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Title: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: Jimbobob on June 08, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
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I was surprised and now happy with Jol but where is the excitement and discussion of his style of play when we thought he may have come here last season???
Do we have a team that can play that wide open???
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Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: SWwhite on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: ImperialWhite on June 08, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
At Spurs (probably our best guide) his team scored a lot, conceded a lot. If he make one happen without the other, should be a fun season...


Tottenham leaked 143 goals, with his team's worst defensive performance coming in his first match, a 5-4 home defeat by Arsenal.

Spurs scored 166 times, even outscoring the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, in 2007.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2324156/Spurs-under-Martin-Jol.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2324156/Spurs-under-Martin-Jol.html)
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: SWwhite on June 08, 2011, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: ImperialWhite on June 08, 2011, 06:00:48 PM
At Spurs (probably our best guide) his team scored a lot, conceded a lot. If he make one happen without the other, should be a fun season...


Tottenham leaked 143 goals, with his team's worst defensive performance coming in his first match, a 5-4 home defeat by Arsenal.

Spurs scored 166 times, even outscoring the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, in 2007.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2324156/Spurs-under-Martin-Jol.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2324156/Spurs-under-Martin-Jol.html)
Overall, he got a goal difference of +23.  That's still really good.  I really wouldn't be bothered if we scored 30 more and conceded 30 more too.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: Jimbobob on June 08, 2011, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.

Now THAT is why you are a Maestro!!!
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: RidgeRider on June 08, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.

Seems to me that could by why he is a such a good appointment. Hodgson build the spine of the team and created discipline on defense, once that was done he had us attacking more. Hughes was nearly completely attack minded, too much so in the beginning, moving to a higher line but we made the adjustments and became even better, though vulnerable to teams with better skill players who had pace.

Jol should be able to evolve us very easily to what he wants. I just hope he continues to keep the spine strong and disciplined.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: LordNelson on June 08, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.

+1 Absolutley

We have a pretty solid defense in place already.  This could be fun!! 098.gif
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: HatterDon on June 08, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Jol's last club had the highest number of goals and the best goals-against record in the league. Very Chelsea-esque. It's a little harsh to judge him on his Spuds squads where they had to outscore the opponents with Paul "I've retired from England" Robinson sleeping in goal.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: Tom on June 08, 2011, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.
Great point AFC!  078.gif
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: Tom on June 08, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: LordNelson on June 08, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.

+1 Absolutley

We have a pretty solid defense in place already.  This could be fun!! 098.gif
I agree with you LN, our defense is solid! I am thinking top 6 depending on who we add and if we stay healthy.
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: ImperialWhite on June 08, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: Tom on June 08, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: LordNelson on June 08, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 08, 2011, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: sidwell4england on June 08, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
Sure, Jol's an attack-minded manager, but it's gonna take a while for the team to adjust.   They were starting to do it towards the end of last year, and it was working, so i am hoping for a few more 3-0s, 4-0s, and 2-2s instead of those bore draws.

This is the interesting thing - the players have been on the track for more 'attacking' football for the last 12 months and now Jol can build on that with an entire pre-season and ability to supplement the squad with attacking signings.

+1 Absolutley

We have a pretty solid defense in place already.  This could be fun!! 098.gif
I agree with you LN, our defense is solid! I am thinking top 6 depending on who we add and if we stay healthy.

You aim too low, good reverend! 2010-2011 season Fulham had the 4th tightest defence!
Title: Re: What has happened to the "total" football talk of last year with Jol???
Post by: finnster01 on June 08, 2011, 11:18:53 PM
Jol talking total football carries just about as much weight as Gordon Brown claiming we had no recession despite his only working eye