This process of youth and scouting should have been done when they took over nearly 20 years ago,and I,m not so sure our lunatic of Dof is capable of running the show.Just imagine if the young players don't gel straight away and we get relegated.Yes lukic and dieppe needed changing age and becoming free agents no return on our investment that is where the Dof should have kicked in but where was he no where near Motspur park.I bet he has mark maunders to give him a lift in case he gets lost.I hope for our sake for the long suffering fans from the 50s we have not had success where palace have recently.Just hope the Spaniards maybe 3 no play like their compatriots in the World Cup did notice all three are 5/9 to 5/10 watch corners and set plays,remember tony if we fail don't say that crap after you sign a player com on fulham,this is your last chance to grow a pair.
I agree with you, Mick; it's a new dawn.
Come on FulhamĀ ::scarf::
A new and welcome dawn for the season round the corner.
Mick does make a good point in as much that we are becoming a relatively small team. Add to that, possibly our tallest player Berge can't head the ball. Set pieces will be more difficult to defend this year even if we do bring in a monster centre half. Neither Jimenez previously nor Muniz now compare to Mitro's defensive work.
Let's not concede any corners nor free kicks in our defensive third. Simples š¤
I do worry our tiny (but skilful) newbies will be bullied out of midfield. We will very shortly discover!
Last night I watched a very skilful Hearts side knock the ball about in midfield before getting thumped 6-1 by our ex managers new side Benfica!!
I could get on with Mick's posts a bit more if they didn't include an unpleasant comment about TK every time.
These new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Quote from: MickTheBeard on August 07, 2026, 12:12:54 AMThis process of youth and scouting should have been done when they took over nearly 20 years ago,and I,m not so sure our lunatic of Dof is capable of running the show.Just imagine if the young players don't gel straight away and we get relegated.Yes lukic and dieppe needed changing age and becoming free agents no return on our investment that is where the Dof should have kicked in but where was he no where near Motspur park.I bet he has mark maunders to give him a lift in case he gets lost.I hope for our sake for the long suffering fans from the 50s we have not had success where palace have recently.Just hope the Spaniards maybe 3 no play like their compatriots in the World Cup did notice all three are 5/9 to 5/10 watch corners and set plays,remember tony if we fail don't say that crap after you sign a player com on fulham,this is your last chance to grow a pair.
Our so called lunatic DOF just might of made the signing of the century
I remain extremely optimistic
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
Quote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
I'm sure he is & should be. But the interesting bit of Mick's post was the lack of size. A team containing say Garcia, Kevin, Bobb, ESR & King would struggle at corners or throw-ins/free kicks around the box. Last season I think Arsenal regularly played with 7/8 6' or over players. They scored plenty from set pieces despite cheating. Chelsea appear to have 18 such players in their bloated squad & we have just sold our biggest & best defender. We really could do with a Roger Brown sized centre half with pace.
Quote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
1.
Say what you like they are still too lightweight. May get away with it playing in Spain, but the physicality and mentality in the English Leagues is a lot different and far more games, especially for younger players, yes some may embrace it but others will not.
2.
Depends what you mean by steady, empty trophy cabinet yes that's steady.
3,
Mid table mediocrity yeah that's steady.
3.
Not winning the FA Cup or the League Cup after all these years as the oldest club in London yep that's steady.
Even Wimbledon won the FA Cup beating Liverpool.
Even Wigan Athletic won the League Cup beating Manchester City.
4.
Ā I am not slagging him off I am stating a fact, nepotism never works when the individual in question is neither qualified or capable of performing in a job that is third choice behind the Crash helmet and padded shoulders spectacle and men in tights.
He deserves all the stick he gets.
So whether you or anyone else likes it or not I shall continue to voice my opinion, so get use to it.
Quote from: Deadcowboys on August 07, 2026, 04:08:40 PMBut the interesting bit of Mick's post was the lack of size. A team containing say Garcia, Kevin, Bobb, ESR & King would struggle at corners or throw-ins/free kicks around the box. Last season I think Arsenal regularly played with 7/8 6' or over players.
