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Title: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on September 02, 2026, 10:39:19 AM
                                 Leno
Castagne    Andersen       Bassey      Robinson
                      Charles       Berge
            Bobb       Smith Rowe       Kevin
                                Garcia

Subs:
Lecomte
Tete
Affengruber
Larsson
King
Iwobi
Sessegnon
Palacios
Muniz

This is what I'd go with. If Larsson and Affengruber are ready to play I'd be tempted to throw them in, but I think it's probably too soon given they'll have only been in the country since yesterday. But I would at least have them on the bench.

Smith Rowe, Kevin and Charles in, Iwobi, Palacios and King out. But all three to potentially come off the bench.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: twang on September 02, 2026, 10:48:35 AM
Definitely can't bench King as he's our biggest threat.

Leno
Castagne - Affengruber - Bassey - Sessegnon
Berge - Charles
Iwobi - King - Kevin
Garcia

Sess and Kevin is the only combo down the left that has proven any kind of chemistry. Charles next to Berge so that Iwobi can go back to an attacking position where he can focus on creating. Affengruber straight in, there's no point in carry on with Andersen in this system. Zepa first attacking sub if change is needed.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on September 02, 2026, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: twang on September 02, 2026, 10:48:35 AMDefinitely can't bench King as he's our biggest threat.

Leno
Castagne - Affengruber - Bassey - Sessegnon
Berge - Charles
Iwobi - King - Kevin
Garcia

Sess and Kevin is the only combo down the left that has proven any kind of chemistry. Charles next to Berge so that Iwobi can go back to an attacking position where he can focus on creating. Affengruber straight in, there's no point in carry on with Andersen in this system. Zepa first attacking sub if change is needed.
I was torn on King but he looked outmuscled against Sunderland and Palace tend to be quite a physical team as well. Smith Rowe has a good record against them and was in good form against Wimbledon so I think he should at least play 60 minutes.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: General on September 02, 2026, 10:57:24 AM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on September 02, 2026, 10:39:19 AMLeno
Castagne    Andersen       Bassey      Robinson
                      Charles       Berge
            Bobb       Smith Rowe       Kevin
                                Garcia

Subs:
Lecomte
Tete
Affengruber
Larsson
King
Iwobi
Sessegnon
Palacios
Muniz

This is what I'd go with. If Larsson and Affengruber are ready to play I'd be tempted to throw them in, but I think it's probably too soon given they'll have only been in the country since yesterday. But I would at least have them on the bench.

Smith Rowe, Kevin and Charles in, Iwobi, Palacios and King out. But all three to potentially come off the bench.

That for me is our strongest (though perhaps not perfect) team at the moment in terms of getting the balance right. I'd perhaps just switch Bobb for Iwobi as Iwobi carries more of a goal threat, and put Kevin on the right wing instead, with Iwobi playing on the left with Robinson as they seem to have a good understanding with one another. I know people will complain that ESR can be off the pace at times, but he carries a much more real goal threat.

Long term I'd consider switching out Berge for Larsson, and consider giving Sess a run in the side on Left Wing, just because he's one of the few players on our books who seems to have that natural instinct in front of goal, but that can be dependent on whether or not we find a better balance and goal threat without that needing to happen.

Going through this squad though, it's now apparent that we really need to figure out where the goals come from, and our priority in the next windows has to be on the wings at the least with some quality and peace of mind in the final third to find the right ball and balance showmanship with final product (relevant to Bobb and Kevin). Perhaps that also includes a RB.

But give we've got our two new CMs in on six year contracts, the aim must be to give Garcia the best platform possible to put the ball in the back of the net, because he clearly knows how to.

I'd also be curious to see how Garcia and Muniz play together and see if that could work.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: General on September 02, 2026, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: twang on September 02, 2026, 10:48:35 AMDefinitely can't bench King as he's our biggest threat.

Leno
Castagne - Affengruber - Bassey - Sessegnon
Berge - Charles
Iwobi - King - Kevin
Garcia

Sess and Kevin is the only combo down the left that has proven any kind of chemistry. Charles next to Berge so that Iwobi can go back to an attacking position where he can focus on creating. Affengruber straight in, there's no point in carry on with Andersen in this system. Zepa first attacking sub if change is needed.

