Fulham have only 2
I suppose that shows why England does so badly in the World Cup.
Is this the same across the PL?
Chelsea first did this 20 years ago. England - 2 semis and a quarter in the last 3 world cups = so badly?
My point is if there are so few English players getting first team football, how can we hope for a good English team? There are actually zero British players on Liverpool and only the two English players on Fulham's starting 11
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought England finished third in the recent World Cup, which I believe is quite a good result.
One answer is to get more English players playing in top leagues abroad. Then it matters less whether (eg) Brighton have English players in their starting line-up or not.
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on September 12, 2026, 03:58:03 PMOne answer is to get more English players playing in top leagues abroad. Then it matters less whether (eg) Brighton have English players in their starting line-up or not.
Completely agree with this. I have long felt that time spent gaining the right overseas experience can hugely improve a player.
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on September 12, 2026, 03:58:03 PMOne answer is to get more English players playing in top leagues abroad. Then it matters less whether (eg) Brighton have English players in their starting line-up or not.
Completely agree with this. I have long felt that time spent gaining the right overseas experience can hugely improve a player.
The scousers are probably quite happy about that. They've always wanted to be separate to England and be their own Republic.
Robinson - is English
King - English
Charles - English
Just because they choose to play for other countries does not mean they are not English. All 3 born and raised in England.
Quote from: fulhamfever on September 13, 2026, 09:49:46 AMRobinson - is English
King - English
Charles - English
Just because they choose to play for other countries does not mean they are not English. All 3 born and raised in England.
King plays for England...
Iwobi and Bassey were both also eligible to play for England, so in this context should count as well.
Quote from: terryr on September 12, 2026, 03:01:16 PMFulham have only 2
I suppose that shows why England does so badly in the World Cup.
Is this the same across the PL?
Assuming you mean King as one of the two in Fulham's starting lineup, who was the other one?
I think all of Robinson, Charles, Iwobi and Bassey have been eligible previously as mentioned here. Did I miss anyone?
Quote from: Sting of the North on September 13, 2026, 12:00:29 PMQuote from: fulhamfever on September 13, 2026, 09:49:46 AMRobinson - is English
King - English
Charles - English
Just because they choose to play for other countries does not mean they are not English. All 3 born and raised in England.
King plays for England...
Iwobi and Bassey were both also eligible to play for England, so in this context should count as well.
Iwobi born in Lagos
Bassey born in Italy
I'm only going off place of birth
Quote from: fulhamfever on September 13, 2026, 01:08:22 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on September 13, 2026, 12:00:29 PMQuote from: fulhamfever on September 13, 2026, 09:49:46 AMRobinson - is English
King - English
Charles - English
Just because they choose to play for other countries does not mean they are not English. All 3 born and raised in England.
King plays for England...
Iwobi and Bassey were both also eligible to play for England, so in this context should count as well.
Iwobi born in Lagos
Bassey born in Italy
I'm only going off place of birth
Sure, and I pointed out the flaw in that, since you can be English without being born in England, as I would have to assume that you know. Especially in relation to the discussion about the England team, since all of those mentioned have been eligible for selection, before opting to play for other countries (except for King).
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on September 12, 2026, 03:58:03 PMOne answer is to get more English players playing in top leagues abroad. Then it matters less whether (eg) Brighton have English players in their starting line-up or not.
We have seen a notable increase in this in recent years I'd say. Kane and Bellingham obvious examples. But there's also been Quansah, Sancho, Nwaneri, Jobe Bellingham, Norton Cuffy just came back to PL via Genoa, Maitland Niles was at Lyon.
Edit: Also forgot Gordon at Barca and Trent at Real too.