Firstly, it's probably unlikely that those Fulham players you picked would all be on the pitch together.Ā
Garcia is physical and a 6 footer.
Arsenal, for their tall back 4 (not including Raya who is a small keeper) also played with this lot all under 6 foot: Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli, Jesus, Lewis-Skelly, Eze, Zubimendi (and probably more). They had a few taller players (Gykores and Havertz) but definitely not a huge team at all.Ā
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 04:20:47 PMQuote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
1.
Say what you like they are still too lightweight. May get away with it playing in Spain, but the physicality and mentality in the English Leagues is a lot different and far more games, especially for younger players, yes some may embrace it but others will not.
2.
Depends what you mean by steady, empty trophy cabinet yes that's steady.
3,
Mid table mediocrity yeah that's steady.
3.
Not winning the FA Cup or the League Cup after all these years as the oldest club in London yep that's steady.
Even Wimbledon won the FA Cup beating Liverpool.
Even Wigan Athletic won the League Cup beating Manchester City.
4.
Ā I am not slagging him off I am stating a fact, nepotism never works when the individual in question is neither qualified or capable of performing in a job that is third choice behind the Crash helmet and padded shoulders spectacle and men in tights.
He deserves all the stick he gets.
So whether you or anyone else likes it or not I shall continue to voice my opinion, so get use to it.
I think you just have a thing for men in tights,
Personally I think Tony's doing a decent job and made some great signings over the years, developing Fulham a good squad, not bad for an "American"
Let's face it Fulham are an "American" owned team at the end of the day
Quote from: perry geyton on August 08, 2026, 03:29:29 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 04:20:47 PMQuote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
1.
Say what you like they are still too lightweight. May get away with it playing in Spain, but the physicality and mentality in the English Leagues is a lot different and far more games, especially for younger players, yes some may embrace it but others will not.
2.
Depends what you mean by steady, empty trophy cabinet yes that's steady.
3,
Mid table mediocrity yeah that's steady.
3.
Not winning the FA Cup or the League Cup after all these years as the oldest club in London yep that's steady.
Even Wimbledon won the FA Cup beating Liverpool.
Even Wigan Athletic won the League Cup beating Manchester City.
4.
Ā I am not slagging him off I am stating a fact, nepotism never works when the individual in question is neither qualified or capable of performing in a job that is third choice behind the Crash helmet and padded shoulders spectacle and men in tights.
He deserves all the stick he gets.
So whether you or anyone else likes it or not I shall continue to voice my opinion, so get use to it.
I think you just have a thing for men in tights,
Personally I think Tony's doing a decent job and made some great signings over the years, developing Fulham a good squad, not bad for an "American"
Let's face it Fulham are an "American" owned team at the end of the day
In the Kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is King.
Quote from: perry geyton on August 08, 2026, 03:29:29 PMI think you just have a thing for men in tights,
Personally I think Tony's doing a decent job and made some great signings over the years, developing Fulham a good squad, not bad for an "American"
Let's face it Fulham are an "American" owned team at the end of the day
I agree wholeheartedly with you on all points
šš¤“
Quote from: MickTheBeard on August 07, 2026, 12:12:54 AMThis process of youth and scouting should have been done when they took over nearly 20 years ago,and I,m not so sure our lunatic of Dof is capable of running the show.Just imagine if the young players don't gel straight away and we get relegated.Yes lukic and dieppe needed changing age and becoming free agents no return on our investment that is where the Dof should have kicked in but where was he no where near Motspur park.I bet he has mark maunders to give him a lift in case he gets lost.I hope for our sake for the long suffering fans from the 50s we have not had success where palace have recently.Just hope the Spaniards maybe 3 no play like their compatriots in the World Cup did notice all three are 5/9 to 5/10 watch corners and set plays,remember tony if we fail don't say that crap after you sign a player com on fulham,this is your last chance to grow a pair.
