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You couldn't make it up

Started by Buffalo76, July 03, 2013, 06:07:57 PM

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Buffalo76

Was reading an article earlier about footballers who've suffered from depression. I must admit there was a line that brought a chuckle. Ex player Clarke Carlisle , now PFA Chairman, admitted to trying to take his own life in 2001....when playing for qphahahaha !!! Lets be honest when you end up at that anal discharge of a club not only is your career at rock bottom but your life as well. He even played for Luton during his career yet it was having to wear that horrid blue and white that tipped him over the edge almost. Can you imagine how his family and friends probably disowned him for a time, the embarrassment was too much to take admitting that someone who they always followed, supported , and believed in had fallen so far down into the footballing gutter that it wasn't worth all the hassle. People I general in his home town crossing the road if they saw him approaching. The shame of it all.


EJL


Putney

You're really disgusting, Buffalo76. Don't know how anyone could joke about someone's depression.


Buffalo76

Quote from: Putney on July 03, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
You're really disgusting, Buffalo76. Don't know how anyone could joke about someone's depression.

I actually found the article an interesting read. I wasn't trying to mock the condition at all,  though I'm sure you'll say otherwise. It was purely the irony of who Clark Carlisle was with at the time in question. Put ur toys back in ur pram there there  S001.gif

Fulham76

Quote from: Putney on July 03, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
You're really disgusting, Buffalo76. Don't know how anyone could joke about someone's depression.

Bloody hell, let's not get carried away! This is clearly a dig at the jokers from Loftus Road & not someone's depression. I think you know that as well.


manxman

Calm down dears, it was a joke about QPR
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Bassey the warrior

You clearly could make it up.

domprague

There are enough jokes to make about QPR without needing to mock someone who was suicidal. Would you laugh if he was in a wheelchair? Or had cancer? I have depression and I fight it every day. It ain't funny.
You came all this way ... and you lost, and you lost.

rhyspabsolom

You can't pass this off as a joke about QPR over-sensitive lefties.
Joking about depression, suicide and mental illness is disgraceful and unacceptable.


bill taylors apprentice

Poor taste.
Don't suppose Gary Speeds family had a chuckle.

Buffalo76

Quote from: manxman on July 03, 2013, 10:36:46 PM
Calm down dears, it was a joke about QPR

Thank you sir. Someone else who understands it was purely aimed at the gutter filth and NOT aimed at mocking the condition at all.

FFC1987

Quote from: rhyspabsolom on July 03, 2013, 11:51:18 PM
You can't pass this off as a joke about QPR over-sensitive lefties.
Joking about depression, suicide and mental illness is disgraceful and unacceptable.

Not that I found it funny, as I didn't BUT you can pass it off as only the 'over sensitive lefties'. He meant it in light humour. If comedians can mock illnesses (name any and i'm sure one comedian at some point would have mocked it) then some chap on the street can. Like I said, all about taste and the nature that you took the joke. Must be tough seeing it all from that moral highground.....


Buffalo76

Quote from: Fulham76 on July 03, 2013, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: Putney on July 03, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
You're really disgusting, Buffalo76. Don't know how anyone could joke about someone's depression.

Bloody hell, let's not get carried away! This is clearly a dig at the jokers from Loftus Road & not someone's depression. I think you know that as well.



Well said sport. I actually remember hearing bout Gary Speed when i was out in the car on the Sunday. Was so shocked my stomach dropped. It was a very sad event.  Can't help feeling I'm having to justify myself now though because of a few people that didn't seem to see where my comments were aimed at - qpha ha ha ha only.

rhyspabsolom

Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2013, 08:04:10 AM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on July 03, 2013, 11:51:18 PM
You can't pass this off as a joke about QPR over-sensitive lefties.
Joking about depression, suicide and mental illness is disgraceful and unacceptable.

Not that I found it funny, as I didn't BUT you can pass it off as only the 'over sensitive lefties'. He meant it in light humour. If comedians can mock illnesses (name any and i'm sure one comedian at some point would have mocked it) then some chap on the street can. Like I said, all about taste and the nature that you took the joke. Must be tough seeing it all from that moral highground.....

