Castangne v Robinson

[bobbo]

I didn't sit in my usually seats today. Instead I got to sit close to the dugout, 3rd row from the front in the riverside.

It's a very different perspective of the game..

But from where I was, I thought Castagne was poor and we were lucky to have got away without conceding from the multiple mistakes he made.

yes I did too

[demeant0r]

Guys, this was his first match and playing in a position he usually doesn't play. If you thought he was poor, give him time. Personally I thought he was lively and got into spaces that were threatening but no one could pick him out.

[Kimbleman]

I didn't sit in my usually seats today. Instead I got to sit close to the dugout, 3rd row from the front in the riverside.

It's a very different perspective of the game..

But from where I was, I thought Castagne was poor and we were lucky to have got away without conceding from the multiple mistakes he made.

I'm sorry, I can't agree with that. I thought he played well (for his debut) and made some intelligent runs. Definitely a 7/10 from me too. 

[Southcoastffc]

I didn't sit in my usually seats today. Instead I got to sit close to the dugout, 3rd row from the front in the riverside.

It's a very different perspective of the game..

But from where I was, I thought Castagne was poor and we were lucky to have got away without conceding from the multiple mistakes he made.

Wild, completely different take. A game if opinions evidently
Thought he got very little wrong bar his yellow card and had our CBs spotted his quality runs in behind we might have broken down Luton much sooner

Agreed.

[St Eve]

Thought he looked shaky defensively and didn't provide much going forward. Genuinely surprised to see people being so positive about him.

But he will probably get more intergrated with the patterns of play as he gets more experience here. Was away with Belgium so he hasn't had many practice sessions yet.

agree with this. Also surprised at his lack of pace, but Jedi spoils us. I think he will settle in though in time

[itombomb]

He's a better 'footballer' than Robinson - the intelligence of his runs and technical ability is a big step up. But Antonee is a much better defender and has elite athleticism.

As a squad addition he's fantastic and a big upgrade on what we had last season

[btffc]

He's a better 'footballer' than Robinson - the intelligence of his runs and technical ability is a big step up. But Antonee is a much better defender and has elite athleticism.

As a squad addition he's fantastic and a big upgrade on what we had last season

Agree with this.

Overall the squad is so much stronger and deeper. I know it was a bit of a failure at striker but the depth is so, so much better. To the point that anyone missing a few games aside from Palhinha or Leno wouldn't worry me at all.

[WindyCity]

Robinson was injured on international duty. He is most definitely still our starter, and should be. Castagne looks an excellent backup for either fullback position.

Agree with MOF....

[Thames Bank 1]

Thought he did well, along with Awobi when he came on

[DadCreature]

I am very glad we have a good back up, but he's significantly slower than Jedi and it showed. He will have to play closer to goal to provide adequate cover and that will reduce offensive opportunities for a team already struggling to create them.

[Carborundum]

Robinson is one of the best left backs in the league.  It's unreasonable to expect a backup, playing on the wrong side, to match his level.

I'm not sure Castagne is a better technical footballer.  Things that are fairly easy when near stationary are very hard when moving at pace. Fredericks used to be badged as a terrible footballer, when in reality he was trying stuff at Warp speed.  Robinson similar.

Castagne started fine but seemed increasingly gripped by a tentativeness Robinson doesn't have.  The thought bubble above his head would have been "mustn't be the cause of not beating the league's favourites for relegation".  That's fair enough and he wasn't, so job done.  Football's a confidence game and praising his performance is good man management. Debut out of way and we haven't taken an instant dislike, but nor I suspect have we fallen in love.  There's time for that.

Ream and Castagne seems a recipe for defending too deep.  Didn't really matter in a game when Luton didn't want possession of the football for any time.  Bassey and Robinson means that in less extreme conditions we should defend higher up with equal comfort and benefit from the  pressing we can exert.

Iwobi on the other hand made a flying start for us.  I've seen him play many times, but must confess that I don't generally watch opposition players off the ball movement for any length of time*.  So it was something of a revelation to see him create total confusion in Luton's highly regimented troops.

* The late Peter Whittingham an exception.  He was amazing.

[AnOldBrownie]

He's a better 'footballer' than Robinson - the intelligence of his runs and technical ability is a big step up. But Antonee is a much better defender and has elite athleticism.

As a squad addition he's fantastic and a big upgrade on what we had last season

Agree with this.

Antonee is the better FB, imo, but Castagne is the better attacking player.   I feel more secure at the back with Robinson, but I like Castagne in the attack.

[Mickeyboro]

Robinson is one of the best left backs in the league.  It's unreasonable to expect a backup, playing on the wrong side, to match his level.

