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Title: AA's last stand
Post by: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PM
Anybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: @jolslover on October 23, 2026, 01:24:50 PM
No, saw a good performance against Hull and more importantly the players are clearly behind him - Iwobi, Bassey and King have all come out and said so over the last week. I hope we win and if he doesn't then I'm sure pressure will be on but I don't think he would be sacked if we draw and play well.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: ffc73 on October 23, 2026, 01:33:18 PM
Only another 31 league games for this question to be asked  ::bump::

before we (hopefully) bemoan AA being poached by a "big" club due to the fantastic season we've experienced.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PM
Other than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games. The football is pleasing to watch and we create better chances than we have done for the last few seasons. Just need the players to take those chances or be replaced early enough for the sub to be given a reasonable chance to impress.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: JimmyConway on October 23, 2026, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PMAnybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.
Don't see us pulling the trigger even if we draw personally. Other results might have a bearing but if they were are they giving new man a free hit at Villa next week? I don't see any change until next International break but then the first game after that is Man City away! Newcastle at home might be pivotal and gives them 2 weeks? Likelihood is they have someone ready to go and you would imagine Periera is a strong candidate considering the rumours he was there at the Hull game?
Still think considering they threw all there eggs into this one basket Arbeloa is safe though if defeated tomorrow at Coventry it might be the manner of defeat that could have a bearing on whether he continues. Can't see any reason of a lacklustre performance at Coventry personally.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: AshfordFFC on October 23, 2026, 01:41:55 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on October 23, 2026, 01:24:50 PMNo, saw a good performance against Hull and more importantly the players are clearly behind him - Iwobi, Bassey and King have all come out and said so over the last week. I hope we win and if he doesn't then I'm sure pressure will be on but I don't think he would be sacked if we draw and play well.

I would say that all the performances have been good just not the end result but aside from that 100% with everything  ::thumb::
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Jim© on October 23, 2026, 01:54:41 PM
Quote from: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PMAnybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.

Nope, time for a change from the fans that want him out IMO.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Yamus on October 23, 2026, 02:09:15 PM
So it's the managers fault that neither King Garcia Bassey and everybody else who had the opportunity to score but didn't.

Really
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: I Ronic on October 23, 2026, 02:09:33 PM
I'll forgo the short answer for a detailed  critique. No.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 23, 2026, 02:23:23 PM
Nope
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PM
I can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Jimsbeerbelly on October 23, 2026, 02:27:19 PM
He at least needs to escape defeat, so I'll bite your hand off for a draw away to Coventry, which is never a happy hunting ground for us.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: perry geyton on October 23, 2026, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Nah his substitutions have been atrocious

No need to make 5 changes in every single game, only decent one he's made was putting Tom on for the last 20 against Hull

Hopefully he's learnt from his mistakes and a nice healthy 3 points away at Coventry on Saturday will calm things down
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PM
Let's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Andrew on October 23, 2026, 03:12:47 PM
I do not think on a day when the weather could make this a total lottery i wouldn't pre-judge anything.

We won in style last week so let's see if we lay with a swagger or go out with a whimper.

I hope we do brilliantly
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: alfie on October 23, 2026, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 23, 2026, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Nah his substitutions have been atrocious

No need to make 5 changes in every single game, only decent one he's made was putting Tom on for the last 20 against Hull

Hopefully he's learnt from his mistakes and a nice healthy 3 points away at Coventry on Saturday will calm things down
Palacios against Hull was a good one, making sure we kept hold of the ball rather than booting up the field in the hope that Muniz might get it if he was put on instead.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Grassy Noel on October 23, 2026, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
You also managed to survive the Ice Age.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Grassy Noel on October 23, 2026, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.
He did get one although the ball rather fell onto his head.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Southcoastffc on October 23, 2026, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PMAnybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.
No.  Simply no.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: demeant0r on October 23, 2026, 03:50:09 PM
If we got anything but a dominant (performance-wise) win vs Hull, I'd have said that anything but a win vs Coventry or he should be sacked.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Jim© on October 23, 2026, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

Should Shearer have been dropped when he couldn't score for 5 or 6 games?
Bench Rooney as he hasn't scored for a few games?
Pop Kane on the bench, he's not found the net for 5 games?

