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Title: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 25, 2026, 11:47:13 AM
I'm only posting this as nobody else appears to have mentioned it either on here or on X,
If you look back at the goal yesterday it came from a corner, that corner came about in part because of the physical presence of Rodrigo Muniz, it was only a little thing but he jumped with the keeper to deny him the chance of taking an easy catch, and in doing so the keeper tipped the ball behind for a corner,
I honestly don't think I've seen Garcia close enough to the keeper to challenge him all season, he literally carries no physical threat whatsoever.
He gets a lot of abuse on here so I just wanted to hi-light something that tends to go unnoticed.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Kimbleman on October 25, 2026, 11:59:48 AM
I just can't believe the closest thing we have as a number nine is kept on the bench by Garcia.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: FFC In Oz on October 25, 2026, 12:33:05 PM
Both of our strikers (not including JKA) seem to be really good at many of the intangible kind of qualities.  Garcia is solid with his pressing and makes a lot of clever runs, Muniz as you point out is a really tricky physical presence to come up against and his awkwardness can make it difficult for defenders to battle with him.

Unfortunately neither seem to actually possess the main quality strikers need - putting the ball in the back of the net
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: LittleErn on October 25, 2026, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 11:47:13 AMI'm only posting this as nobody else appears to have mentioned it either on here or on X,
If you look back at the goal yesterday it came from a corner, that corner came about in part because of the physical presence of Rodrigo Muniz, it was only a little thing but he jumped with the keeper to deny him the chance of taking an easy catch, and in doing so the keeper tipped the ball behind for a corner,
I honestly don't think I've seen Garcia close enough to the keeper to challenge him all season, he literally carries no physical threat whatsoever.
He gets a lot of abuse on here so I just wanted to hi-light something that tends to go unnoticed.
Quote from: FFC In Oz on October 25, 2026, 12:33:05 PMBoth of our strikers (not including JKA) seem to be really good at many of the intangible kind of qualities.  Garcia is solid with his pressing and makes a lot of clever runs, Muniz as you point out is a really tricky physical presence to come up against and his awkwardness can make it difficult for defenders to battle with him.

Unfortunately neither seem to actually possess the main quality strikers need - putting the ball in the back of the net

Agree with both the above. I have been critical of Muniz for a long time, but in his cameo yesterday he looked sharper than I have seen him before. The speed with which he closed the keeper down was a revelation to me. I will watch him against CP in midweek with renewed interest.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: St Eve on October 25, 2026, 01:18:25 PM
Maybe there will be an opportunity to play them both at some time
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: FFC In Oz on October 25, 2026, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: St Eve on October 25, 2026, 01:18:25 PMMaybe there will be an opportunity to play them both at some time

For two minutes before taking GG off  :slap:
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Hugh Janus on October 25, 2026, 02:21:29 PM
Garcia has been unconvincing so far but it's very early days. Muniz has had 5 seasons. He hasn't scored a Premier League goal since early August 2025. He won the corner yesterday by putting a very poor keeper under pressure but I still think he is no where near Premier League level. I wish that wasn't the case.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: cookieg on October 25, 2026, 02:56:43 PM
On the flip side when we needed to keep the ball in the last few minutes with the ball at his feet rather than head for the corner he hit the ball straight to their keeper who started another attack which fortunately didn't cost us but easily could have.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Fulham 442 on October 25, 2026, 03:05:11 PM
I've said on another forum that Muniz should start next match.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Whitestone on October 25, 2026, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on October 25, 2026, 03:05:11 PMI've said on another forum that Muniz should start next match.

I'm sure you'll get your wish as it's against Palace in the cup.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on October 25, 2026, 03:05:11 PMI've said on another forum that Muniz should start next match.

Why? We havent lost in 4, why change Muniz in?
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Hatch007 on October 25, 2026, 04:17:56 PM
Erm ... because he hasn't scored since Wimbledon and subsequently missed some very simple chances.

Muniz literally can't do any worse and has scored in both games that he's started this season!