Think that's more just a result of how we play. He should be our biggest threat, but whilst he gets in to better positions, his decision making and final ball in those positions still lacks that quality. He could be brilliant once he gets that bit figured out, but with two losses and a new manager, we need to just make sure that quality is there at the moment. Give Arbeloa time to work on it in training, develop his ability and confidence perhaps with cameos in the game and in cup matches. He's 19 still, so young and with bags of potential, which is exciting, but he's not quite there yet and we need him to be. His goal against Chelsea, whilst great to see, was a bit of a weak shot and poor gking from Sanchez, so there was a bit of luck to it.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: ffcthereligion on September 02, 2026, 11:33:45 AM
             Leno

Castagne affengruber Bassey Robinson

       Charles Larsson

     Bobb   King   Iwobi

           Gonzalo

Subs: lecomte, tete, Cuenca, sess, palacios, ESR, angel, Kevin, Muniz

New signings straight in please!

No point having Andersen or Berge on the bench. They are both surplus to requirements in this squad and should be discarded for whatever we can get for them IMO. ESR is pretty close to that too for me. Would rather give Zepa a chance than waste any more time with him. He offers something different.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Coast94 on September 02, 2026, 11:39:06 AM
Leno
Castagne, Affengruber, Bassey, Robinson
Berge, Charles
Bobb, King, Iwobi
Gonzalo

Lecomte, Tete, Andersen, Sessegnon, Larsson, Palacios, ESR, Kevin, Muniz
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Moltobueno on September 02, 2026, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: Coast94 on September 02, 2026, 11:39:06 AMLeno
Castagne, Affengruber, Bassey, Robinson
Berge, Charles
Bobb, King, Iwobi
Gonzalo

Lecomte, Tete, Andersen, Sessegnon, Larsson, Palacios, ESR, Kevin, Muniz

Agree with this but I'd like to see Zepa on the bench aswell
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Southcoastffc on September 02, 2026, 12:25:04 PM
I'd be very surprised if AA starts Affengruber just 3 days after he joins.  Similarly, I'd be surprised if he benches Palacios, whom he very obviously rates highly.  So, I imagine Andersen will start

Leno

Castagne
Andersen
Bassey
Robinson/Sess (I can't decided who he'll plump for)

Berge
Charles

Bobb
King
Palacios

Garcia
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: KentFulham on September 02, 2026, 12:25:37 PM
Time to drop AR again, Sess in, he works better with Kevin, and there is much more of a goal threat that having AR on
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Chi_FFC on September 02, 2026, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on September 02, 2026, 10:39:19 AMLeno
Castagne    Andersen       Bassey      Robinson
                      Charles       Berge
            Bobb       Smith Rowe       Kevin
                                Garcia
Iwobi for Kevin but otherwise that's probably what I'd go with.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Thailand Mick on September 02, 2026, 02:21:27 PM
         Leno
Tim Affengruber Bassey Sess
        Charles
Bobb King Larsson kevin
        Garcia
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: KentFulham on September 02, 2026, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on September 02, 2026, 02:21:27 PMLeno
Tim Affengruber Bassey Sess
        Charles
Bobb King Larsson kevin
        Garcia

Looks good to me, Adds much more goal threats
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Angus Telford on September 02, 2026, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on September 02, 2026, 11:33:45 AMLeno

Castagne affengruber Bassey Robinson

       Charles Larsson

     Bobb   King   Iwobi

           Gonzalo

Subs: lecomte, tete, Cuenca, sess, palacios, ESR, angel, Kevin, Muniz

New signings straight in please!

No point having Andersen or Berge on the bench. They are both surplus to requirements in this squad and should be discarded for whatever we can get for them IMO. ESR is pretty close to that too for me. Would rather give Zepa a chance than waste any more time with him. He offers something different.

I could agree with your starting XI but certainly not the take on Anderson, ESR or Berge.

If Silva can recycle Tim 'Zimmerframe' Ream into a solid PL defender, then AA can make a decent backup CB out of Anderson, who remains a quality CB on most metrics.

ESR is also quality and interchangeable with King based on form/fitness IMO.

Berge, again don't give a to&& about him not having some hypercomplex esoteric combination of attributes that "suit Arbeloa's style", he's a top quality CM and should either be starting or rotated with Charles and Larsson based on form and fitness week by week over the season.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: FFC007 on September 02, 2026, 03:04:02 PM
I'd ditch Leno for starters... has gone totally off the boil and is a liability.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Hatch007 on September 02, 2026, 03:10:16 PM
So you'd start Lecomte against Palace?
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Fulham 1879 on September 02, 2026, 03:14:16 PM
              Leno
Castagne Andersen Bassey Robinson
          Charles Reed
        Zepa King Iwobi
              Garcia
Marginal preference for Reed over Berge. At least Reed puts it about a bit. Once Larsson gets his feet under the table then he plays instead. Toss up between Iwobi and Palacios. Just gave Iwobi the nod as the player with most assists last season.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: F(f)CUK on September 02, 2026, 03:16:52 PM
If any of the new signings start it will demonstrate how naive our manager is. Particularly Affengruber has to bed in and understand the way that we play.