Come on, you can see the bloke will score, just going through a rough patch. I conversely hope AA has the courage to start Garcia.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Deeping_white on October 23, 2026, 04:05:47 PM
No need to drop GG because he's accumulating a decent xG which means he is consistently getting in the right place for chances, and over time that would infer that he will start scoring. Better than having a player who doesn't create much xG because then you get someone like Wilson who has a 6 week purple patch before returning to their baseline of a much poorer player. If you don't believe in that notion I direct you to Brentford (for those on here who think they're the gods of recruitment) who look for strikers who consistently generate xG even if they underperform against it because it means that they are doing the basics right and goals will follow.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

from my point of view it's not the player but using all five subs when we were winning or drawing, last week he only used three. I also felt that Muniz should have been on earlier in some of those games.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: @jolslover on October 23, 2026, 04:14:45 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 23, 2026, 04:05:47 PMNo need to drop GG because he's accumulating a decent xG which means he is consistently getting in the right place for chances, and over time that would infer that he will start scoring. Better than having a player who doesn't create much xG because then you get someone like Wilson who has a 6 week purple patch before returning to their baseline of a much poorer player. If you don't believe in that notion I direct you to Brentford (for those on here who think they're the gods of recruitment) who look for strikers who consistently generate xG even if they underperform against it because it means that they are doing the basics right and goals will follow.

Spot on, saw Brentfords owner saying this after they signed Thiago and he had a slow start
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: WindyCity on October 23, 2026, 04:47:36 PM
Can't see, nor would recommend, AA's dropping pending Coventry result.  Sure, we need to see a win, or a draw at the very least, to stay above water and not become firmly ensconced in the drop zone.  Lots of games yet to be played, and I would argue that much more will be learned over the next handful of games prior to the next break.  The only possible exception to this might be, if for some reason, we were to get trounced at Coventry, by, say, four or more goals.  Then I could see fans yelling for change, and this forum going full on meltdown.  I would still stick with AA.  Trusting that will not be the case, and we come away with three points.  Last 4 are D-D-L-W, so to be fair the trend is looking much better, and the L was largely due to some poor late decision making.  COYW!
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Grassy Noel on October 23, 2026, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
You also managed to survive the Ice Age.

Indeed, we didn't need any fridges or freezers in those days. That is when I met the bloke who invented the wheel. He was a caveman his name was Ugg.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: sunburywhite on October 23, 2026, 05:06:30 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.

Were you there?
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: sunburywhite on October 23, 2026, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Grassy Noel on October 23, 2026, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
You also managed to survive the Ice Age.

And he then invented boots
Indeed, we didn't need any fridges or freezers in those days. That is when I met the bloke who invented the wheel. He was a caveman his name was Ugg.


And then he invented footware
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on October 23, 2026, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: Grassy Noel on October 23, 2026, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
You also managed to survive the Ice Age.

And he then invented boots
Indeed, we didn't need any fridges or freezers in those days. That is when I met the bloke who invented the wheel. He was a caveman his name was Ugg.


And then he invented footware

I asked him why did he invent the wheel
He replied " to make chasing 🦣 Mammoths easier".
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Wandsworthboy on October 23, 2026, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PMAnybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.
Before the Hull game I would have said yes. But since then and the way the team played last week amid all the rumours of dressing room uncertainty, it's clear that the players are all with AA. So for now no but of course that can all change with a few crap performances and results to match. I do worry though about GG not converting seemingly good opportunities. That will come back to bite us on the backside if it doesn't change soon.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 23, 2026, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 23, 2026, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 23, 2026, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Nah his substitutions have been atrocious

No need to make 5 changes in every single game, only decent one he's made was putting Tom on for the last 20 against Hull

Hopefully he's learnt from his mistakes and a nice healthy 3 points away at Coventry on Saturday will calm things down
Palacios against Hull was a good one, making sure we kept hold of the ball rather than booting up the field in the hope that Muniz might get it if he was put on instead.