Apart from the above, no reason whatsoever 🙄
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: bahay18 on October 25, 2026, 05:13:20 PM
Muniz has to start the next game . Garcia just played all 3 promoted clubs and failed to score , he wont get 3 easier games . To say muniz hasbt sxored since Aug 2025 is a little harsh , the guy just hasnt been fit . In the 2 runs he was given when fully fit he scored plenty and his finishing was excellent . Deserves his chance now .
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 25, 2026, 05:23:49 PM
Garcia this season in the Premier League this season,
673 minutes played
1 Goal
No assists
And he's played Sunderland, Manchester United, Ipswich, Hull and Coventry in that time
I think it's fair to say we need to sign a striker in January despite the money spent on Garcia.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: alfie on October 25, 2026, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 25, 2026, 02:21:29 PMGarcia has been unconvincing so far but it's very early days. Muniz has had 5 seasons. He hasn't scored a Premier League goal since early August 2025. He won the corner yesterday by putting a very poor keeper under pressure but I still think he is no where near Premier League level. I wish that wasn't the case.
Can't say he has had great service from crosses.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PM
Whatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 25, 2026, 05:51:10 PM
Quote from: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PMWhatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!
He definitely deserves a chance though,but after saying that I don't think he'll get a chance as I can't see Arbeloa dropping Garcia.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Southdowns White on October 25, 2026, 06:09:48 PM
People are going to shoot me down for this but, if after 5 years Muniz still can't cut the mustard he should be gone from the club. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke and his heart is in the right place, but please get a striker who can do what strikers do.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PM
Muniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PM
I do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Kingjay81 on October 25, 2026, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

What's this no defeats in 4 business? Does the Ipswich game not count or am I missing something?
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: hopper on October 25, 2026, 07:59:54 PM
He's a player that really inspires debate that's for sure.

I like him, and think he was constantly improving and the injuries really set him back. Contrary to what some say - he does score goals, at a steady rate. Thats said neither Marco nor Arbeloa seem to want him to be their main guy, and I do sometimes worry about his all round play, occasionally the ball bounces off him.

I also think as a fanbase we had Mitrovic who was just incredible and it's going to be very very hard to find someone that adequately replaces him and so it's proving.

Strikers are capricious beasts, they often do blow hot and cold with not much in between. There's also been a broader demise of the no 9. How many clubs out there are really happy with their no 9, and how many are there available that are sure fire bets?

Muniz is far from perfect, but I don't think he's beneath us and I'd like to see him rotating in more as Garcia is currently having issues in front of goals.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Whitestone on October 25, 2026, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟

Garcia has only been here three months. Let's get behind him.
Muniz has had five years. How much more time should he be given ? Look, I'm not knocking Muniz but I can't see him ever being more than a back up striker.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: MickTheBeard on October 25, 2026, 08:59:32 PM
With our more fuller depth of squad with a bit more quality the only area we did not add is all round goal scoring ability with nothing in the 21 s ready to step up yet.I thought with our new coach we would be more free flowing, but it seems the opposite to keep a clean sheet we are short of goals which could be a big problem later on in season.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 25, 2026, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 25, 2026, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟

Garcia has only been here three months. Let's get behind him.
Muniz has had five years. How much more time should he be given ? Look, I'm not knocking Muniz but I can't see him ever being more than a back up striker.
Garcia has started 8 games in a row, maybe one of the statistician's on here could tell us the last time Rodrigo was able to start 8 consecutive league games in a row.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: akf on October 25, 2026, 09:09:31 PM
Quote from: cookieg on October 25, 2026, 02:56:43 PMOn the flip side when we needed to keep the ball in the last few minutes with the ball at his feet rather than head for the corner he hit the ball straight to their keeper who started another attack which fortunately didn't cost us but easily could have.

To be fair, the keeper was way off his line.  Had he hit the ball cleanly and it traveled as he no doubt intended, the resulting goal would have been goal-of-the-month/year standard. 

