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Has John Terry....

Started by ffcne, May 18, 2018, 11:53:24 AM

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Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 04:46:38 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 18, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 02:15:50 PM
You sound a bit parochial. You're doing well using the world wide web living in the 1980s.

I'm keen to hear your views on Scousers, the Irish and black folk too.

Are all brummies as sensitive as you, how are you going cope when Mitro leaves that pillar of your community and club JT floundering in his slipstream to complete his Hatrick. At this rate you will need counciling. Just don't come to me with tears in your eyes for mercy, because I am fresh out of it.

Are all Londoners as biggoted as you?

People who tend to feel comfortable in trotting out tedious regional sterotypes are the same sort who often defend themselves with the ill fated "...but some of me best friends are black!" or "...but I love curries".

I am very very comfortable, thank you for asking. I cannot stand a Ruby Murray.
Give me Pie & Mash, mushy peas, and some Jellied eels washed down with a large pint of London Pride. Followed by a right old knees up with mother brown. Singing "maybe it's because ime a Londoner, and I love London Town, get off me barrow. Maybe it's because ime a Londoner, when I think of her wherever I go, get off me sister ".
That's what this Cockney will be singing after we send you to the cleaners next Saturday. But never mind you will eventually get over it.
I just don't like brummies running their mouth off on a Fulham Forum.
Anyway, unless you can be more civil, and start showing some class, it's time you slung your hook, and keep right on to the end of the road. This is a Fulham Forum, I assume you must have been banned from yours.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Coldhands

#21
I'm being perfectly civil. It's you who needs park their bigoted and parochial views in the past, which is where they belong.

Brexit has emboldened certain views unfortunately.

You have got good hearing if you can hear Bow Bells from West London. 

ffcne

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 05:41:50 PM
I'm being perfectly civil. It's you who needs park their bigoted and parochial views in the past, which is where they belong.

Brexit has emboldened certain views unfortunately.

You have got good hearing if you can hear Bow Bells from West London.

He's a snowflake aagh


MikeW

Wow! Mr Coldhands has managed to get Brexit into a non related argument!  That makes him a Guardian reader.

On to football. Pace will be they key against Villa's back line.  Down the wings we have plenty.  From what I've seen of Kamara in the past few games he has the ability to terrorise but the final pass or shot is crucial.  He did it wonderfully for Ryan on Monday.  Composure and pace maketh the man.
"If you're sat in row Z and the ball hits your head, that's ........."

MikeW

"If you're sat in row Z and the ball hits your head, that's ........."

Woolly Mammoth

#25
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 05:41:50 PM
I'm being perfectly civil. It's you who needs park their bigoted and parochial views in the past, which is where they belong.

Brexit has emboldened certain views unfortunately.

You be hot good hearing if you can hear Bow Bells from West London. 

I was born on the Isle of Dogs so I heard the Bow Bells so clear as though they were at the bottom of my Air Raid Shelter. When you have walked in my boots then you can judge me, in the meantime, have plenty of sleepless nights between now and next Saturday.
You can now go and report back to Noddy Holder informing him your mission has been a complete and utter failure of Biblical Proportions, shame on you.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Coldhands

I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.

AVFC1982

Quote from: Sir Craven on May 18, 2018, 12:00:35 PM
My QPR mate send me this after they beat Villa 3-0 in March:


"There's an elephant in the room here of course. A big, lumbering, slow elephant, whose evening started with Manning beating him to a cross for the first which he missed hitting the net because he'd completely lost his footing and broken a fall onto the solid ground with his face.

Yes, as if this wasn't all absolutely bloody wonderful enough, the whole thing played out like Big Racist John's living nightmare: a heavy defeat to a backing track of constant abuse from QPR fans with a confident young black man running absolute rings around him. And we were all there to see it and take part in it at close quarters. The stunned silence among 30,000 home fans, and the one-sided nature of the scoreline and balance of play, afforded the opportunity for 90 minutes of telling him exactly what we thought of him to his face.

He heard it. He heard it all. And he hated it.

A big fat fcuk you was duly delivered in the form of a third goal. Freeman on from the bench, ending their torment at the hands of Eze but providing a new threat in the form of QPR's best player this season, was fed by Furlong after a beautiful chipped pass by Luongo. Freeman quickly worked space inside the penalty area, sent Johnstone off to his right with the eyes, and then reversed the ball into the bottom left hand corner instead.

