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Offline HillingdonFFC

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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2017, 10:41:27 AM »
I don't disagree with investment in the future either, HillingdonFFC.  Perhaps it should have been done years ago even before the Riverside Stand was put up.  A little more 'future' thought and investment expenditure may have got the original plan absolutely right by considering how much better the ground would have been for everybody with full enclosure on three sides save for the constraints of planning permission and consent which also has to take into account the views of local residents.   Craven Cottage is unique which is both its charisma and its challenge.   It isn't simply about having loads of seats - it is how you get the bums on those seats. 


Years before the Riverside was put up Fulham were offered Blakes Woodyard for a pittance, my dads uncle was a foreman there for 30years. Trinder said no, even the woodyard people were saying to him about parking, training facilities, offices etc but still ,in a criminal lack of foresight he wasnt interested.
In my opinion its easier to put bums on seats than build them ,especially for a club situated where we are. We've spent the last three soon to be four seasons outside the premier league & our crowds have held up pretty well, think we've just had more attendances in excess of 20k for a season outside the top flight since the 50s.
Plan ahead , we've got a chairman who is worth billions, if hes truly committed, this stand & even further potential expansions down the line are an absolute necessity .
Or we just sit back & meander along content with our lot as weve done for long periods of our history

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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2017, 04:09:59 PM »
Last I remember reading was that Thomas Heatherwick was being lined up to look at the design. I think this is a double-edged sword. He did a good job on the Olympics cauldron and a cafe in Littlehampton and could potentially design a fantastic new stand, but if he redesigns the outside of the proposed stand, we might have to apply for planning permission all over again (probably another 2 years and loads of expense) whereas we have already started technically implementing the one we have got planning permission for. I'd rather he confined himself to the inside and we crack on to the one we have consent for.

Offline copthornemike

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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2017, 04:28:07 PM »
More important we get the right qualiity development which is on cost and on time than get it quick - so if the Heatherwick intervention causes a delay for the right reasons so be it.

However would be good if the Board would reiterate their intentions now otherwise all sorts of rumours will inevitably proliferate.

After this season's near miss the Board must be aware that with the right support to SJ the Premiership is a realistic and achievable ambition for the club.

As supporters we can expect the similarly realistic, timely and ambitious vision and direction from the Board for the club's future.


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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2017, 06:00:49 PM »
For the last season there were 5 clubs with smaller capacities than ours.
Hull                       25,586
Burnley                 21,401
Watford                21,368
Swansea               21,088
Bournemouth        11,464

Two others are onle slightly higher

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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2017, 07:18:08 PM »
For the last season there were 5 clubs with smaller capacities than ours.
Hull                       25,586
Burnley                 21,401
Watford                21,368
Swansea               21,088
Bournemouth        11,464

Two others are onle slightly higher

Size isn´t everything , it is what you do with it.

That's what she said last night.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 05:06:34 AM by Woolly Mammoth »
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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2017, 08:14:34 PM »
Folks, please, It ain't gonna happen. Never was.


Offline AlexW132

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Re: Riverside development all forgotten.
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2017, 08:58:28 PM »
The fact of the matter is, if you're a big club in the Prem then redevelopment is never really a risk as you're never going to be in danger on the field, or in financial difficulties off it. Whereas for a club that is a) either a Prem side at risk of relegation or b) a C'ship side fighting for promotion, it's a big risk to take allocating a large amount of money to something that isn't ultimately going to improve your on the field performance. If you're at any risk of relegation, if it does happen and you're doing developing, all of a sudden you have a much lower disposable income due to lower revenues, partly due to less TV money and partly due to lower gates, a large portion of which must be allocated to investing in the squad. If you're fighting for promotion, yes a bigger capacity would pay off if you got to the Prem. However, if you failed to go up and you'd already started pumping money into this new development, which could require a reduced capacity while it's built therefore less ticket revenue, and your best players leave and require replacing, suddenly you're in the financial mire. So it's a moderate risk to take at this stage, when, let's face it, we're not averaging much more than 20000 a game, part of which is away fans.
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