That said, discretion over valor, he should have held the ball.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Trusty Steed on October 25, 2026, 09:13:22 PM
Do what Marco did with Jiminez & Muniz, & rotate Muniz & Garcia.
When one of them drops off, the other one gets thrown in and is hungry at the chance to keep his place and prove his worth.

Get more goals that way. I was hoping Garcia would get us close to 20 goals this season, but not looking likely yet. Still too early to tell, but I'd drop him, might give him a kick up the old aris
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Somerset Fulham on October 25, 2026, 09:13:43 PM
Garcia is clearly a better footballer than Muniz, but that said; I do think that Muniz did very well when he came on yesterday and I still think that he can be an important part of the squad.

It would be handy if we could get an older head in to help both forwards, pretty much as Jiminez, or Willian did.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

You make a very reasonable point and I often say don't change something that is going well. BUT IMO we are scoring far to few goals and garcia isn't really threatening, I think there is a case for a change and also, nobody can be untouchable and it appears he is at the moment. I think it doesn't harm to make him work a bit harder for his place and in his case it isn't the effort on the pitch because that is clear for all to see, but to go away and think hard about his positioning... he was absent from the danger area so often yesterday, but he was still working hard.

The manger clearly loves him so I assume there is no chance of a switch for a while but one goal a game and none from him is not encouraging.  I repeat I think he is a good player, but needs to be used differently or he has to reconsider how he plays.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 09:15:27 PM
Quote from: Kingjay81 on October 25, 2026, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

What's this no defeats in 4 business? Does the Ipswich game not count or am I missing something?

I mean 1 defeat in 5
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 25, 2026, 10:25:08 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2026, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 25, 2026, 02:21:29 PMGarcia has been unconvincing so far but it's very early days. Muniz has had 5 seasons. He hasn't scored a Premier League goal since early August 2025. He won the corner yesterday by putting a very poor keeper under pressure but I still think he is no where near Premier League level. I wish that wasn't the case.
Can't say he has had great service from crosses.

He needs to stay in the box rather than drift wide or into midfield.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 25, 2026, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on October 25, 2026, 08:59:32 PMWith our more fuller depth of squad with a bit more quality the only area we did not add is all round goal scoring ability with nothing in the 21 s ready to step up yet.I thought with our new coach we would be more free flowing, but it seems the opposite to keep a clean sheet we are short of goals which could be a big problem later on in season.
As you day Mick, no striker ready to step up from below.
Can't see why we wasted more money £5m (on top of his loan fee) for Assare from B Munich.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on October 26, 2026, 05:56:17 AM
Garcia is not playing like a typical No9 i.e. challenging the CB's. leading the line,shielding the ball etc.

He needs to focus on playing further up the pitch, make sharp runs off the shoulder of the last defender and show some clinical finishing.

Both his goes demonstrate what we need of him but he's been ineffective the rest of the time.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: john dempsey on October 26, 2026, 08:22:16 AM
A decent service from the midfielders and decent crosses,
would be nice and helpful. for either of them.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 26, 2026, 08:29:00 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on October 26, 2026, 08:22:16 AMA decent service from the midfielders and decent crosses,
would be nice and helpful. for either of them.
The best cross in the world at the moment would be totally wasted on Garcia as he wouldn't be on or around the penalty spot to receive it,
Until
Until he starts playing like a traditional number 9, if he's capable of that, things are very unlikely to improve,
He just doesn't give the centre backs a tough time does he ?
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Hugh Janus on October 26, 2026, 09:17:20 AM
I'd start Muniz on Wednesday night but I'm not expecting much from him.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: LittleErn on October 26, 2026, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PMWhatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!

I thought it was 42?
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: john dempsey on October 26, 2026, 09:39:58 AM
No point being on or around the penalty spot when our crosses
go anywhere but the penalty spot.
Must be a no fly zone in the penalty box for Fulham.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Arthur on October 26, 2026, 12:16:14 PM
Garcia must be frustrated at the opportunities his team mates spurn to present him with a decent goalscoring chance.