Plenty of comedians make jokes about serious illness. If they do, they often use it as a shock factor in an overall bit about how sad illness is and how much it sucks. If they are laughing at someone who is ill or cheaply using that illness as a way of degrading someone else then they - too - are arseholes.
Suggested reading: Patton Oswalt on rape jokes - http://www.pattonoswalt.com/index.cfm?page=spew&id=167

And you know better than anyone how much I love being up on my high horse, you're welcome up here any time.

FFC1987

Quote from: rhyspabsolom on July 04, 2013, 01:08:32 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on July 04, 2013, 08:04:10 AM
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on July 03, 2013, 11:51:18 PM
You can't pass this off as a joke about QPR over-sensitive lefties.
Joking about depression, suicide and mental illness is disgraceful and unacceptable.

Not that I found it funny, as I didn't BUT you can pass it off as only the 'over sensitive lefties'. He meant it in light humour. If comedians can mock illnesses (name any and i'm sure one comedian at some point would have mocked it) then some chap on the street can. Like I said, all about taste and the nature that you took the joke. Must be tough seeing it all from that moral highground.....

Plenty of comedians make jokes about serious illness. If they do, they often use it as a shock factor in an overall bit about how sad illness is and how much it sucks. If they are laughing at someone who is ill or cheaply using that illness as a way of degrading someone else then they - too - are arseholes.
Suggested reading: Patton Oswalt on rape jokes - http://www.pattonoswalt.com/index.cfm?page=spew&id=167

And you know better than anyone how much I love being up on my high horse, you're welcome up here any time.

Never found the ladder up!!! Do you find southpark,family guy or even arrested development funny by any chance? You know where I'm going with this.....


jarv

I usually don't get involved in these posts but have to say, it was a JOKE. For all you PC experts, get a life. It was a comment which could have been made by any comedian anywhere. Not actually that funny but definitely not worth the criticism it received..The bit I don't condone is attacking qpr or chelsea fans (or portsmouth or leeds or millwall etc etc). They are what they are. Football fans (of a sort).
Due to PC, I can hear the mods keys rattling.
Last word. It is a very difficult skill to try to be amusing in writing. I have tried on here and failed miserably so I am very careful now. 084.gif

Stefano Okaka Chuka

I quite enjoyed it to be honest.
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domprague

Thanks for that. When I'm too depressed and anxious to do anything other than stare at the wall for a week, when I'm fighting off feelings that my wife and young children would be better off if I was dead then I'll make sure I'm not too sensitive or PC to have a belly laugh at your joke.

The whole point of depression is that it has nothing to do with where you work or how much money you have. It's an illness. Your joke was like saying, 'Blimey, the bloke plays for QPR and earns a fortune - how could he have got cancer?'

Mods - if there was a racist joke about a black QPR or Chelsea player would you allow it?

People who say 'Oh, get off your high horse and stop being so PC' - would you feel the same if it happened to you? Course not. That's why you fell able to make jokes because you have no idea what it is like.

Meantime, try reading these:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/02/the-secret-footballer-players-depression
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/11/27/depression-and-mental-illness-in-football/
http://thefaithfulmufc.com/2010/12/17/alan-davies-a-sad-loss-to-the-world-of-football/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/michael-yardy-depression-left-me-a-zombie-97248
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12860916
You came all this way ... and you lost, and you lost.


Logicalman

Dom, and others that have taken some offence to this thread ....

Please, just lighten the load a little. Its got to be obvious that the poster didn't men to offend those that fight depression, or family members that have suffered as a result, in any way, so why the pack of hyenas routine?

If you don't like a thread you have three choices:
Firstly, ignore it. If you cannot ignore it, then complain to a Mod, if that doesn't float your boat then thirdly, and I wish more people would avoid this, reply to the thread and start an argument.

Personally, I try to the the first option, as complaining to myself gets me nowhere it seems, though I am also guilty of the third option at times, and so I can empathyse with those that find this distasteful and have ranted as such.

This isn't a bitch at any leftist, rightist, or centralist, or those on high horses or rocking horses, or who live in glass houses, green houses or the parliamentary ones either. (did I miss anyone?)


FFC1987

QPR fans. I'm pretty sure they were offended. :)