In your opinion it was a good one. Personally I still disagree with you.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 23, 2026, 07:49:31 PM
I see no reason to drop GG, he has to persist with him until it is absolutely clear whether the guy is a permanent nearly man or a genuine striker. Right now we can all have opinions but that is all they are.
I doubt the Board would sack AA yet, they have invested so heavily in him. Personally I would only ask for him to go if we get embarrassed by Coventry tomorrow. I am expecting at least a point but if we lose narrowly we just have to move on. Get thumped and he should go.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on October 23, 2026, 05:06:30 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.

Were you there?

Fortunately no, I was engaged on another mission grazing on the prairie with a female Buffalo for company.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on October 23, 2026, 09:04:03 PM
Depends on the performance, but 1 win against the promoted sides really isn't good enough.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:45:23 AM
Quote from: South Coast White on October 23, 2026, 01:23:25 PMAnybody agree with me that if anything other than a win tomorrow at Coventry,its time for a change.

Jesus wept.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Karlos on October 24, 2026, 08:54:05 AM
Today every bit as big as last week

Seems mad only 7 games in your talking about 6 pointers but anything other than a win today is going to cloud the club in negativity and uncertainty which would really have me fearing for what comes next.

A win however would mean 2 in 2 and point to a real upwards trajectory and would install the confidence in the team and fanbase that the project is worth sticking by

1 nil win will do, Coventry are no mugs and beating anyone away in the EPL is a great result
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Pock on October 24, 2026, 09:08:40 AM
No, the football is good, the squad are playing for him, if they put on their shooting boots someone is going to get a hammering. COYW.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Pock on October 24, 2026, 09:09:21 AM
No, the football is good, the squad are playing for him, if they put on their shooting boots someone is going to get a hammering. COYW.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Yamus on October 24, 2026, 09:53:01 AM
I think you will find that it's the individual at fault not the manager
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink it.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: alfie on October 24, 2026, 10:15:36 AM
Quote from: Twig on October 23, 2026, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 23, 2026, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 23, 2026, 02:32:02 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Nah his substitutions have been atrocious

No need to make 5 changes in every single game, only decent one he's made was putting Tom on for the last 20 against Hull

Hopefully he's learnt from his mistakes and a nice healthy 3 points away at Coventry on Saturday will calm things down
Palacios against Hull was a good one, making sure we kept hold of the ball rather than booting up the field in the hope that Muniz might get it if he was put on instead.


In your opinion it was a good one. Personally I still disagree with you.
It worked so for me it was a good sub, if Muniz came on and the ball was launched up to him and he lost it which put them on attack, we would be saying that was a bad sub, just hypothetical I know, each to their own thoughts.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: SuffolkWhite on October 24, 2026, 10:47:25 AM
Assess AA after 10 games!
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on October 24, 2026, 10:47:25 AMAssess AA after 10 games!

Yes that was what I said at the start of this venture and I think that is probably right. However in the unlikely event that Coventry give us a right thumping then it might become difficult to wait. Otherwise the ten game mark seems about right.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Mullers OG on October 24, 2026, 01:04:16 PM
I hope very much that my initial impression of Garcia is wrong and that he comes good and scores a shed full of goals. I fear however that we may have made a serious expensive mistake.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: FFC In Oz on October 24, 2026, 02:00:58 PM
I think barring disaster v the 3 promoted sides, the plan would always have been to assess after Newcastle (i.e. the international break).
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.
Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.


Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!

Yes I was there being chased by a herd of Buffalo, a pack of Wolves and a Grizzly Bear with piles.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.