Three nil now and with Villa Park almost completely empty we were left alone with public enemy number one. Bruce had made all three subs so there was no escape – we know how the self-styled Captain, Leader, Legend likes to engineer departures from games at times that suit his ego of course but that opportunity was denied him here. The abuse flowed almost as constantly and smoothly as QPR's football through midfield. Five minutes to go, Terry looked towards the away end and spat on the ground. Huge cheers. We were getting to him. Minute later, some weird hand gesture in our direction that seemed to be him miming lifting an imaginary trophy – maybe one he's invented to award to himself. Huge cheers again. Close run thing between this or a night with Rachel Riley.

We can, and have, and will again, talk about the parking in disabled spaces, the shagging a team mate's wife behind his own wife's back, the using his position as England captain to make yet more money by hawking out Wembley boxes on the side at £4k a throw, the using his position as Chelsea captain to make yet more money by running dodgy bootleg tours of Cobham, the propensity to piss in pint glasses in nightclubs and then cob it all over the dance floor, the drunken abuse of distraught American tourists near Heathrow Airport when he'd used 9/11 as a chance for an all day drink up, his dad's cocaine dealing, his mum's shop-lifting, going up to collect a cup in full kit and shin pads at the end of a final he'd missed through suspension for deliberately kicking an opponent in the back, and that monstrous moment of hubris and ego when he stopped a Premier League game at a time pre-arranged (by him, at his suggestion, for his idea) so he could leave the field to a standing ovation in the same minute as his shirt number.

But for now, on this Tuesday, all that mattered was his performance: dominated in both boxes by Matt Smith, who seemed to have made it his mission to head every Aston Villa corner away by himself; repeatedly tricked and humiliated by Ebere Eze on his second ever league start. Turning slower than milk and with the same acceleration as the average three bed semi, he was saved from further humiliation only by the more mobile James Chester alongside him. Chester got his reward for doing the job of two men by hooking in an injury time corner to make it 3-1 which sparked a brief panic during which Smithies saved well from Adomah but eventually proved scant consolation. Terry, face like thunder, had only the QPR fans in his ear for company.

We may face him again one day and he may play better than this. He may well beat us, and celebrate in front of us, and send out pithy Instagram pictures about how he always beats QPR (this was actually the third time Rangers have beaten Terry's team in seven league games with a draw chucked in there as well) and we'll have to suck that up. He could well be lifting a play-off trophy for Villa in two months' time. But for now we have this wonderful Tuesday, and he'll always be the England international captain who called one of our players a "flipping black front bottom" on the pitch during a game"

Guy Whittingham, Loft For Words (QPR Forum)

The score was 3-1 not 3-0 to begin with!

John Terry has achieved more in his career than QPR have in their history also.

:005:

BestOfBrede

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.
Why are you here?
All you appear to be doing is trying to force arguments!
Woolley is a good guy and not how you are trying to portray him!
So either post on a Birmingham site or a Chelsea one, as that's where your allegiances seem to be by the way you are so desperate to condone an arse!


Baszab

The disabled bay is outside the kebab shop in Esher / JTs favourite restaurant
Mind you it's difficult to park there

Coldhands

Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 18, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.
Why are you here?
All you appear to be doing is trying to force arguments!
Woolley is a good guy and not how you are trying to portray him!
So either post on a Birmingham site or a Chelsea one, as that's where your allegiances seem to be by the way you are so desperate to condone an arse!

Condone what? I don't see what Terry has done in the past has to do with his ability. The obsession about his parking ability is odd and has little and nothing to do with how good a player he is.

I haven't got time for idiotic stereotyping. It's pathetic and arcane.

BestOfBrede

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 18, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.
Why are you here?
All you appear to be doing is trying to force arguments!
Woolley is a good guy and not how you are trying to portray him!
So either post on a Birmingham site or a Chelsea one, as that's where your allegiances seem to be by the way you are so desperate to condone an arse!

Condone what? I don't see what Terry has done in the past has to do with his ability. The obsession about his parking ability is odd and has little and nothing to do with how good a player he is.

I haven't got time for idiotic stereotyping. It's pathetic and arcane.
Good, then we will have seen the back of your posts on our site!
You appear to be suggesting that even if a football player committed some crime, that it matters not if they play for team!
You really don't see anything wrong in the things that that tw*t and his family have done at all?
Maybe you don't know any disabled people, but I tell you this - they need some assistance and not to be ignored by upstarts!

Let's leave it now, please!


Dr Know

Coldhands , have you ever drunk the John Terry vodka , made in England bottled in Moscow .

Coldhands

I assume he was fined for it if the alleged offence took place.

I'm not overly concerned with what he's done or who has slept with. He's acted professionally throughout his time here and has been thoroughly professional.

I cannot abide Chelsea and would have preferred their name to never taint the European Cup. I respect his achievements though, which dwarf most others. I'm not sure I understand your infatuation with him or his past.


