Cardiff City won't allow the national anthem to be played at the play-offs...

[ImperialWhite]

p.s. Not trying to jump down your throat or anything, it's just that I think the prem is more English than it's given credit for.

[flynny]

Yes i know your right imperial white it would have ruined my point realy.

[os5889]

I thought it was quite clear personally.

I'll be honest it reads like gibberish and I have no idea where you are from or the real point of the post, it reads like an anti taff (welsh), scot (skirt wearing) and english (labour party led by Tony Blair-an englishman) rant.

[os5889]

In addition, I am welsh and do not hate England. I just feel that God Save The Queen is not my anthem

[flynny]

Tony blair born Edinburgh educated edinburgh i call that scottish i did go on a rant yes its so easy on a computer i must think things through more clearly.I have family in abertillary wales.And paternal grandmother from mountain ash. i just commented on the the experiences i have had, I like wales as a place and had many good times there.Nothing personal.Is it wrong to call someone welsh taff bit sensitive if you take it wrong way.

[alfie]

well my opinion for what it's worth. If it is an England team playing then we should not play the National Anthem, we should play either Land of Hope and Glory,  or  Jerusalem.

If it is an all British affair then the National Anthem is correct.

[epsomraver]

The real problem is that the English race has lost it's  identity,  you cannot be English, try putting that down on a travel visa, we have no parliament of our own , all the others have theirs, supported by handouts from us,

[os5889]

The real problem is that the English race has lost it's  identity,  you cannot be English, try putting that down on a travel visa, we have no parliament of our own , all the others have theirs, supported by handouts from us,

I agree with this, and also the point of land of hope and glory and Jerusalem being a great idea for an english anthem. They are great songs that are quintessetinally english.
Also, I cant stand nationalist politicians preaching how their countries people needs more money than anothers. Whilst we are centrally governed Alex Salmond and whatever the hell person who leads the Plaid Cymru are should shut up and get on with it, how anyone can have the cheek to demand more taxpayers money than another I do not know!

[alfie]

And of course i think that God save the Queen is extremly boring, i am afraid it is not very insperational.
Flower of Scotland is so uplifting even i can't help joining in and i am totaly English.

[LBNo11]

...alfie, I totally agree that God Save The Queen is totally un-inspirational and hearkens back to a colonial age when Britain had an empire, the words are meaningless, but that is all we have.

If you changed the national anthem would it become a British national anthem or are we allowed an English national anthem without it being labled jingoistic.

'Flower of Scotland' and the Welsh 'Land Of My Fathers' are uplifting and inspirational anthems that portray two nations that indicate a separate culture and identity to England; it is a shame that the English cannot have a truly meaningful anthem; but I think that that will never happen as the words would have to be written in such a way that there could be no connotations of past glories or hopes for the future as England has been 'swallowed up' by the United Kingdom/Britain and has lost its individual identity.

Anyway I have hi-jacked my own thread and am demanding it be flown to Cuba - now what is the national anthem of Cuba.. :022:

[FatFreddysCat]

...alfie, I totally agree that God Save The Queen is totally un-inspirational and hearkens back to a colonial age when Britain had an empire, the words are meaningless, but that is all we have.

If you changed the national anthem would it become a British national anthem or are we allowed an English national anthem without it being labled jingoistic.

'Flower of Scotland' and the Welsh 'Land Of My Fathers' are uplifting and inspirational anthems that portray two nations that indicate a separate culture and identity to England; it is a shame that the English cannot have a truly meaningful anthem; but I think that that will never happen as the words would have to be written in such a way that there could be no connotations of past glories or hopes for the future as England has been 'swallowed up' by the United Kingdom/Britain and has lost its individual identity.

Anyway I have hi-jacked my own thread and am demanding it be flown to Cuba - now what is the national anthem of Cuba.. :022:

Just of the top of my head i'd say the Cuban National anthem is El Himno De bayamo  :dft011:

[os5889]

Back to the anthem subject, I do love the South African and Irish rugby anthems both examples of uniting nations and people that I most loves! :045:

[FatFreddysCat]

Back to the anthem subject, I do love the South African and Irish rugby anthems both examples of uniting nations and people that I most loves! :045:

A programme on now, about how a child is raped every 3 minutes in South Africa. lovely people.

[CorkedHat]

Back to the anthem subject, I do love the South African and Irish rugby anthems both examples of uniting nations and people that I most loves! :045:

A programme on now, about how a child is raped every 3 minutes in South Africa. lovely people.

And how Capetown has more murders per annum than New York and Chicago put together. And we're worried about our Commonwealth Games competitors going to India.
Mind you one look at Rooney's boat race and it will frighten a Zulu.