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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2017, 09:57:19 AM »
Thanks for this sensible, rational and balanced info and accompanying comments. Very useful.

Thanks, just try to put the facts out there as they stand and be a bit balanced in my views on them, even if I tend to be more on the hopeful side rather than all doom and gloom as many see it.
While we have a chance I'll pretty much always say its possible.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2017, 08:31:34 AM »
Been looking at all of the 14 fixtures this season and the first 14 last season.

As we can all see its virtually a carbon copy of last season. An example are these stats.

2016 of the 8 sides we had played above us the record was P8 W3 D2 L3 Pts 11
in 2017 of the 8 sides we had played above us the record is P8 W2 D5 L1 Pts 11

2016 of the 6 sides we had played below us the record was P6 W1 D4 L1 Pts 7
in 2017 of the 6 sides we had played below us the record is P6 W2 D2 L2 Pts 8


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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2017, 01:55:51 PM »
Saying all that we are getting to the point where I always say the table is the table and it wont change much.
Also we cant allow a gap of more than 6 points to build. At halfway point last year we were 4 behind 6th and had to be best team in league for next 23 games. Even I dont see us being able to do that again two years in a row.

Think this is the crucial point, and very depressing... next two games against 4th and 2nd and if we don’t take 3 pts off at least one of them I think that dreaded 6 pts gap you mention will have ppen d up

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2017, 03:48:56 PM »
Another stat...know you love em.

Over last 8 seasons of the 48 teams who finished in the top 6 32 were in the top 6 at 14 games, 2 thirds.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2017, 06:33:11 PM »

We can all discuss these very impressive stats, but the simple fact is that our next four marches are against four of the real form teams in the Championship.

We will either rise to the challenge or slip back to to only having to fight Brentford and QPR for the local crown.


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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
Now do I post the latest data or will it upset some of you?

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2017, 02:16:24 PM »
Now do I post the latest data or will it upset some of you?

Do it. Its the way it is, no use hiding :(

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2017, 06:00:20 PM »
This will be the last projection until (or if) we are back to a 6 pt gap which I believe is the max we could allow. We are at 7 so hence the target is for me out of reach.
Even tho the way the table is 75 pts is still a reachable target. A contradiction I know, but it's now more unlikely than last season.












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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2017, 06:30:59 PM »
Did this paperwork fall out of the back of Klines trouser back sky rocket.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2017, 10:30:37 AM »
I'm back....its 6 points to 6th (lets just ignore Derby with their game in hand. Points achived is what matters)

Images below are

- Championship Table projections and form
- Gaps to 6th and 2nd (although should really take 2nd out)
- Projected graph for 6th (Derbys figure) and Fulham

Then the table as its stands now and same time last year. two points off where they were last season.
Oddly looking at projections now, 78 points is needed or 6th place.
Another 55 for us.
We got exactly 55 from 28 last season.
Can lightning strike twice?













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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2017, 11:51:03 AM »
Its time we won six in a row again, it’s well overdue. The next five are all winnable ( famous last words), but we can at least get through them unbeaten, with maybe at least one clean sheet amongst them.
But it’s time the team put in a shift over this five match period, and then all this paper work can be filed in the waste bin.  086.gif

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2017, 11:59:50 AM »
Great post MJG. Thank you. How about a seat on the board as Stats Man. We could do a lot worse and your communication skills with all staff would go a long way to bolster morale to everyone concerned.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2017, 10:43:22 PM »
As things stand at 19 games







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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2017, 12:01:27 AM »
As things stand at 19 games







Kinda just goes to show how pointless all these statistics are as the teams form keeps changing means so does the forecast,  leading to all the ones that came before being rendered redundant.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2017, 12:22:34 AM »
Pointless is the ideal word General.
I know it’s done in good faith, and is meant well, and takes a bit of effort and an eye for detail to put together, and is harmless if not taken seriously, and I don’t want to sound ungrateful .
But as you say, as the form changes, as does the forecast. It’s meaningless and pointless.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2017, 03:36:22 AM »
The point these stats make is that the season is still there for Fulham is our form can just improve.  For me our no1 issue this season has been the lack of a consistent team, largely through injury and particularly to 2 of our most important players in Cairney and now Johansen who is playing with a grown problem.  Whilst our summer recruitment has been poor, thanks goodness we got Norwood who has provided decent cover, however our midfield engine room is still not what it was last season.  If we can get this sorted, keep most players fit, including Ojo. Be able to play Sess up front with Ojo and one other, we could go on a run that will see us very much in the mix.   Still loads to play for but we need to get our best team on the pitch. Oremthe majority of the rest of the season.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2017, 04:23:24 AM »
I don’t think we need an update on stats to tell us where we are, it’s plainly obvious, it’s staring us right in the face.
A poor build up on and off the pitch preseason for all reasons I have mentioned on another thread.
Yes of course there is still hope if we are relying on luck and a healthy run, but where is the evidence to suggest that will happen.
We cannot rely on hope and luck alone.

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Re: 2017-18 Champtionship Projected table, form, gaps and pts needed
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2017, 07:48:48 AM »
I don’t think we need an update on stats to tell us where we are, it’s plainly obvious, it’s staring us right in the face.
A poor build up on and off the pitch preseason for all reasons I have mentioned on another thread.
Yes of course there is still hope if we are relying on luck and a healthy run, but where is the evidence to suggest that will happen.
We cannot rely on hope and luck alone.


Again I agree with some of this, especially the crap pre-season, I could not understand why we played who we did, made no sense. All teams need luck, especially with injuries.  Why is it stupid to hope we don't have too many injuries to key players ?