This, for instance, on Saturday: Running on to this ball, Robinson only has to pass it first-time to Garcia to set him up with a gilt-edged finish.

(https://i.ibb.co/LDzmVprv/01.jpg)

Instead, Robinson carries the ball to here and a defender sticks out a leg and blocks the cross.

(https://i.ibb.co/5WZ9XkqX/02.jpg)

I'm hoping the goals start to flow for Garcia. Muniz is a decent back-up striker, in my opinion, but not good enough to be our first choice. If, therefore, Garcia also turns out not to be good enough, we're back to square one, so to speak, in terms of our search for a number 9. For this reason I believe we should persist with Garcia in P.L. games while the team try to adapt to Arbeloa's tactics and style of play.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: irishfulham on October 26, 2026, 01:05:57 PM
Also noticed this crossing oppurtunity with robinson couldnt believe it he didnt hit that first time so frustrating
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: epsomraver on October 26, 2026, 01:36:52 PM
Quote from: Southdowns White on October 25, 2026, 06:09:48 PMPeople are going to shoot me down for this but, if after 5 years Muniz still can't cut the mustard he should be gone from the club. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke and his heart is in the right place, but please get a striker who can do what strikers do.
what like 6 goals in 7? scored a cracker leaving Van Dyke like a statue, That Muniz,out long term with an injury blows your stats,  given a run in the team he will come good but he isnt a favourite of the manager like Garcia and that's what the closed dressing room talk was about
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: JoeS on October 26, 2026, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 25, 2026, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟

Garcia has only been here three months. Let's get behind him.
Muniz has had five years. How much more time should he be given ? Look, I'm not knocking Muniz but I can't see him ever being more than a back up striker.
Garcia has started 8 games in a row, maybe one of the statistician's on here could tell us the last time Rodrigo was able to start 8 consecutive league games in a row.

Interesting point. I looked back to the end of last season and Muniz started 6 of the final 8 league games (Raul started the win over Villa and the defeat at Arsenal). That was mid-April onwards after the final international break of the season, and worth pointing out he had only returned from his long-term injury in mid-February. I personally find his all-round game quite clunky and frustrating to watch, and in the 6-game spell I mentioned above at the end of last season, I recall him being toothless in comparison with Raul. That being said, his cameo at Coventry was very promising.

I think Wednesday is a big game for Muniz and he can win back a starting spot in the league with a positive performance.

Whoever starts at Villa and beyond, it would be very good news for us as a club if we have multiple valid options to lead the line, especially when we are finding goals so hard to come by!
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: cwindsor on October 26, 2026, 03:20:01 PM
The difference is that the club has invested a lot of money in Garcia and a pittance in Muniz. It's only natural that they're going to give him time to settle into the Premier League.

Also, as many have pointed out, it's hard to be a centre forward if you're not fed the ball. Mitrovic would have struggled to score given the service that Garcia has had.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Jim© on October 26, 2026, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 26, 2026, 08:29:00 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on October 26, 2026, 08:22:16 AMA decent service from the midfielders and decent crosses,
would be nice and helpful. for either of them.
The best cross in the world at the moment would be totally wasted on Garcia as he wouldn't be on or around the penalty spot to receive it,
Until
Until he starts playing like a traditional number 9, if he's capable of that, things are very unlikely to improve,
He just doesn't give the centre backs a tough time does he ?

I'd argue that he's not really getting the service. Look at the image above, how annoyed must he have been for Robinson to inexplicably take another touch.
V Hull, he nodded a ball down perfectly from a cross onto Iwobi's foot to slot home, and reached for a header that went onto the bar. We've got to get the fella a few chances before we write him off.

Also as an ageing CB, I would have much preferred a CF to play against who was giving me a tough time by backing into me and being physical rather than one who was off making decent runs all the time. Way easier to defend.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: RaySmith on October 26, 2026, 04:09:11 PM
CG's received quite a few balls to head and feet - he is very mobile and hard working and good at finding space for through balls, but then  so often frustratingly fails to control the ball and gives it away.
 