I'm not sure Castagne is a better technical footballer.  Things that are fairly easy when near stationary are very hard when moving at pace. Fredericks used to be badged as a terrible footballer, when in reality he was trying stuff at Warp speed.  Robinson similar.

Castagne started fine but seemed increasingly gripped by a tentativeness Robinson doesn't have.  The thought bubble above his head would have been "mustn't be the cause of not beating the league's favourites for relegation".  That's fair enough and he wasn't, so job done.  Football's a confidence game and praising his performance is good man management. Debut out of way and we haven't taken an instant dislike, but nor I suspect have we fallen in love.  There's time for that.

Ream and Castagne seems a recipe for defending too deep.  Didn't really matter in a game when Luton didn't want possession of the football for any time.  Bassey and Robinson means that in less extreme conditions we should defend higher up with equal comfort and benefit from the  pressing we can exert.

Iwobi on the other hand made a flying start for us.  I've seen him play many times, but must confess that I don't generally watch opposition players off the ball movement for any length of time*.  So it was something of a revelation to see him create total confusion in Luton's highly regimented troops.

* The late Peter Whittingham an exception.  He was amazing.

We can not judge after one game, for a new and unfamiliar team, played on his less favoured side.

Robinson has improved - used to compensate for bad decisions by his speed. Castaneda will have to do well to replace him, but as cover for lb and rb he will do for me.

[McBrideOfFrankenstein]

Robinson is one of the best left backs in the league.  It's unreasonable to expect a backup, playing on the wrong side, to match his level.

I'm not sure Castagne is a better technical footballer.  Things that are fairly easy when near stationary are very hard when moving at pace. Fredericks used to be badged as a terrible footballer, when in reality he was trying stuff at Warp speed.  Robinson similar.

Castagne started fine but seemed increasingly gripped by a tentativeness Robinson doesn't have.  The thought bubble above his head would have been "mustn't be the cause of not beating the league's favourites for relegation".  That's fair enough and he wasn't, so job done.  Football's a confidence game and praising his performance is good man management. Debut out of way and we haven't taken an instant dislike, but nor I suspect have we fallen in love.  There's time for that.

Ream and Castagne seems a recipe for defending too deep.  Didn't really matter in a game when Luton didn't want possession of the football for any time.  Bassey and Robinson means that in less extreme conditions we should defend higher up with equal comfort and benefit from the  pressing we can exert.

Iwobi on the other hand made a flying start for us.  I've seen him play many times, but must confess that I don't generally watch opposition players off the ball movement for any length of time*.  So it was something of a revelation to see him create total confusion in Luton's highly regimented troops.

* The late Peter Whittingham an exception.  He was amazing.

Love the thought bubble comparison.

[S.F.Sorrow]

It's a rather pointless question as Ballo-Toure is our alternative to Robinson at left back. Castagne is our alternative to Tete at right back but had to play LB against Luton because Robinson got injured with the US national team and Ballo-Toure presumably needs more time to settle in. We will most likely never see Castagne at left back ever again, unless Ballo-Toure turns out to be a disaster and Robinson keeps getting injured.

[Lighthouse]

Thought on the Fulham page where they give marks and the reason for them that they suggested he was MOM. He certainly found space lots of times but was given the ball apparently. A good performance as this wasn't his best position.

[StuinSalop]

He's a better 'footballer' than Robinson - the intelligence of his runs and technical ability is a big step up. But Antonee is a much better defender and has elite athleticism.

As a squad addition he's fantastic and a big upgrade on what we had last season

This post is 100% how I feel, very good footballer but we missed Robinsons link up with Willian and lung busting runs on the overlap.  Very good addition to the squad.

[heylookitsjacob]

I try really hard not to gatekeep football topics, but Castagne has played for Fulham in two games (one of those were for 17 minutes against the treble winners).

How is this even a discussion? Jedi all day. Castagne has a lot more to prove playing in this team vs. playing in a team like Leicester. In addition, I think if that shot that hit the post went in, this thread wouldn't have been made. 

[btffc]

We may be asking about the wrong fullback. On the Fulhamish podcast it was reported that Kenny Tete was not happy this Summer with how his contract negotiations were going and was possibly looking to leave with interest from Bayern and a few Spanish clubs. I think Castagne may be more insurance/replacement for Tete than true competition for Robinson.

[Marcel_Gecov]

We may be asking about the wrong fullback. On the Fulhamish podcast it was reported that Kenny Tete was not happy this Summer with how his contract negotiations were going and was possibly looking to leave with interest from Bayern and a few Spanish clubs. I think Castagne may be more insurance/replacement for Tete than true competition for Robinson.

Hopefully now we have the Mitro money we can offer Tete some decent increases and lock him down. I cant imagine he is far behind Palhinha or Reed on the list.