elm, we don't see him everyday in training, Roy H does.

The differance with Basle, much like Citeh and Pompey in the great escape is we had to win, if we go away and actually try to win rather than bore everyone rigid we might actually pick up more points, we can hardly pick up any fewer. And dont sit on the fence Corky :dft012:

[epsomraver]

I can assure you Corkie that Gera is a good player!

The great thing about football is different opinions Raver. Please elaborate on what Gera brings to our team. I have said before my opinions but like to hear what other people like about him. I'm really not a fan but maybe I've become blinkered in my view

Gera has formed a great understanding with BZ, he is a tireless runner, he scores goals, ie Shaktar home, he covers back, when I can get to games I try to watch off the ball as well and he really works hard both on and off the ball, yes in my humble opinion and that of my missus who goes to all the games he is a credit to Fulham and he also brings experience to the team when we are in Europe having a long international career as his nations captain.

[epsomraver]

the only way we were going to see Okaka today was if we had a two-goal lead in the 80th minute. I don't think he's rubbish, but it does my heart good to read Corky's evaluation of him as such. Why? Because it is the exact same evaluation he made last season of Zamora and Gera.

Never said it about BZ , only about his workrate and attitude last year , I still am not convinced Gera is a good player.

Eat your words corkie,?

[Lighthouse]

A couple of swallows don't make a porn film any more than a great Gera performance makes Gera great. It worked well yesterday. But against other teams we need more punch up front. Gear brings to the table what he brings. Sometimes it is not much. Yesterday it was a banguet.

[epsomraver]

Sorry Mr Lighthouse to blow on your candle but Gera has been good on a lot of occasions , his link up with BZ has been superb and he never stops running, yes they all have off days but Cork city more or less said that Gera was poor all the time and that aint so!

[NogoodBoyo]

Gutless Gera.  Donkey Zamora. Mopped up Murphy.  Bumbledick Baird.  Crappy Konchesky.  No Legs-Davies. Kunta Kelly.  EtUselesseuhu.  Empty Elm.  Duffer Duff. Has-been Hangeland.  All wrong Aaron.  Switched-off Schwartzer. 
And now Okaka the Great?
We've heard it all.
Indulging ourselves in our opinions seems to have all the application, excitement and intelligence of foreplay in a leper colony. 
Nogood "can't quite put my finger on why, isit" Boyo
P.S. Thank the lordy lordy above we have nights like last night to silence the clamour - but boyo boyo, am I tired after watching the 1-3am Gol Tv replay.

[Jimpav]

Based on today's performance he's not ready for first team football yet.

He showed the worst aspects of Johnson and Zamoras game. Rummaging round in the corners instead of waiting in the box for a delivery. Plus a lack of confidence in front of goal. Roy won't forgive that miss easily.

Worth keeping on the books but needs a polish.

[HatterDon]

that's interesting, since it didn't seem like we troubled their defense in the slightest until we got Dempsey and Okaka up front. I thought he had a few good touches and his pace and strength unsettled them. Yes, his shot was wide, but at least he got into position to take it, which made him pretty much unique among those in a white shirt.

The worst aspects of Johnson and Zamora? We do relish eating our young, don't we?

[LRCN]

I thought okaka was well good when he came on, a couple of times he was out on the wing but not that often. shocking miss though.