Is Betts in the dog house?

[Forever Fulham]

Why isn't he getting time when Button plays poorly?  Reasonable people can differ as to which is better overall.  You can afford to let a forward go into a bit of slump now and then, figuring time will cure that, and he'll come out of it.  He'll play his way out of it.  But a goal keeper?

[Twig]

I've no idea but you are right.  Regardless of who is "better" it is surprising he cannot get a start.  Am wondering whether he might stick in a transfer request.

[bobby01]

I prefer Betts, another example of jokas stubbornness I think button has been criticised so he has backed him up and will stick with him.

[grandad]

I will be bemused if Betts is not in the next game. Button´s performances recently have been shocking & this feeds through to the rest of the team. Betts deserves at least a run out. He is not getting any game time & GK´s need this more than any  outfield player.

[Forever Fulham]

Me too.  He's younger, bigger, longer wingspan, quicker (I think), and last year got to us to within a breath of that third place finish.  He's vocal.  Marshaling the back as he surveys the moment.  Button is quieter.  I like them both.  But I prefer Bettinelli.  And I'm not picking on Button.  God knows, he's not the sole reason for our late weak run of form.  But when you have to patch up a back line because of injuries, you  need the goalie on his game.  Lately, he makes me nervous.

[Woolly Mammoth]

If Jok hasn't got the ability to choose his best balanced in form team, with a plan B up his sleeve, and continues to be too stubborn with tunnel vision for his own good, he should go, but only if he takes the Khans with him.

[The Old Count]

If Jok hasn't got the ability to chose his best balanced in form team, with a plan B up his sleeve, and continues to be too stubborn with tunnel vision for his own good, he should go, but only if he takes the Khans with him.

It's interesting that certain players who weren't getting on the bench when Kline was here are now appearing.  That smacks of petulance and self interest over the interest of the team.  Not giving Betts a run and persisting with Fonte smacks of stubborness.

[One Martin Thomas]

Me too.  He's younger, bigger, longer wingspan, quicker (I think), and last year got to us to within a breath of that third place finish.  He's vocal.  Marshaling the back as he surveys the moment.  Button is quieter.  I like them both.  But I prefer Bettinelli.  And I'm not picking on Button.  God knows, he's not the sole reason for our late weak run of form.  But when you have to patch up a back line because of injuries, you  need the goalie on his game.  Lately, he makes me nervous.

within a breath of 3rd place.... exactly. That alone is worth starting over Button

[hovewhite]

Theres a few players i would luke to start,betts,mollo,djalo .would like to see if they made an improvment to the team over half a dozen games or so!

[Jims Dentist]

His kicking yesterday was diabolical.

[hovewhite]

Theres a few players i would luke to start,betts,mollo,djalo .would like to see if they made an improvment to the team over half a dozen games or so!

Agree 100%

[filham]

Well Betts's performance yesterday probably explains why Jocanovic has stuck with Button for so long, his distribution alone indicated he should be on the bench.
Interesting to see who is in goal next week.
I see Schwarzer is in the country broadcasting for the BBC. He would probably be our best choice.

[grandad]

Betts was bound to be rusty after sitting on the bench for the last 20 games. Nothing beats having real game time to hone ones skills. I would stay with him as I feel he gives the back 4 more confidence.

[aaronmcguigan]

I know Betts wasn't the best yesterday but the guy played his part in our great run last season and was alienated in July. He was frozen out and ignored for the first 3/4 weeks of pre season. Regardless of whether there was interest in him, he's probably had to play catch up For the rest of the season . The lack of fitness and training camp then helped him pick up an injury which was setting him back further.

Button was number 1 at the start of the season, and earned the right to stay as number 1,but I fear Betts playing yesterday was Joka searching for something different rather than Betts earning the right to play through improved training?

[copthornemike]

In the first half v BCFC Bettinelli's distribution started out poor and appeared to get worse as the first half went on
However seemed OK second half in my opinion!

[filham]

Betts was bound to be rusty after sitting on the bench for the last 20 games. Nothing beats having real game time to hone ones skills. I would stay with him as I feel he gives the back 4 more confidence.

At best you could say it went from worst to bad.

[copthornemike]

Betts was bound to be rusty after sitting on the bench for the last 20 games. Nothing beats having real game time to hone ones skills. I would stay with him as I feel he gives the back 4 more confidence.

At best you could say it went from worst to bad.

Would have to partially disagree with you there Filham
I would agree with you if we are talking about the first half - Bett's distribution started out poor and got worse as the game went on
However from where I was sitting in the Hammy End I thought his distribution was OK in the second half

[Chutney]

If the worst thing we can say about Betts is that he has poor distribution then I'm happy with him starting, at least he can save simple efforts on goal. Button has conceded 5 or 6 goals you'd expect a decent GK to save, his shot stopping ability is to poor to be overlooked. Bettinelli is our best GK. Adding to this, Ream and Kalas looked infinitely more confident with Betts behind them, with button starting they looked shaky and worried about letting anybody shoot from range.

[Deeping_white]

If the worst thing we can say about Betts is that he has poor distribution then I'm happy with him starting, at least he can save simple efforts on goal. Button has conceded 5 or 6 goals you'd expect a decent GK to save, his shot stopping ability is to poor to be overlooked. Bettinelli is our best GK. Adding to this, Ream and Kalas looked infinitely more confident with Betts behind them, with button starting they looked shaky and worried about letting anybody shoot from range.

Well we can't really judge him on shot stopping v Birmingham as they had one tame shot on target that was straight at him. Based on how we play, the goalkeeper needs to be comfortable with the ball at his feet else it will be detrimental to us, and Betinelli has shown that he isn't capable of improving his distribution in the almost 2 years that Joka has been here.

The back four also looked comfortable for 70 minutes as Brum never pressed us and allowed us to knock the ball about as we wanted. After 70 minutes they woke up and we started sh*tting ourselves for no real reason, to the point where we had to stick another CB on so I don't get how you can say that either.