The difference is, I'm hoping for our players to do well.  ::wink::
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Clint McBride on October 24, 2026, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Well we know that Garcia is fit ..... just not confident !!  At least in front of goal .... MULTIPLE times
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Southcoastffc on October 24, 2026, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: Clint McBride on October 24, 2026, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Simunch on October 23, 2026, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on October 23, 2026, 01:35:56 PMOther than substitutions don't think anyone could of done better setting up the team for the last four games.

I always wonder about supporters questioning teams and substitutions made.

I think it is difficult to know precisely what the manager knows about each players current fitness status. Just because a player is listed in the main team or as a sub doesn't mean they 100% fit and confident. It seems easy as a supporter to just presume they all are.

Well we know that Garcia is fit ..... just not confident !!  At least in front of goal .... MULTIPLE times
It does not help Garcia that again today he had negligible service.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 24, 2026, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.

The difference is, I'm hoping for our players to do well.  ::wink::

I doubt there is a single person on here hoping for our players to do anything other than well. The difference is that you don't like it when others voice criticism. You need to appreciate that it doesn't mean they want us to do poorly, just that they see some things they feel the need to be critical of.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.

The difference is, I'm hoping for our players to do well.  ::wink::

I doubt there is a single person on here hoping for our players to do anything other than well. The difference is that you don't like it when others voice criticism. You need to appreciate that it doesn't mean they want us to do poorly, just that they see some things they feel the need to be critical of.

On one thread there were some posters who were hoping we would lose at against Hull so AA would be shown the door. I've never understood why anyone would want their team to lose. I hope there will be some embarrassment among some supporters who were very critical of AA virtually from day one. Still a long way to go but I've always been confident AA will get it right as I am in Garcia. On wards and upwards.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Luka on October 24, 2026, 05:47:18 PM
I'm desperate for Garcia to succeed.
There is a great player in there somewhere but I'm beginning to wonder if he's playing out of position. He just doesn't look like a centre forward at the moment.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on October 24, 2026, 05:51:25 PM
 I understand what he's trying to do and we did need a change to avoid falling behind the PL pack but I'm still not convinced about AA.

However, if we continue to pick up points as we have recently he will win me over.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 05:15:42 PMI doubt there is a single person on here hoping for our players to do anything other than well. The difference is that you don't like it when others voice criticism. You need to appreciate that it doesn't mean they want us to do poorly, just that they see some things they feel the need to be critical of.

Fair enough.
I just think it's a bit hypocritical that you feel you have the right to voice criticism and, contrary to what you might think, I'm happy for you to do so, but then you're offended by my criticism of your criticism.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Coastwalker on October 24, 2026, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: Luka on October 24, 2026, 05:47:18 PMI'm desperate for Garcia to succeed.
There is a great player in there somewhere but I'm beginning to wonder if he's playing out of position. He just doesn't look like a centre forward at the moment.

Correct,he doesn't even look like a striker,spends more time all over the place,even back in his own half.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Fulham Tup North on October 24, 2026, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.


Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!
I was there being chased by a herd of Buffalo, a pack of Wolves and a Grizzly Bear with piles.
TBF if he had piles, that may explain why he was Grizzly !!
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Whitestone on October 24, 2026, 09:17:15 PM
It didn't sound like AA's last stand at the CBS Arena today. When he came over to the fans at the end of the game he was greeted with chants of Arbeloa's black and white army. A week in football is a long time in football.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on October 24, 2026, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.


Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!
I was there being chased by a herd of Buffalo, a pack of Wolves and a Grizzly Bear with piles.
TBF if he had piles, that may explain why he was Grizzly !!

Blimey I never thought of that, I thought he was just grizzly because I beat him in a Yard of Ale contest.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: hovewhite on October 24, 2026, 09:27:21 PM
When AA was given the job i was excited then season started enthusiasm dimmed for a couple of games but firmly back to believing in him,also taking Raul and wilson out,those that have joined managers journey think we are still stronger in the long term.
Keep the faith also when in 50 years of supporting Fulham has just never been just about the ups  but downs too.
COYW
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Fulham Tup North on October 24, 2026, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on October 24, 2026, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.


Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!
I was there being chased by a herd of Buffalo, a pack of Wolves and a Grizzly Bear with piles.
TBF if he had piles, that may explain why he was Grizzly !!

Blimey I never thought of that, I thought he was just grizzly because I beat him in a Yard of Ale contest.
Would that mean it was filled with Grizzly Beer??...
😆
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Twig on October 24, 2026, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.

The difference is, I'm hoping for our players to do well.  ::wink::

I doubt there is a single person on here hoping for our players to do anything other than well. The difference is that you don't like it when others voice criticism. You need to appreciate that it doesn't mean they want us to do poorly, just that they see some things they feel the need to be critical of.

On one thread there were some posters who were hoping we would lose at against Hull so AA would be shown the door. I've never understood why anyone would want their team to lose. I hope there will be some embarrassment among some supporters who were very critical of AA virtually from day one. Still a long way to go but I've always been confident AA will get it right as I am in Garcia. On wards and upwards.

I knew someone would bring that up. Almost everyone on that thread said they were conflicted (in so many words).
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Wandsworthboy on October 24, 2026, 10:09:55 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 24, 2026, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: cwindsor on October 24, 2026, 01:54:17 AM
Quote from: cookieg on October 24, 2026, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 23, 2026, 03:11:26 PMLet's just hope for a win and to delay the inevitable for a while. If A has the courage to drop Garcia then we stand a chance. A non scoring striker who can't head betrays poor scouting.

So we put in another non scoring forward?

Good point. And Garcia only has one goal less than King. But he does cover back defensively, very much in the Willian style.
At some point this season, I hope there are a number of people who are embarrassed by their opinions of Garcia.
But I live in hope.


Thing is you could equally be embarrassed by your opinion by season end. The difference is I don't hope for your embarrassment. Always find it strange when posters with very strong opinions get so aggressive towards those who have a different pov.

The difference is, I'm hoping for our players to do well.  ::wink::

I doubt there is a single person on here hoping for our players to do anything other than well. The difference is that you don't like it when others voice criticism. You need to appreciate that it doesn't mean they want us to do poorly, just that they see some things they feel the need to be critical of.

On one thread there were some posters who were hoping we would lose at against Hull so AA would be shown the door. I've never understood why anyone would want their team to lose. I hope there will be some embarrassment among some supporters who were very critical of AA virtually from day one. Still a long way to go but I've always been confident AA will get it right as I am in Garcia. On wards and upwards.

I knew someone would bring that up. Almost everyone on that thread said they were conflicted (in so many words).
Fully agree (i know you mean critical, not conflicted). Now is not the time for nit picking.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: FFC007 on October 24, 2026, 10:11:52 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on October 24, 2026, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 24, 2026, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 24, 2026, 02:05:53 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 23, 2026, 02:23:43 PMI can remember General George Armstrong Custers last stand at the Battle of the Little Bighorn on June 25/26 in 1876. Along the Little Bighorn River.


Well! I knew mammoths were around for a long time Woolly!
I was there being chased by a herd of Buffalo, a pack of Wolves and a Grizzly Bear with piles.
TBF if he had piles, that may explain why he was Grizzly !!

Blimey I never thought of that, I thought he was just grizzly because I beat him in a Yard of Ale contest.

Or he was asked to clean the hammy end bogs for Mr Woolly.
Title: Re: AA's last stand
Post by: Wandsworthboy on October 24, 2026, 10:12:16 PM
I feel like our defence has been the focus of the training sessions of late. The transition from defence to midfield is there but from midfield to the final third we are lacking. But thats where TC may be useful to be a starter to mix it up a bit, put his foot on the ball and pick the pass. It can and will be resolved with a few more training sessions AA style. We have come on leaps and bounds since that fateful day in Suffolk and I have to applaud AA for realising his mistakes. I was one of those that was calling for him to go after that game but am happy to give him more time after the progress I have seen. COYW