Ā A new Dawn you say, well I have always got up at the crack of Dawn
Which has nothing to do with my Girlfriend Dawn, that's just a coincidence.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2026, 08:14:47 PMQuote from: perry geyton on August 08, 2026, 03:29:29 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 04:20:47 PMQuote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
1.
Say what you like they are still too lightweight. May get away with it playing in Spain, but the physicality and mentality in the English Leagues is a lot different and far more games, especially for younger players, yes some may embrace it but others will not.
2.
Depends what you mean by steady, empty trophy cabinet yes that's steady.
3,
Mid table mediocrity yeah that's steady.
3.
Not winning the FA Cup or the League Cup after all these years as the oldest club in London yep that's steady.
Even Wimbledon won the FA Cup beating Liverpool.
Even Wigan Athletic won the League Cup beating Manchester City.
4.
Ā I am not slagging him off I am stating a fact, nepotism never works when the individual in question is neither qualified or capable of performing in a job that is third choice behind the Crash helmet and padded shoulders spectacle and men in tights.
He deserves all the stick he gets.
So whether you or anyone else likes it or not I shall continue to voice my opinion, so get use to it.
I think you just have a thing for men in tights,
Personally I think Tony's doing a decent job and made some great signings over the years, developing Fulham a good squad, not bad for an "American"
Let's face it Fulham are an "American" owned team at the end of the day
In the Kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is King.
Nice one Woolly, and i agree with all your points.
Garcia lightweight? Bloke is like a rugby player.
Hilarious and slightly embarrassing stereotype.
Quote from: JimĀ© on August 08, 2026, 09:20:04 PMGarcia lightweight? Bloke is like a rugby player.
Hilarious and slightly embarrassing stereotype.
He may be. but we're going to need more like him to punch our weight.
Quote from: Deadcowboys on August 07, 2026, 06:51:05 AMMick does make a good point in as much that we are becoming a relatively small team. Add to that, possibly our tallest player Berge can't head the ball. Set pieces will be more difficult to defend this year even if we do bring in a monster centre half. Neither Jimenez previously nor Muniz now compare to Mitro's defensive work.
Very well said.
Quote from: Deadcowboys on August 07, 2026, 06:51:05 AMMick does make a good point in as much that we are becoming a relatively small team. Add to that, possibly our tallest player Berge can't head the ball. Set pieces will be more difficult to defend this year even if we do bring in a monster centre half. Neither Jimenez previously nor Muniz now compare to Mitro's defensive work.
Very well said.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Too true Woolly.
What other Premier League team would entertain such a set up.
Nepotism hamstrings us.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 04:20:47 PMQuote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
1.
Say what you like they are still too lightweight. May get away with it playing in Spain, but the physicality and mentality in the English Leagues is a lot different and far more games, especially for younger players, yes some may embrace it but others will not.
2.
Depends what you mean by steady, empty trophy cabinet yes that's steady.
3,
Mid table mediocrity yeah that's steady.
3.
Not winning the FA Cup or the League Cup after all these years as the oldest club in London yep that's steady.
Even Wimbledon won the FA Cup beating Liverpool.
Even Wigan Athletic won the League Cup beating Manchester City.
4.
Ā I am not slagging him off I am stating a fact, nepotism never works when the individual in question is neither qualified or capable of performing in a job that is third choice behind the Crash helmet and padded shoulders spectacle and men in tights.
He deserves all the stick he gets.
So whether you or anyone else likes it or not I shall continue to voice my opinion, so get use to it.
Sooo very spot on Woolly.
I read the OP a couple of times and i still don't know what he's on about. I know Mick is hotly in favour of developing youth, yet i'm still struggling to fathom whether this is a moan, or a gripe.
Raul, Diop and Lucic.
ThereĀ were financial reasons to move them on.
However, incoming so far seriously lack the steel needed in the English Premier League.
Without going over all the stuff we have said before.