Would be harsh on Cuenca if he is dropped from the bench. Could only see Larsson making the bench of the 3. That could be harsh on Berge or Charles, or possibly Iwobi.

I always understood Silva's reluctance to introduce players quickly. He always said that he wanted the new players to at least know the names of the people in the team.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: WindyCity on September 02, 2026, 03:28:28 PM
Quote from: twang on September 02, 2026, 10:48:35 AMDefinitely can't bench King as he's our biggest threat.

Agreed.  Sure, he's gonna get muscled off the ball on occasion, but he has been our best (and seemingly only) scoring threat so far in first two games.  Should be starter until he shows he can't perform at level, it's his spot to lose, at present.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Colton F.C. on September 02, 2026, 03:33:48 PM
              Leno
Castagne Andersen Bassey Robinson
          Charles Berge
        Zepa King Sessegnon
              Garcia
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: The Cravenette on September 02, 2026, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Moltobueno on September 02, 2026, 12:23:40 PM
Quote from: Coast94 on September 02, 2026, 11:39:06 AMLeno
Castagne, Affengruber, Bassey, Robinson
Berge, Charles
Bobb, King, Iwobi
Gonzalo

Lecomte, Tete, Andersen, Sessegnon, Larsson, Palacios, ESR, Kevin, Muniz

Agree with this but I'd like to see Zepa on the bench aswell

Also agree with this line up. Zepa would be good for options and I wouldn't mind seeing Àngel either but maybe he will get a run out in the cup match.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on September 02, 2026, 04:11:47 PM
I'd definitely drop Andersen against Palace.

From memory last season he absolutely had his pants pulled down.

Put the speedy Austrian in.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: demeant0r on September 02, 2026, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Coast94 on September 02, 2026, 11:39:06 AMLeno
Castagne, Affengruber, Bassey, Robinson
Berge, Charles
Bobb, King, Iwobi
Gonzalo

Lecomte, Tete, Andersen, Sessegnon, Larsson, Palacios, ESR, Kevin, Muniz

This would be my team vs Palace too but I'm afraid, just like Marco has his favrourites, so too does AA. Palacios is 100% going to start on the left, even though he's not a good winger.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Porthogs FC on September 02, 2026, 05:13:46 PM
Expect minimal shuffling. That will happen during the international break.

Leno
Cast, And, Bass, Rob
Charles Berge
Iwobi, King, Palacios
Garcia.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: EN1 FFC on September 02, 2026, 05:37:36 PM
It's been reported Larsson has been out with a Muscle Strain and hasn't played any games yet, so expect he's not in the squad for Palace unless it was a phantom transfer injury.
I Keep hearing that Kenny Tete can play Right Centre-back, may be now is the time to test that theory.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Jules on September 02, 2026, 07:23:33 PM
This game is huge. Lose it and it is highly likely we go without a point first 5 games with Liv and Man U to follow. We must set up to attack in key moments but not leave ourselves exposed by their counter attacks. I suspect however he will start the same team as last week aside from Charles for Iwobi with our new signings on the bench.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: sarnian on September 02, 2026, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on September 02, 2026, 05:37:36 PMIt's been reported Larsson has been out with a Muscle Strain and hasn't played any games yet, so expect he's not in the squad for Palace unless it was a phantom transfer injury.
I Keep hearing that Kenny Tete can play Right Centre-back, may be now is the time to test that theory.

Larsson looked fit enough in training video
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: @jolslover on September 02, 2026, 07:45:29 PM
Some rogue shouts on this thread so far: starting Reed and Zepa? benching King? (clearly been our best player this season so far)

Would be tempted to go with the below...

Leno, Castagne Affengruber Bassey Robinson, Berge Larsson King, Bobb Garcia Palacios

If Arbeloa doesn't feel like throwing the new boys in swap Charles for Larsson and Andersen for Affengruber
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: KentFulham on September 02, 2026, 08:52:19 PM
Can anyone explain how AR keeps his spot?
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Willham on September 02, 2026, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: FFC007 on September 02, 2026, 03:04:02 PMI'd ditch Leno for starters... has gone totally off the boil and is a liability.

