SP TK.

[blingo]

Both nice guys but sp is not experienced enough for the prem and TK needs to understand we need proven prem players and not stats players. Better with three proven prem players at twenty m than ten may turn out to be good. Also let's stop buying players with dodgy knees. Rant over.

[rebel]

I agree.

[Deeping_white]

Proven prem players cost more money and might not want to come to us? What's your next move? Tarkowski is an average ability CB with Prem experience but Burnley want £50m, you could get two good foreign centre halves for the same price, hence why we use stats to try and identify good players that may cost less

[bog]

Is he still using that stats c***?  :031: If he is then God or someone please help us and before the transfer window slams shut. I wish our defence could slam shut.  :022:

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[blingo]

But it's not working is it?

[ChesterTheTabby]

Ah yes, and I'm sure you were experienced and knew what you were doing for every hobby or professional career you held or currently hold from day one. No career should ever progress, because no one can ever progress, develop, or evolve. Scott had one season in charge in the league below this one, and he got us out of it on the first ask. It's reasonable to let him learn his trade in the league above and give him time. There will be growing pains, but that's with any leader moving to the next higher management position in any industry.

If every "boss" I ever had or any managerial position I ever held was let go because they couldn't perform or adapt immediately to the expected standard on week one - we'd have no one, and future leaders wouldn't be able to grow because they're always "too inexperienced" Or simply "not good enough"

I have no comment on TK - but as far as ur gaffer goes - to write him off already is folly.

[blingo]

This is a multi million pound business not asdas checkout. If we want to progress we need more from Khan in terms of players and a top manager if they are serious about owning a top team. They have the money, but a new Riverside stand doesn't cut it in the third division does it. We need quality and we've already had one lesson. How many lessons does it take before it sinks in?

[blingo]

And we should have gone up as champions not through the play offs with the best squad in the championship. SP was lucky in the championship. He won't cut it at this level.

[blingo]

Nothing like motivating your team as a manager by saying, we will lose more games than we win is there?

[Lighthouse]

And we should have gone up as champions not through the play offs with the best squad in the championship. SP was lucky in the championship. He won't cut it at this level.

I am sorry this is the positive Blingo who does nothing but be positive? So now your theory is get rid of the coach and the system that won two promotions. This after one match in the Prem against a team who finished well and probably are in the top three in the division.

Remind me not to be as positive as you.

[filham]

I had the impression that we were now bringing in players based on scouts reports, Parker's opinion and Stats, which seems reasonable.

[AnOldBrownie]

Lol..we haven't played any of our new signings...yet we get complaints about our signings.   After game 1.


Guess I'm in the right place.

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[Lyle from Hangeland]

Proven prem players cost more money and might not want to come to us? What's your next move? Tarkowski is an average ability CB with Prem experience but Burnley want £50m, you could get two good foreign centre halves for the same price, hence why we use stats to try and identify good players that may cost less

I agree. It's amazing how little lifelong football fans know about what is actually going on.

[Lyle from Hangeland]

This is a multi million pound business not asdas checkout. If we want to progress we need more from Khan in terms of players and a top manager if they are serious about owning a top team. They have the money, but a new Riverside stand doesn't cut it in the third division does it. We need quality and we've already had one lesson. How many lessons does it take before it sinks in?

When are you going to understand that FFP limits how much the Khans can spend on players?

[Lyle from Hangeland]

Ah yes, and I'm sure you were experienced and knew what you were doing for every hobby or professional career you held or currently hold from day one. No career should ever progress, because no one can ever progress, develop, or evolve. Scott had one season in charge in the league below this one, and he got us out of it on the first ask. It's reasonable to let him learn his trade in the league above and give him time. There will be growing pains, but that's with any leader moving to the next higher management position in any industry.

If every "boss" I ever had or any managerial position I ever held was let go because they couldn't perform or adapt immediately to the expected standard on week one - we'd have no one, and future leaders wouldn't be able to grow because they're always "too inexperienced" Or simply "not good enough"

I have no comment on TK - but as far as ur gaffer goes - to write him off already is folly.

Amen

[absenteeism]

TK is not a nice guy.

A petty vindictive individual

[Statto]

This is a multi million pound business not asdas checkout. If we want to progress we need more from Khan in terms of players and a top manager if they are serious about owning a top team. They have the money, but a new Riverside stand doesn't cut it in the third division does it. We need quality and we've already had one lesson. How many lessons does it take before it sinks in?

When are you going to understand that FFP limits how much the Khans can spend on players?

But we are nowhere near that limit at the moment

[RaySmith]

But we supposedly have a two tick method of identifying possible new players - stats and scouting assessments, which seems reasonable to me.

I don't think the club is just  concerned with getting in the cheapest players possible.

They've been  accused of  splashing the cash unnecessarily in  the [past, and this season  what about the offers we've made to get Luis.
I think the Khans and  Parker very much  want to stay in the Prem - are they blind that they can't see what we  can all see ?-that we need top quality players who often cost big money to do this, it's their reps, careers, and money on the line after all.
But these top players usually want to go to top, successful clubs, so we're often looking at young players eager to prove themselves, or players at th end of their careers.

I don't think SP and TK are particularly 'nice' - well they may or may not be, I've never met them, but  experienced professionals in  football and business respectively, competitive and  driven to succeed at what they do.

[Woolly Mammoth]

The weakest link is the owners son, he is the catalyst in all this Buffoonary in bringing in players.
He is far from qualified in the job as D of F and it shows. He purchases players we don't need to cover up his short comings in failing in his negotiations to sign the players we do need.
To take away the attention of his failures. 
How many lightweight players, made up of deadwood and players who surplus were to requirements of their parent clubs he bought every year that either never make the first team or only last a short while, too many to remember.
No other club either side of the equator would tolerate his incompetence, except his father, and how much of his money has he wasted. Fulham have been promoted twice by two different managers despite the Huge Handicap of having the owners son interfering in their jobs.
A Centre Half was the priority before any other position to be strengthened, and the season has commenced and we appear to be no nearer that we were months ago. In fact we are worse off now that Alfie Mawson is on loan at Bristol City, not the way to operate a Premier League Club.

[ChesterTheTabby]

The weakest link is the owners son, he is the catalyst in all this Buffoonary in bringing in players.
He is far from qualified in the job as D of F and it shows. He purchases players we don't need to cover up his short comings in failing in his negotiations to sign the players we do need.
To take away the attention of his failures. 
How many lightweight players, made up of deadwood and players who surplus were to requirements of their parent clubs he bought every year that either never make the first team or only last a short while, too many to remember.
No other club either side of the equator would tolerate his incompetence, except his father, and how much of his money has he wasted. Fulham have been promoted twice by two different managers despite the Huge Handicap of having the owners son interfering in their jobs.
A Centre Half was the priority before any other position to be strengthened, and the season has commenced and we appear to be no nearer that we were months ago. In fact we are worse off now that Alfie Mawson is on loan at Bristol City, not the way to operate a Premier League Club.

This is a fair rant. I find myself largely agreeing with the criticism of TK. It may be unfair, but from a neutral perspective - it seems on the nose.