Two things seem to me to be obvious.
The two new boys were AA's signings, TK would never have got these boys from Real, nobody would.
Second the squad is way less good than last season and we have an untried manager who it appears wants to impose a style on players that would seem to be less suited at first glance.
Losing Diop could well rove to be an error of judgment. I know his faults but he had many unsung qualities, Anderson is not as good as expected.
We need to get in a quality midfield enforcer and proper centre half very quickly or the season may simply slip away from us. I think three managers may yet be a good bet if you like a flutter.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
I kind of agree with Mammoth. The Real Madrid/Bayern signings look weak and we've lost Harry Wilson, Raul Jiminez and Diop. The manager's record does not stand out, but I want to give him every chance. Losing Raul & Wilson for nothing is TK's fault.
We need to sort out our defending at corners, has AA changed the marking system and players are getting used to their responsibility at corners, because they seem to be very sloppy defending crosses.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 08, 2026, 10:02:25 PMQuote from: JimĀ© on August 08, 2026, 09:20:04 PMGarcia lightweight? Bloke is like a rugby player.
Hilarious and slightly embarrassing stereotype.
He may be. but we're going to need more like him to punch our weight.
One could argue Wilson was slightly lightweight, did a good job tho didn't he ? Lukic too but packed a punch,
Slightly dated mentality which generally comes from the older generation
Quote from: perry geyton on August 07, 2026, 03:39:21 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
Yeah that's why they were playing for Real Madrid, Gonzalo getting picked over Mbappe
And That's why we have become a steady mid/top half team over the past few seasons then ?
It's so easy to judge and slag off others, maybe just maybe Shahid is proud of what his son has accomplished at FFC
Gonzalo getting picked over MbappeĀ :slap:
20 years ago???? Think you need to check your history.
Quote from: Hatch007 on August 07, 2026, 07:15:24 AMLet's not concede any corners nor free kicks in our defensive third. Simples š¤
Nor in fact allow any opposition possiession in our own half!
Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 08, 2026, 10:37:16 PMWhat other Premier League team would entertain such a set up.
Nepotism hamstrings us.
Surely he needs a bit of applause for what he's pulled off the last few years?
1- consistent Premier League finishes
2- happy, harmonious squad
3- new stand= largest crowds since early 80s (not all on him I know)
4- definite improvement in transfer quality/strategy
5- squad is now becoming more youthful
6- despite the abuse that he received for believing Marco(that he was staying) we appointed a new manager in a quicker time frame than Palace & Man City
7- i know of no other DOF/co owner who would willingly be questioned by a fan/content creator as he did. Open and candid answers, even if he waffled a bit.
Also, why are people going on about the new signings being tiny? They're both 6 foot and Kusu Asare is 6 foot 5. I'd like a more physical presence (height wise) at the back, but those players in forward positions aren't there to win headers at the back (see Wilson for instance). Shea Charles is 6ft2 compared to Lukic. Another weird angle of attack for people that seemingly just need something to moan about.
Ā
Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 08, 2026, 10:32:14 PMQuote from: Deadcowboys on August 07, 2026, 06:51:05 AMMick does make a good point in as much that we are becoming a relatively small team. Add to that, possibly our tallest player Berge can't head the ball. Set pieces will be more difficult to defend this year even if we do bring in a monster centre half. Neither Jimenez previously nor Muniz now compare to Mitro's defensive work.
Very well said.
[/quote SizeĀ wise we've lost Issa who never hardly started Raul and Sasa. Charles is taller than Sasa and most likely a couple of signings will level the rest out. I'm wondering if signing a New Keeper is on the Agenda?
Quote from: Barrett487 on August 08, 2026, 10:56:07 PMI read the OP a couple of times and i still don't know what he's on about. I know Mick is hotly in favour of developing youth, yet i'm still struggling to fathom whether this is a moan, or a gripe.
It's an observation
It's a gripe same as always.
