Author Topic: Goodbye Italy!  (Read 1345 times)

Offline JoelH5

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Goodbye Italy!
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:18:18 PM »
It was great to watch the last few moments with the Swedes drawing out every foul,  rolling about the floor.... ohh the sweet, sweet irony.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 10:39:38 PM »
 092.gif  They just did not seem like they were going to score tonight. Sweden's time-wasting was so Bolton-esk.
Funny old game!   096.gig

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:02:56 PM »
Can't believe people would rather have boring Sweden in the world cup, very strange...


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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 11:17:00 PM »
Can't believe people would rather have boring Sweden in the world cup, very strange...

The Swedish people may disagree with you there.
Plus have you seen their women lately.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 11:54:32 PM »
It has been said many times but 'funny old game'. I can remember at several of the early coaching courses I went on the wannabes turned up in the blue Italia tops with the collar and the coaches and mentors waxed lyrically about the Dutch system.

What next I wonder?  Have to say I am liking the injection of youth into the tired and stale English system.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 12:21:34 AM »
Over here, the consensus team that should miss the tournament rather than Italy is England.


I don't agree with the consensus.


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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 02:24:15 AM »
Wow - a World Cup without both Italy and the Netherlands.. Never thought I'd see it.

Sweden effectively knocked both out as well!

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 06:43:39 AM »
Next step is hopefully effectively Fulham FC. Something I would like to see already against Derby.

COYWs!

Offline JoelH5

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 09:10:01 AM »
Over here, the consensus team that should miss the tournament rather than Italy is England.


I don't agree with the consensus.

Why should England miss out? We qualified... properly, not through the playoffs like Italy couldn’t even manage.

See you guys in 2022, if you make that one ;)


Offline JoelH5

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 09:11:34 AM »
Wow - a World Cup without both Italy and the Netherlands.. Never thought I'd see it.

Sweden effectively knocked both out as well!

Netherlands have been poor for years. They also missed out on Euro 2016

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 09:59:10 AM »
It has been said many times but 'funny old game'. I can remember at several of the early coaching courses I went on the wannabes turned up in the blue Italia tops with the collar and the coaches and mentors waxed lyrically about the Dutch system.

What next I wonder?  Have to say I am liking the injection of youth into the tired and stale English system.

I wonder if that's a result of the St George's Park initiative.

Offline colinwhite

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 11:01:59 AM »
As an brit living in sweden i can say that it was quite an achievement for the Swedes. Not many of their starting eleven would get into our Side.


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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 12:22:54 PM »
It has been said many times but 'funny old game'. I can remember at several of the early coaching courses I went on the wannabes turned up in the blue Italia tops with the collar and the coaches and mentors waxed lyrically about the Dutch system.

What next I wonder?  Have to say I am liking the injection of youth into the tired and stale English system.

I wonder if that's a result of the St George's Park initiative.


It would be a great result if it was. I think Southgate has learned a lesson from his predecessors, indeed he referred to the players getting a chance performing better than some of the established players, in that complacency kills. The performances in qualifying were awful but England are there now so will he adopt a more attacking approach to games? I hope so but it is still very possible the media and expectations will insist on quarter finals or bust and the group stages might revert to grinding out a result.

Having worked through numerous FA reviews from the 90's onwards I hope this is the real deal. The 17's, 19's, 21's and seniors all world class at the same time? It might just make football interesting again.
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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 12:45:23 PM »
It has been said many times but 'funny old game'. I can remember at several of the early coaching courses I went on the wannabes turned up in the blue Italia tops with the collar and the coaches and mentors waxed lyrically about the Dutch system.

What next I wonder?  Have to say I am liking the injection of youth into the tired and stale English system.

I wonder if that's a result of the St George's Park initiative.


It would be a great result if it was. I think Southgate has learned a lesson from his predecessors, indeed he referred to the players getting a chance performing better than some of the established players, in that complacency kills. The performances in qualifying were awful but England are there now so will he adopt a more attacking approach to games? I hope so but it is still very possible the media and expectations will insist on quarter finals or bust and the group stages might revert to grinding out a result.

Having worked through numerous FA reviews from the 90's onwards I hope this is the real deal. The 17's, 19's, 21's and seniors all world class at the same time? It might just make football interesting again.

As long as Southgate gives some of the youngsters a chance,Putting Hart in does not bode well after Pickfords display the other night, we need people who WANT to play for England, still have PRIDE pulling on the shirt

Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 01:20:10 PM »
It has been said many times but 'funny old game'. I can remember at several of the early coaching courses I went on the wannabes turned up in the blue Italia tops with the collar and the coaches and mentors waxed lyrically about the Dutch system.

What next I wonder?  Have to say I am liking the injection of youth into the tired and stale English system.

I wonder if that's a result of the St George's Park initiative.


It would be a great result if it was. I think Southgate has learned a lesson from his predecessors, indeed he referred to the players getting a chance performing better than some of the established players, in that complacency kills. The performances in qualifying were awful but England are there now so will he adopt a more attacking approach to games? I hope so but it is still very possible the media and expectations will insist on quarter finals or bust and the group stages might revert to grinding out a result.

Having worked through numerous FA reviews from the 90's onwards I hope this is the real deal. The 17's, 19's, 21's and seniors all world class at the same time? It might just make football interesting again.

As long as Southgate gives some of the youngsters a chance,Putting Hart in does not bode well after Pickfords display the other night, we need people who WANT to play for England, still have PRIDE pulling on the shirt

Yeah he's gotta drop Hart for Pickford. Hart is over the hill and the lesser player.


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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 01:36:03 PM »
The Gazzetta dello Sport comments favourably on England's successful 'under' teams and suggests that this is the way forward on how to build for the future.  Dumping the clueless Ventura is at least an upside for the national team going forward.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 02:49:09 PM »
I watched both legs and started rooting for the swedes when Italy got up to all their old cheating tricks in the first leg. Very poor from them. The second leg, the Italians were simply out coached.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2017, 05:00:47 PM »
With the Dutch out, there won't be any "total" football. Not that its done them, Arsenal or us much good. With Italy out, there won't be as many Oscar awards for diving and knee grabbing. With the US out, there will be a shortage of teams for me to support. England has always been a favorite of mine, even if they are boring to watch (sorry). Guess I'll watch you lot and maybe find a dark horse to ride. Costa Rico anyone?

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 05:06:19 PM »
I thought the USA had a case to appeal against the goal that never was in that Panama game, whereupon, the Panama goal never crossed the line.

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Re: Goodbye Italy!
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 05:46:05 PM »
I thought the USA had a case to appeal against the goal that never was in that Panama game, whereupon, the Panama goal never crossed the line.

Yeah, it was fraud but it’s been brought to light in the Panama papers ;)