I often forget about the pedigree of Lecomte, he's been around and played at a good level throughtout his career.

I wouldn't be against giving him a chance too, Leno has been POOR at the start of this year,
Last year he had moments but this year he seems all over the place, his decision making has been sooo bad!
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: steed on September 02, 2026, 11:06:35 PM
Can I just ask, why is no one picking tete? When last season he was everyone's first choice? Is it the Everton thing?
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Mullers OG on September 02, 2026, 11:48:23 PM
Lecompte

Castagne. Andersen. Bassey. Sess

       Charles.  Berge

              King

Bobb.      Garcia.    Kevin
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Moltobueno on September 03, 2026, 06:33:02 AM
Quote from: steed on September 02, 2026, 11:06:35 PMCan I just ask, why is no one picking tete? When last season he was everyone's first choice? Is it the Everton thing?

I think it's just Castagne being in great form at the moment
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Pavel Dempsey on September 03, 2026, 07:51:58 AM
                      Leno

Castagne    Affengruber     Bassey     Robinson
                     
               Charles     Berge
           
         King      Smith Rowe      Kevin
                               
                     Garcia
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: FFC007 on September 03, 2026, 08:07:06 AM
Kevin also needs to start producing the goods..

With all the new talent bought into the club now, anyone who starts to produce dross can be easily hooked...
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: ffcthereligion on September 03, 2026, 08:43:23 AM
Quote from: Angus Telford on September 02, 2026, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on September 02, 2026, 11:33:45 AMLeno

Castagne affengruber Bassey Robinson

       Charles Larsson

     Bobb   King   Iwobi

           Gonzalo

Subs: lecomte, tete, Cuenca, sess, palacios, ESR, angel, Kevin, Muniz

New signings straight in please!

No point having Andersen or Berge on the bench. They are both surplus to requirements in this squad and should be discarded for whatever we can get for them IMO. ESR is pretty close to that too for me. Would rather give Zepa a chance than waste any more time with him. He offers something different.

I could agree with your starting XI but certainly not the take on Anderson, ESR or Berge.

If Silva can recycle Tim 'Zimmerframe' Ream into a solid PL defender, then AA can make a decent backup CB out of Anderson, who remains a quality CB on most metrics.

ESR is also quality and interchangeable with King based on form/fitness IMO.

Berge, again don't give a to&& about him not having some hypercomplex esoteric combination of attributes that "suit Arbeloa's style", he's a top quality CM and should either be starting or rotated with Charles and Larsson based on form and fitness week by week over the season.

I saw you make this point about the need for Arbeloa to adapt to where our players are at and the success hodgson had in doing so and I absolutely agree with it. However, unfortunately, it's not the modern way and wont happen. The game has moved on and 'systems' are king. Managers now get more credit for relegating sides with dogmatism than they do keeping them up with pragmatism. Everything we've heard and seen from AA suggests he's not going to change his approach

As for ESR and Berge being quality, that is where we will have to disagree! I don't feel I've seen anything from them to make me believe that
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Angus Telford on September 03, 2026, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on September 03, 2026, 08:43:23 AM
Quote from: Angus Telford on September 02, 2026, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: ffcthereligion on September 02, 2026, 11:33:45 AMLeno

Castagne affengruber Bassey Robinson

       Charles Larsson

     Bobb   King   Iwobi

           Gonzalo

Subs: lecomte, tete, Cuenca, sess, palacios, ESR, angel, Kevin, Muniz

New signings straight in please!

No point having Andersen or Berge on the bench. They are both surplus to requirements in this squad and should be discarded for whatever we can get for them IMO. ESR is pretty close to that too for me. Would rather give Zepa a chance than waste any more time with him. He offers something different.

I could agree with your starting XI but certainly not the take on Anderson, ESR or Berge.

If Silva can recycle Tim 'Zimmerframe' Ream into a solid PL defender, then AA can make a decent backup CB out of Anderson, who remains a quality CB on most metrics.

ESR is also quality and interchangeable with King based on form/fitness IMO.

Berge, again don't give a to&& about him not having some hypercomplex esoteric combination of attributes that "suit Arbeloa's style", he's a top quality CM and should either be starting or rotated with Charles and Larsson based on form and fitness week by week over the season.