Quote from: MickTheBeard on August 07, 2026, 12:12:54 AMThis process of youth and scouting should have been done when they took over nearly 20 years ago,and I,m not so sure our lunatic of Dof is capable of running the show.Just imagine if the young players don't gel straight away and we get relegated.Yes lukic and dieppe needed changing age and becoming free agents no return on our investment that is where the Dof should have kicked in but where was he no where near Motspur park.I bet he has mark maunders to give him a lift in case he gets lost.I hope for our sake for the long suffering fans from the 50s we have not had success where palace have recently.Just hope the Spaniards maybe 3 no play like their compatriots in the World Cup did notice all three are 5/9 to 5/10 watch corners and set plays,remember tony if we fail don't say that crap after you sign a player com on fulham,this is your last chance to grow a pair.
Given that most of the signings under Silva, who he had more control over, were older Prem experienced players on high wages with little to no sell on value it is a breath of fresh air to sign young talented players. Silva never gave enough opportunities to the young players even when we were safe and he could have integrated more of them into the first team he still didn't. And this constant TK bashing is very boring.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on August 09, 2026, 01:51:06 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
I kind of agree with Mammoth. The Real Madrid/Bayern signings look weak and we've lost Harry Wilson, Raul Jiminez and Diop. The manager's record does not stand out, but I want to give him every chance. Losing Raul & Wilson for nothing is TK's fault.
Wilson didn't want to sign a contract so not sure how that is TK's fault and maybe Raul decided to move on anyway but even so an ageing Raul had to go at some stage so better now that a new manager is coming in.
Quote from: cookieg on August 10, 2026, 01:12:56 PMQuote from: Nick Bateman on August 09, 2026, 01:51:06 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
I kind of agree with Mammoth. The Real Madrid/Bayern signings look weak and we've lost Harry Wilson, Raul Jiminez and Diop. The manager's record does not stand out, but I want to give him every chance. Losing Raul & Wilson for nothing is TK's fault.
Wilson didn't want to sign a contract so not sure how that is TK's fault and maybe Raul decided to move on anyway but even so an ageing Raul had to go at some stage so better now a that a new manager is coming in.
Plus Raul was on silly money, I wonder what wolves are paying him
Quote from: Nick Bateman on August 09, 2026, 01:51:06 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 07, 2026, 03:21:57 PMThese new signings are too
Lightweight and will be found out.
As for TK, he is the weakest link.
If he wasn't his father's son he would have been sacked ages ago.
I kind of agree with Mammoth. The Real Madrid/Bayern signings look weak and we've lost Harry Wilson, Raul Jiminez and Diop. The manager's record does not stand out, but I want to give him every chance. Losing Raul & Wilson for nothing is TK's fault.
Wilson - inconsistent plus injury proneĀ - I think he might of hit his peak last season
Raul - good yes but on silly money $$$$ and only going in one direction, could of kept him for another season as a back up I agree but as mentioned $$$$
Diop - decent but extremely awkward on the ball, not a natural and always capable of making a **** up, Theres better out there
Sasa I'd of tried to extend for another year but apparently he didn't want to, wants to play - fair enough
All our new signings are 6 foot plus
Wooly just has it in for our American owners
Quote from: AJW48361 on August 10, 2026, 10:45:14 AMQuote from: Jims Dentist on August 08, 2026, 10:32:14 PMQuote from: Deadcowboys on August 07, 2026, 06:51:05 AMMick does make a good point in as much that we are becoming a relatively small team. Add to that, possibly our tallest player Berge can't head the ball. Set pieces will be more difficult to defend this year even if we do bring in a monster centre half. Neither Jimenez previously nor Muniz now compare to Mitro's defensive work.
Very well said.
[/quote SizeĀ wise we've lost Issa who never hardly started Raul and Sasa. Charles is taller than Sasa and most likely a couple of signings will level the rest out. I'm wondering if signing a New Keeper is on the Agenda?
If rumours are to be believed and CB Juma Bah should join, that's 6'5 just there.