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Offline grandad

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Divers to be suspended
« on: May 19, 2017, 07:41:12 AM »
Players who dive in English football will face bans from next season under new Football Association regulations.

Under the new rules, passed by the governing body at its annual general meeting on Thursday, a panel will review footage each Monday looking for cases of simulation.

Any player unanimously found guilty of diving would be given a suspension.

This will only apply where a dive results in a penalty being awarded or an opposition player is sent off after a red card or 2 yellows.

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 08:10:19 AM »
Players who dive in English football will face bans from next season under new Football Association regulations.

Under the new rules, passed by the governing body at its annual general meeting on Thursday, a panel will review footage each Monday looking for cases of simulation.

Any player unanimously found guilty of diving would be given a suspension.

This will only apply where a dive results in a penalty being awarded or an opposition player is sent off after a red card or 2 yellows.

Well there are a number of players, & we know who they are, will have their wings clipped.
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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2017, 08:44:05 AM »
Why is it limited to those situations? That way they still get the advantage on the pitch even if they do get suspemded for it.


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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2017, 09:27:58 AM »
Why is it limited to those situations? That way they still get the advantage on the pitch even if they do get suspemded for it.

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2017, 09:34:52 AM »
Uefa tried this before and it failed dismally, Arsenal took  it to the court of arbitration of Eduardo I belive (he went down against Celtic) they argued how do you know what he was thinking of at the time and they won!!

My rule of thumb is if there is no contact and a player appeals then he has dived, those a clear punishable cases. But if there is any form of touch i tihnk it will get contentious, players moving at rapid speeds like Hazard, Zaha etc they will not need as much contact to go down as others due to that speed, so what may not be a pen for osme could well be for them. It will be a nightmare. I agree with it in principal but think it could be a whole can of worms
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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2017, 09:40:28 AM »
This directed to the tosses mate and Sargent fulham,
They really can only do it this way otherwise it would constantly disrupt the flow of play in games. Hence it will take time for the players to feel the effect . I'm all for it and it will be the best way to deal with it.
I'm very confident over a short period of time the message will get through. It's reached epidemic proportions now and severely needs to be roped in, dare I say it even one or two of our own are guilty of it.
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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2017, 09:48:21 AM »
I hate diving. Its just one of those things that I don't know how a player can bring himself to do it.

The thing is, it is clearly practised.

The problem I see is that in some countries it is considered an accepted skill.

I've lost track of time but remember clearly watching European games when the other team would engage in it and our commentators and players would be up in arms. We then just slowly started doing it.

FIFA never stepped in.

I am not against us taking the lead but fear we run the risk of going back to the old days if we become a nation that doesn't dive and everyone else does.


On a completely separate issue. I watched one of the play off games last night and 2 players went for a 50:50 ball. One guy went in properly, the other didn't, resulting in the more committed guy getting advantage but, guess what? the ref deemed it a foul.

I saw a replay and it was the sort of challenge that used to be greeted with encouragement it deserved. One player basically being more committed than the other.
The fact that in our tier 4 of football, that is now a foul is a sad indication of the state of the game. Don't get me wrong, I love beautiful football. Passing technical football is what I love but taking the art of tackling out of the game has changed it and continues to turn it into a slightly different sport.

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2017, 09:58:30 AM »
I'm very confident over a short period of time the message will get through. It's reached epidemic proportions now and severely needs to be roped in, dare I say it even one or two of our own are guilty of it.

But the actual goal scored from the play acting may still mean points in the bank for a team concerned.  Why not make the clubs responsible by deducting points (let's say five) from them?  That way you actually may see reform happening so fast it'll be like fresh air.

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 10:06:02 AM »
You make a good point, BedsFFC.  I watched both League Two play off games last night, switching between them, and thought they were first rate entertainment.  If only you could get the message through to the authorities that it is the spirit of the game that must be allowed to thrive and not the filthy lucre.


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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 10:25:28 AM »
There will be a situation where referees won't give the decisions but will wait until the Monday. When malone was booked for diving in the play off game he made the mistake of over elaborating when he threw his arms in the air before going down. In reality nobody does that who is deliberately fouled. I hope it works but I fear it might not

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 10:26:05 AM »
Yes it is a difficult situation if a goal results from a cheat. But the big thing to do is big suspensions - these players can all afford the fines nowadays but hey,and their clubs want them playing, like I said it will take a little while to sink in, but I think it will.

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 10:29:50 AM »
There will be a situation where referees won't give the decisions but will wait until the Monday. When malone was booked for diving in the play off game he made the mistake of over elaborating when he threw his arms in the air before going down. In reality nobody does that who is deliberately fouled. I hope it works but I fear it might not
i actually htought he was booked for what happened after that as he got really verbal with the ref
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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 10:40:11 AM »
Malone was booked for backchat after the incident.  I thought there was contact when he went down but the theatricals probably detracted from his chances of starring in "The Golden Wet Suit"

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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 10:47:21 AM »
I am in the penalty area. I see somebody about lunge at me with no control. I jump and go over. Penalty given. Then a few months later I am done for diving because the contact never happened and I don't belong to a big club. I can see this being problematic to say the least.
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Re: Divers to be suspended
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 11:31:28 AM »
I am in the penalty area. I see somebody about lunge at me with no control. I jump and go over. Penalty given. Then a few months later I am done for diving because the contact never happened and I don't belong to a big club. I can see this being problematic to say the least.

And I am absolutely certain you are going to be proven right.