He also does get on the end of crosses, but fails to make the most of them, as in the great chance v Hull.
But I believe he has  potential, and  could come good, and  begin to score for us. He seems to lack confidence, and is not used to the pace of the Prem.

I do feel for Muniz though, who can hold the ball up, and provides physical strength that we lack up front.

I suppose the manager wants to keep faith  with CG after the money paid for him on his recommendation.
Whatever, we urgently need a striker who can score goals.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Hugh Janus on October 26, 2026, 04:12:49 PM
I am convinced Robinson's crossing would be a lot better if he slowed down a touch when carrying the ball.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: flyingfish on October 26, 2026, 09:20:36 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2026, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 25, 2026, 02:21:29 PMGarcia has been unconvincing so far but it's very early days. Muniz has had 5 seasons. He hasn't scored a Premier League goal since early August 2025. He won the corner yesterday by putting a very poor keeper under pressure but I still think he is no where near Premier League level. I wish that wasn't the case.
Can't say he has had great service from crosses.


I disagree with this. GG has had loads of chances which add up to a whacking great XG but has underperformed on all. The fact that he has had high quality chances and failed to convert them cannot logically be the fault of his team mates.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Grassy Noel on October 27, 2026, 08:08:22 AM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 26, 2026, 04:12:49 PMI am convinced Robinson's crossing would be a lot better if he slowed down a touch when carrying the ball.
That would then require better ball control with his working foot.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Kimbleman on October 27, 2026, 08:20:39 AM
Quote from: irishfulham on October 26, 2026, 01:05:57 PMAlso noticed this crossing oppurtunity with robinson couldnt believe it he didnt hit that first time so frustrating

I like Robinson and he's been a good servant to the club, but I think he just doesn't have that instinctive ability and 'football' brain' (speed of thought possibly) to spot the killer pass. He needs to look up more, but at nearly thirty years it might be too old to change his ways.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: bahay18 on October 27, 2026, 08:33:05 AM
Garcia has missed a number of great openings . When we talk about it would be nice to have some crosses , he couldnt have had a better one vs Hull and he some how hit the bar . The fella gives 100% , runs around loads but not normally in the place you want your centre forward . First touch is suspect for a centre forward as well

I really dont think muniz can be any worse and he has proved can finish in the starting line up when fully fit , which has probably been over a year . Brings players into the game well and his physical threat and just being in the box caused the keeper to concede the corner that led to the goal .

If you back at his goals there is some high quality finishing .

Hopefully garcia wil come good but we are struggling for goals and we dont have the luxury to allow him to keep missing . Our xG attacking is high and we are underperforming big time in front of goal
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 27, 2026, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: Arthur on October 26, 2026, 12:16:14 PMGarcia must be frustrated at the opportunities his team mates spurn to present him with a decent goalscoring chance.

This, for instance, on Saturday: Running on to this ball, Robinson only has to pass it first-time to Garcia to set him up with a gilt-edged finish.

(https://i.ibb.co/LDzmVprv/01.jpg)

Instead, Robinson carries the ball to here and a defender sticks out a leg and blocks the cross.

(https://i.ibb.co/5WZ9XkqX/02.jpg)

I'm hoping the goals start to flow for Garcia. Muniz is a decent back-up striker, in my opinion, but not good enough to be our first choice. If, therefore, Garcia also turns out not to be good enough, we're back to square one, so to speak, in terms of our search for a number 9. For this reason I believe we should persist with Garcia in P.L. games while the team try to adapt to Arbeloa's tactics and style of play.


That move really frustrated me as well, Robinson had the ball under control so really should've played it first time.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 27, 2026, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 26, 2026, 04:12:49 PMI am convinced Robinson's crossing would be a lot better if he slowed down a touch when carrying the ball.