I saw you make this point about the need for Arbeloa to adapt to where our players are at and the success hodgson had in doing so and I absolutely agree with it. However, unfortunately, it's not the modern way and wont happen. The game has moved on and 'systems' are king. Managers now get more credit for relegating sides with dogmatism than they do keeping them up with pragmatism. Everything we've heard and seen from AA suggests he's not going to change his approach

As for ESR and Berge being quality, that is where we will have to disagree! I don't feel I've seen anything from them to make me believe that

Yeah fair enough  ::thumb::
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: fulhamfan on September 03, 2026, 09:14:10 AM
                      Leno

Castagne    Affengruber     Bassey     Robinson
                     
               Charles     Berge
           
         Bobb         King      Iwobi
                               
                     Garcia


If Bobb is shite again get Zepa on
Same with Iwobi. Get Kevin on.
Smith Rowe on for King
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Colton F.C. on September 03, 2026, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: EN1 FFC on September 02, 2026, 05:37:36 PMIt's been reported Larsson has been out with a Muscle Strain and hasn't played any games yet, so expect he's not in the squad for Palace unless it was a phantom transfer injury.
I Keep hearing that Kenny Tete can play Right Centre-back, may be now is the time to test that theory.

Oi Oi Mark 2 !  ::scarf::  ::scarf::
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Jims Dentist on September 03, 2026, 09:38:20 PM
From what we hear, the Austrian is quicker than Andersen and braver when blocking shots.
But Andersen is taller and better in the air.
I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised if AA included Palacios again.😒
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on September 04, 2026, 10:07:16 AM
Arbeloa has just said in his press conference "I'm very happy with these new players. It's a little early for these three players (for tomorrow). These players need a little bit of time". So safe to say they won't be involved.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: C Block on September 04, 2026, 11:54:15 AM
Shea Charles to start and Alex Iwobi to be moved.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: WindyCity on September 04, 2026, 03:34:34 PM
A bit of a break for FFC with Mateta apparently not available for this match
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Matt10 on September 04, 2026, 04:53:25 PM
Think it'll be a small change with putting Charles in next to Berge, and from there it's mainly Palacios vs Iwobi. I think Iwobi will keep his spot, but Palacios sees the field early.

Think the deadline day signings will all see the field at some point. Affengruber for Andersen for when we start to press with the high line, Larsson in for Berge with Charles switching to the 6 (Berge) and Angel at some point although I'm not sure where.

             
                  Leno

Tete  Andersen    Bassey  Jedi

        Charles    Berge

  Bobb        King        Iwobi

              Garcia
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: FFC007 on September 04, 2026, 07:08:55 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on September 04, 2026, 03:34:34 PMA bit of a break for FFC with Mateta apparently not available for this match

No Sarr either..
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: FFC007 on September 04, 2026, 07:09:25 PM
If Oscar Bobb has another stinker tomorrow he needs hooking for the next match.

Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Bassey the warrior on September 05, 2026, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: C Block on September 04, 2026, 11:54:15 AMShea Charles to start and Alex Iwobi to be moved.

This would be my guess too. I'll be a bit peed off if he doesn't make that change actually, Charles definitely needs to start.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Bassey the warrior on September 05, 2026, 09:50:50 AM
We have pretty poor record against Palace recently. Sitting deep to shut down the passing lanes and attack at speed. Big test for Arbeloa's system.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: SP on September 05, 2026, 10:01:17 AM
Guessing AA will want to play our way rather than try to out Palace Palace?
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Hugh Janus on September 05, 2026, 10:19:10 AM
LECOMTE
TIMMY JOA BASSEY JEDI
             CHARLES BERGE
IWOBI KING KEVIN-ELEVEN
GONZALO

I love Leno but his distribution isn't good enough at present.

I wouldn't let both full backs get high simultaneously. It's hurting us.

We also have to get chestnuts to hold his width. Too often he tucks in and kills the option JOA needs to beat their press.
Title: Re: Team for Crystal Palace
Post by: Deuce on September 05, 2026, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on September 02, 2026, 12:25:04 PMI'd be very surprised if AA starts Affengruber just 3 days after he joins.  Similarly, I'd be surprised if he benches Palacios, whom he very obviously rates highly.  So, I imagine Andersen will start

Leno

Castagne
Andersen
Bassey
Robinson/Sess (I can't decided who he'll plump for)

Berge
Charles

Bobb
King
Palacios

Garcia

I think this is correct. The only thing I could think of is Iwobi instead of Palacios on the wing, but I do think AA wants to keep Palacios and not bench him just yet.