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Offline MikeW

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International football
« on: October 11, 2017, 08:21:57 PM »
I've never held much of a torch for international football.  As an Englander I find the whole 'optimism' spectical (or lack of it) a total turn off.

Week to week football keeps it going for me and I shudder how the manager monitors his mobile on the whereabouts and injuries of his squad.

These international breaks are massively dispruptive in terms of team performance at our level and upwards.

What do others feel?
 
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Offline Woolly Mammoth

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Re: International football
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 09:08:35 PM »
I feel that the League program is an interruption of International Football, and fortunately the next break is coming soon in November I am to understand. 👍⚽️
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Offline NewYorkYank

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Re: International football
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 09:20:00 PM »
I suspect a lot of torches went out all over the U.S.


Offline cottage expat

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Re: International football
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 09:23:30 PM »
I enjoy both. Despite the upheaval it causes, international football does bring a different dimension to the game.

Offline Lighthouse

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Re: International football
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 10:48:56 PM »
Said many times before that International football no longer holds any interest to me and unless a Fulham player is involved I don't care. It feels old fashioned and just boring now. I don't know half the players who turn up for England yet could happily name the England squads during the 60s through to the 80s.

Nothing to feel proud at and the sooner we stop the pointless flag waving the better.

It would make more sense if we had league 11s playing each other.
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Offline Woolly Mammoth

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Re: International football
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 10:56:34 PM »
I enjoy both. Despite the upheaval it causes, international football does bring a different dimension to the game.

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Offline Mokes

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Re: International football
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 04:13:55 AM »
In a world that is becoming increasingly divided and poo. International sport is pretty much the main thing that brings countries and people in general together, and being the number 1 sport in the world (sorry Americans, but it is) international football is hugely important.

I get that a lot of Englishmen seem to feel some divine right to success and are constantly annoyed that the England side rarely fail to disappoint, but that is completely missing the point of the whole thing. The fact that English fans feel no sense of pride these days is more to do with the FA and English culture then the value of International football. If England were not as terrible as they have been the last 10 years, I'm sure there would be a hugely different feeling towards it.

For the sake of disrupting a domestic teams momentum, its absolutely worth having the international breaks in football. Every team has the same week off, so it's up to the coaches to have their players ready to go.

The mild inconvenience of not getting to watch your domestic team for a few weekends a year is more then repaid by the big shows. The vibe an atmosphere around the world cup, and the various continental cups are brilliant and the most fun and unifying events on the calendar.  Even when I was living in Canada, a country where "Soccer" sits somewhere in between Basketball and Lacrosse in terms of team sport popularity, Every pub with TV's in the city was rammed full expats from everywhere during the Euros last year.

The potential injury that comes from internationals is the main worry, but it also gives a lot of players an added incentive to play their absolute best for their club teams to try and get selected for their national team (to play well for their national team and end up hopefully finding a better contract at a bigger club).

Offline Slaphead in Qatar

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Re: International football
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 04:19:24 AM »
I don’t care about international football now, and neither do many England players.

Offline Carborundum

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Re: International football
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 07:08:34 AM »
The magic of international football for me was every four years a month of televised football in an age when there was scant live TV coverage, with the European tournament a decent "filler" halfway through the wait to the next World Cup.  It hasn't really changed much, but the world around it certainly has, with televised live football practically a commodity now.  Bit like having salmon for tea really. If you'd told me forty years ago just how accessible it would become, I'd have been gobsmacked and imagining utopia.   
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Re: International football
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 08:16:21 AM »
Having seen the '66 World Cup win, the magnificent side we had in '70', the '86 Hand of God the '90 semi and the 96 semi I feel I need a break from internationals now. Some of the nonsense spouted by coaches after a really lame showing, talking platitudes of drivel, I find insulting. I have sympathy for the England players, I really wonder what is said to them when training or just before they take to the pitch. I read that when asked about England's poor showing against Iceland last summer Hodgson said recently, 'I think the players froze....'  emm.     fp.gif :doh:   :022: :58:

Don't get me wrong I want to see the national side well. I used to enjoy internationals. I always watch the games but the last one by half time I had had enough. 



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Offline toshes mate

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Re: International football
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 08:58:18 AM »
It is the clubs with money and the richer players who now dominate the game of football with 'live' supporters marginalized both by the cost of watching and a media dominance since they are holding the purse strings of revenue to keep the largesse within the game at an all time high.  I see little difference in the product of International football and games at top tier league level with outcomes often being too predictable when football should always be a serious level playing field competition in which the inevitable happens only as often as reasoned chance allows.  That is why I enjoyed the Wales v Rep of Ireland game which could have gone either way.  I also like watching youth games where players are not yet so well versed in the cynical arts and crafts or too frightened to express themselves.  I don't much care for the International 'holiday' idea but the alternative is postponements for teams losing players and so either way we put the league games on hold.   The game is where it is and I am just grateful I have had the opportunity in my lifetime to see so many great players in the flesh without needing bucket-loads of filthy lucre to fuel my love for footie.   

Football needs to break the stranglehold the media and richer clubs have on it and get fans back through the turnstiles prepared to watch any game as long as it is a good one.

Offline mrmicawbers

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Re: International football
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 08:58:48 AM »
Easy to get a football fix these days.Different in years passed when all you could get was the big match and match of the day.You could also watch England games and the European games on the box.I used to watch these avidly getting behind any British club. Hasn't got that appeal to me anymore. Only interested in Fulham.Weirdly prefer watching England at Cricket and Rugby probably as it has not been over exposed Yet.


Offline Tabby

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Re: International football
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 09:47:48 AM »
A lot of the problems with international footie come across as people just being disillusioned that England aren't performing well. Especially when people are lifting up the 60's as a golden age for international football. It was just as pointless back then.

This wouldn't even be a discussion if England had won anything in the last 50 years. It is a mix of entitlement and mediocre results. Like Arsenal or Liverpool fans.

Offline Neil D

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Re: International football
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 11:59:44 AM »
People complain that they have fallen out of love with league football because they are a bunch of 'over-paid mercenaries' which is understandable but at least international players are not motivated by money since I think the fees are minimal in comparison.  Unfortunately, it rarely makes the game more entertaining but when you see tiny Iceland qualifying and the improvement in self-esteem that is generated in these smaller nations when they achieve a modicum of success ('Maggie Thatcher, your boys took one helluva of a beating') one has to warm to international competition. 

Offline cmg

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Re: International football
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 12:36:26 PM »
As it was the England team that delivered the greatest moment of my sporting experience, it would be churlish of me to forsake them when they are going through a brief (51 year) fallow patch.
Who else could I support anyway? 'Vamos, vamos Argentina' doesn't really cut it for me.
Sure they are currently devoid of real world class talent and play with all the flair and excitement to be expected of a team coached by Gareth Southgate but, it seems to me, I am stuck with it.
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