People have been saying this for years, he's not going to change now.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 27, 2026, 12:08:49 PM
Quote from: bahay18 on October 27, 2026, 08:33:05 AMGarcia has missed a number of great openings . When we talk about it would be nice to have some crosses , he couldnt have had a better one vs Hull and he some how hit the bar . The fella gives 100% , runs around loads but not normally in the place you want your centre forward . First touch is suspect for a centre forward as well

I really dont think muniz can be any worse and he has proved can finish in the starting line up when fully fit , which has probably been over a year . Brings players into the game well and his physical threat and just being in the box caused the keeper to concede the corner that led to the goal .

If you back at his goals there is some high quality finishing .

Hopefully garcia wil come good but we are struggling for goals and we dont have the luxury to allow him to keep missing . Our xG attacking is high and we are underperforming big time in front of goal

To be fair Muniz and Jiménez have been guilty of missing even better chances.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Rodge on October 27, 2026, 03:06:36 PM

Let's face it we want both strikers scoring freely and for me the best case scenario would be Garcia coming good and Muniz pushing him all the way for a starting berth.

I was at the Coventry game and Garcia had a poor game and is clearly lacking in confidence. I know the fans who have made the trip and paid good money are entitled to moan when it's not going well but chanting for Muniz every time Garcia made a mistake is hardly going to boost the young man's confidence.

I might be old-fashioned but I think we should get behind and encourage all the players on the pitch in a Fulham shirt and save chanting the names of our subs until they come on.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: C Block on October 27, 2026, 04:58:19 PM
Here's one for you all, a tea time teaser , in all the games we've played so far, how many times has Garcia had a shot that has forced a save from the opposition keeper?
I don't know the answer but im willing to bet it's a low number.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: Baszab on October 27, 2026, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 26, 2026, 09:18:40 AM
Quote from: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PMWhatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!

I thought it was 42?

This also the angle of refraction that produces a rainbow

And by the way, I  was at Coventry and Muniz made a big difference just running around and putting pressure on their defence = Garcia not up to it yet
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: cwindsor on October 27, 2026, 06:38:42 PM
Quote from: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PMWhatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!

Muniz wasn't even the answer when Jimenez was around. And he was no prize. He was only saved by his penalty kicking prowess, which was pretty flawless.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: bahay18 on October 27, 2026, 07:30:47 PM
When he is fit his games to goals ratio has been pretty good . But if any of our strikers get close to 10 if they played all 38 games i would think that a decent return

 
Season   Premier League Appearances   Premier League Starts   Goals
2023/24   26   18   9
2024/25   31   8   8
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: LittleErn on October 28, 2026, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: LittleErn on October 25, 2026, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 11:47:13 AMI'm only posting this as nobody else appears to have mentioned it either on here or on X,
If you look back at the goal yesterday it came from a corner, that corner came about in part because of the physical presence of Rodrigo Muniz, it was only a little thing but he jumped with the keeper to deny him the chance of taking an easy catch, and in doing so the keeper tipped the ball behind for a corner,
I honestly don't think I've seen Garcia close enough to the keeper to challenge him all season, he literally carries no physical threat whatsoever.
He gets a lot of abuse on here so I just wanted to hi-light something that tends to go unnoticed.
Quote from: FFC In Oz on October 25, 2026, 12:33:05 PMBoth of our strikers (not including JKA) seem to be really good at many of the intangible kind of qualities.  Garcia is solid with his pressing and makes a lot of clever runs, Muniz as you point out is a really tricky physical presence to come up against and his awkwardness can make it difficult for defenders to battle with him.

Unfortunately neither seem to actually possess the main quality strikers need - putting the ball in the back of the net

Agree with both the above. I have been critical of Muniz for a long time, but in his cameo yesterday he looked sharper than I have seen him before. The speed with which he closed the keeper down was a revelation to me. I will watch him against CP in midweek with renewed interest.

Looks like I've been right all along. Mind you, Garcia isn't doing much better at his main job - scoring goals.
Title: Re: In praise of Rodrigo Muniz
Post by: bahay18 on October 28, 2026, 11:09:22 PM
Muniz didnt do his case any good tonight ,very disjointed . Worry is , garcia missed a sitter again and leaves a huge problem at centre forward