Author Topic: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?  (Read 427 times)

Offline Whitesideup

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NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« on: September 16, 2018, 03:58:54 PM »
Re - Zaha's comment that referees are lenient on players committing fouls against him, and only him. "Do they have to break my leg before they get a red card?"  He clearly insuates that if another player had been the recipient, then the offender would have been shown red.

The foul in yesterday's game was in my view clearly a yellow. It was late, but not excessively violent. The offending defender had not dived in recklessly with raised studs - it was simply a bad, late challenge that deserved a yellow. Do two of them in a game, then it's red. 

Or do you think Zaha has a point? And that by making his point publicly that he will raise awareness in refs so that justice is done.

Or is he trying to put the thought into refs' heads that they should offer him more protection?
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Re: NFR - Saha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 04:04:31 PM »
Zaha?  I haven't seen yesterday's highlights but recall seeing Huddersfield kick him off the pitch last season.  I think he has a valid point.  Not so sure about the amount of penalties he tries to win.

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Re: NFR - Saha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 04:57:22 PM »
He is Roy's equivalent to hazard only not as good.


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Re: NFR - Saha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 07:01:51 PM »
I listened to Zaha and he reminded me of Serena Williams in the US Final. The World is against me, it is because I am so talented that I am unfairly treated.  Sorry but he is a wonderful player but I do wish that someone would stop encouraging him to carry that big chip he has always had.  He is no more sinned against than many others.

Mind you if he played for us I would immediately change my attitude and agree with him. But he doesn't so I don't.

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Re: NFR - Saha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2018, 08:16:09 PM »
Zaha?  I haven't seen yesterday's highlights but recall seeing Huddersfield kick him off the pitch last season.  I think he has a valid point.  Not so sure about the amount of penalties he tries to win.
Ooops  ...yes. Typo. Or was I thinking of someone else?

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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2018, 08:52:09 PM »
He cer.ainly gets clattered a fair bit. But as a striker who relies on pace not physicality he is not alone in that. It opens a wider and, in my view, more valid debate as to whether refereees give forwards enough protection or not?


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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2018, 06:40:17 AM »
I played football in the 80's. If Zaha had done there would be less chatter as he'd have no teeth left. Not better in my day but he really needs to get a grip and stop the whingeing.

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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2018, 06:57:42 AM »
Neither really.  He’s able to shift the ball quicker than defenders can cope with, worked hard to be able to do so.  So he can’t be surprised if defenders sometimes get him and not the ball.  Getting irate he decided to go in for a hefty foul of his own.  Asked about it afterwards he had a bit of a moan -which of us hasn’t done that from time to time?  But he’s a very very good footballer and I rather like him.

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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2018, 07:35:29 AM »
He's badly treated by refs imo. He has got a name for diving in the collective consciousness of refs. They let tackles go against him, some are horrendous, because of this.

I didn't think the tackle was a deffo red this w/e, but close. His foul back was petulant and won't help his cause tho.

Good players in most teams get above average protection. He is and doesn't. So he has a point to what he said.


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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2018, 02:09:42 PM »
Seriously.  Did George Best, Marsh, Zola, Pat Nevin, Hazard et  al  whinge? All fine players on the lightweight side but use speed and skills to keep out of trouble.  It's still a physical game- if no likey it's time to check if Stricktly is still looking for contestants Wilifried my friend..

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Re: NFR - Zaha - sinned against or sinner?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2018, 04:48:09 PM »
Without Zaha, they get relegated as they were last season before his return. With Zaha they are mid-table. I think he is prone to draw the focus of a lot more fouls as he is their biggest threat, so it will happen more often and he is free to cry about it. Not sure the severity is any more or less extreme.

If he played for Man City, this whole situation would likely get overlooked as he'd be playing with 10 other Zaha's and the focus would not be solely on one player.