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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #120 on: February 04, 2018, 08:43:22 AM »
Can tell how crazy the Villa form has been when they're projected to overtake Wolves.

The key game of the season if we want to aim for second.
the avg of projections shows that they should finish 2nd. I'm finind that avg is a good indicator of where a team is going.

Problem we have for 2nd is currently we need 36 points from 48 max.
In our last 16 games we have got 32 points.

I don't see 2nd as a realistic ambition (nice to dream however). But 3rd or 4th would be good as it would guarantee we play our second leg at home and are up against a 5th or 6th place team who are more likely to have been on a relatively shaky run of late season form.  I'd be very pleased with that.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #121 on: February 04, 2018, 08:51:27 AM »
Good point Twig!!

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #122 on: February 04, 2018, 08:55:14 AM »
Can tell how crazy the Villa form has been when they're projected to overtake Wolves.

The key game of the season if we want to aim for second.
the avg of projections shows that they should finish 2nd. I'm finind that avg is a good indicator of where a team is going.

Problem we have for 2nd is currently we need 36 points from 48 max.
In our last 16 games we have got 32 points.
I hope Joka is telling them that we must do better!! I would settle for another 27 points from the last 16 games, 9 wins and 7 losses, that is achievable.


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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #123 on: February 04, 2018, 10:10:31 AM »
Can tell how crazy the Villa form has been when they're projected to overtake Wolves.

The key game of the season if we want to aim for second.
the avg of projections shows that they should finish 2nd. I'm finind that avg is a good indicator of where a team is going.

Problem we have for 2nd is currently we need 36 points from 48 max.
In our last 16 games we have got 32 points.
I hope Joka is telling them that we must do better!! I would settle for another 27 points from the last 16 games, 9 wins and 7 losses, that is achievable.

Must do better?? Gosh Dave you're a hard task master! But I get where you are coming from.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #124 on: February 04, 2018, 10:59:11 AM »
Great. A really good analasis at this stage. It takes me minutes to reply. A little longer to get my head around the figures. However it a very time consuming for you and as the above replies indicate Very Much Appreciated by all and sundry.

Thank you MJG

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #126 on: February 18, 2018, 07:00:08 PM »





First time we have been ahead of 6th in projections.




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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #127 on: February 19, 2018, 03:19:26 AM »
33 points is going to be hard to get.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #128 on: February 19, 2018, 07:59:52 AM »
How we have turned a -9 point gap to 2nd to a +2 gap.

Also a -17 gap to 2nd to a -6 gap. Its taken 12 games to reduce those gaps even with the form we are in (29 points from 12 games).

Takes time to chase down those points



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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #129 on: February 19, 2018, 09:07:23 AM »
Looking at second spot competition for a moment Cardiff still have to produce almost 2 points per game (i.e. minimum win one, draw one for every two games) and so, as with everyone other than Wolves any two defeats together are going to do a lot of damage needing four consecutive wins to repair.  I still believe positions two to six are up for grabs to whoever can keep unbeaten and avoid more than the occasional drawn games. 

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #130 on: February 19, 2018, 10:09:39 AM »
Looking at second spot competition for a moment Cardiff still have to produce almost 2 points per game (i.e. minimum win one, draw one for every two games) and so, as with everyone other than Wolves any two defeats together are going to do a lot of damage needing four consecutive wins to repair.  I still believe positions two to six are up for grabs to whoever can keep unbeaten and avoid more than the occasional drawn games.
Could do with a week where we win and the teams in 2/3/4 all lose. Then even I might start to think 2nd is possible.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #131 on: February 19, 2018, 06:41:09 PM »
Looking at second spot competition for a moment Cardiff still have to produce almost 2 points per game (i.e. minimum win one, draw one for every two games) and so, as with everyone other than Wolves any two defeats together are going to do a lot of damage needing four consecutive wins to repair.  I still believe positions two to six are up for grabs to whoever can keep unbeaten and avoid more than the occasional drawn games.
Could do with a week where we win and the teams in 2/3/4 all lose. Then even I might start to think 2nd is possible.
Yes, that's why your excellent analyses in recent weeks have been depressing me! They starkly illustrate the severity of the challenge for automatic promotion.


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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #132 on: February 19, 2018, 06:44:59 PM »
We cannot really think about 2nd place until we have played Sheffield Wednesday. All the matches before that will be tough.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2018, 08:58:35 AM »
Still holding out for 2nd?
Well in last 13 games (a great run we all agree) we have achieved 30 points.
If we repeated that over last 13 games we would have 86 points. Less than the average needed and less than Cardiff currently have targeted.
Possible yes. But highly unlikely.
Our great end of season run last season got us 27 from 13, so to expect to better that would be a very tough ask given the run we still have.


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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #135 on: February 22, 2018, 09:16:16 AM »
Travelling in hope now, not expectation.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #136 on: February 22, 2018, 09:23:55 AM »
Let’s hope we can at least get a play off place, then even finish third so that our second leg match is at home. But I still haven’t given up on second place either, because I never give in, and neither should Fulham.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2018, 09:27:05 AM »
Still holding out for 2nd?
Well in last 13 games (a great run we all agree) we have achieved 30 points.
If we repeated that over last 13 games we would have 86 points. Less than the average needed and less than Cardiff currently have targeted.
Possible yes. But highly unlikely.
Our great end of season run last season got us 27 from 13, so to expect to better that would be a very tough ask given the run we still have.
I think this team can do better than last season's run in.   We are much more solid and together but everything depends on factors like injuries, suspensions etc., the great unknowns.  I am not expecting anything other than a lot of the unexpected. 

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2018, 02:04:06 PM »
 We're 6 points off 10th place ! Could be 3pts by kick off on Saturday, let's forget all this nonsense about 2nd and concentrate on securing a play off place,
The upcoming games against Sheffield United, Preston and Brentford are massive, 7 points or 9 from those three games will really set our stall out for the play offs, two defeats in those 3 games and we face an uphill struggle.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #139 on: February 25, 2018, 12:10:37 PM »
Anyone else continually re checking to see if this page has been updated yet???