HV71

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on May 18, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.
Why are you here?
All you appear to be doing is trying to force arguments!
Woolley is a good guy and not how you are trying to portray him!
So either post on a Birmingham site or a Chelsea one, as that's where your allegiances seem to be by the way you are so desperate to condone an arse!

Condone what? I don't see what Terry has done in the past has to do with his ability. The obsession about his parking ability is odd and has little and nothing to do with how good a player he is.

I haven't got time for idiotic stereotyping. It's pathetic and arcane.


Coldhands let me let you into a life lesson. First of all some people have some type of moral compass. They decide on their direction of travel , who the associate with , like and dislike by a reference to how people act and behave. People draw lines in different places and decide what they feel to be acceptable/unacceptable levels of behaviour. For some success , making money - winning is the be and end all no matter what the impact or consequences are on others. Other people take a different view. What is even more galling for some is when people have exceptional talents , are very successful but ( and this is a very big but ) treat others with a disdain and a lack of grace that is so disgusting , and unnecessary, that they can only be viewed with contempt.

For someone like myself the following are on my personal list of abhorrent characters ( football )

Mr J Terry
Mr Samuel Allardyce
Colin
Mr Stephen J Evans

All of the above have proved that they put themselves and money ( in spite of being relatively wealthy ) before any sense of decent human behaviour. I would not want any of them near the club that I support . You of course can make your own choice - and look yourself in the mirror quite happily when you shave [ if of course you have reached that stage physically in your life - as I am unsure mentally ]

Anyway I have no problem with you posting on this forum but when you question why we hold opinions on certain individuals you should reflect on what it is like to have such obnoxious people as near neighbours. Or perhaps your own moral compass does not have a problem with very weailthy people parking in spaces meant for the far less fortunate.


Do you even begin to get my drift ? - or perhaps you simply cannot grasp the concept


Coldhands

It seems sanctimonious pontificating goes hand in hand with pureille remarks.

I don't have to condone anything he has done, but I can accept that people change and when weighed and measured upon his time in the game, he's proven professional in all his minutes with us.

Given what is currently happening in the game right now, the horror stories that are emerging, to describe him or Allardyce  as abhorrent is frankly insulting. Perhaps you can try and borrow a sense of perspective from Gordon Brown along with his catchphrases.

HV71

Thank you Coldhands - you have been honest enough to show your hand and we can be in no doubt as to where you stand in terms of the moral compass. That is your choice . Frankly if I had been appointed England manager ( with the talents Allardyce has ) then I would at least regard myself as fortunate and unlike him would not have been tempted to make a bit more on the side .

It is not sanctimonious to take a moral stance - and is cheap to suggest as much .You don't even see it do you ? which is fine but rather sad.

Jimpav

Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 04:46:38 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 18, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 02:15:50 PM
You sound a bit parochial. You're doing well using the world wide web living in the 1980s.

I'm keen to hear your views on Scousers, the Irish and black folk too.

Are all brummies as sensitive as you, how are you going cope when Mitro leaves that pillar of your community and club JT floundering in his slipstream to complete his Hatrick. At this rate you will need counciling. Just don't come to me with tears in your eyes for mercy, because I am fresh out of it.

Are all Londoners as biggoted as you?

People who tend to feel comfortable in trotting out tedious regional sterotypes are the same sort who often defend themselves with the ill fated "...but some of me best friends are black!" or "...but I love curries".

Bigoted?!

I'm trying to ascertain if you were genuinely offended by this comment or whether this is an elaborate wind up.

If I had a £1 every time I rival fan made a generalisation about our fans/West Londoners then I would
be a millionaire.


Woolly Mammoth

#38
Quote from: Coldhands on May 18, 2018, 06:23:08 PM
I'll pass judgment on you from what you evidence. You might have been born in the big city, but you appear as parachocial as they come with your arcane stereotypes. It's likely the thin end of the wedge. If that upsets you, good.

Sorry I took so long to answer, but I had to go and have a lie down after your generous praise of me for all my special qualities as a top bloke, and your not the first Villa fan to comment on what a good egg you feel I am.
Your spoiling me in your indulgence, and your hero worship is understanding, but I must insist you start heading back to Villa Park, as it's your turn to have a lie down, but for entirely different reasons.
I am also sorry to hear you have run out of Viagra Tablets.

Thank you and Goodnight.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

otter muppet

Love a good remoan as much as the next guy, but can you not pretend that voting one way in a referendum a year old gives you moral high ground. No one gives a shi*t.

Also.. Framing yourself as a moralist whilst defending Terry? I hear stalin was a good egg, fancy backing his corner too?