Latest tweets are suggesting that 31 year old Zdeněk Grygera will have a medical at Fulham today. He plays right back and can play across the defence. If true sounds like a solid prospect.
Quote from: Hammer Smith on August 27, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
Latest tweets are suggesting that 31 year old Zdeněk Grygera will have a medical at Fulham today. He plays right back and can play across the defence. If true sounds like a solid prospect.
Don't know anything about him but he fits in with getting the avergae age of the team down. fp.gif
Really encouraging video
Zdenek Grygera amazing skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3Coq28dc4#)
This doesn't smack of short term panic at all.
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on August 27, 2011, 10:16:26 AM
Really encouraging video
Zdenek Grygera amazing skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3Coq28dc4#)
he's going to fit in really well. :002:
We will have another "GERA" then
Previous clubs include Sparta, Ajax and currently Juventus - he isn't young, but will fit in, I hope.
good player but old, hmm.
What a load of old Tosh. Someone tweets it, so it must be true. :hook: :hook: :hook:
Quote from: Brede Butter Pudding on August 27, 2011, 10:16:26 AM
Really encouraging video
Zdenek Grygera amazing skills (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad3Coq28dc4#)
I think it says it all when I thought you had got his position wrong and I thought he was a striker.... I don't want to see a right back who gives away goals soo blatantly like that... anyone got any good evidence of him?
Anybody how much he is costing or could he be on a loan!
always thought he was more of a centre back
Hell of a scrabble score
I don't see a problem with bringing in an older right back as I cannot think of a promising youngster available at the moment.
That young English right back for Man Utd looks quite good. What's his face, Smalling?
oh gosh....the last years were the pure downhill for him. He's not even an international anymore. Come on Fulham, we can do better than this.
Is giving Marsh-Brown game time too big a step for him?
Quote from: Mr_Moon on August 27, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
Is giving Marsh-Brown game time too big a step for him?
I think Marsh-Brown is completely down the pecking order. Not even playing for our Development Squad. :doh:
What about Hutton and Luke Young??? Constantly linked and I would much rather see one of them here!
Quote from: Sector9 on August 27, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
What about Hutton and Luke Young??? Constantly linked and I would much rather see one of them here!
Young to move to QPR and Hutton to Villa
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_7128133,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_7128133,00.html)
Young is a done deal
I have seen this guy play. He is worse than our current right back options. Kelly is streets ahead, Baird will always do a decenty job or at least try and Hughes will be solid wherever. Pointless signing, we do need a right back but not one who is no better than what we already have.
He also has issues with a recurring knee injury. Sigh...
Oh, but he's a Mino Raiola player. fp.gif 090.gif
iTS A TWITTER FROM A TWATTER OF AN AGENT
Ignore it and dont get wound up
Haven't seen him for years but he was really good some time ago. Wouldn't rush to condemn him, but then again, who knows? Iirc was at Ajax quite young, played for Juve and in a very technical Czech Rep team so I'd assume he'd easily do a job for us. 31 isn't that old for a defender, but not the direction we want to go is it?
Football defender Zdenek Grygera leave Juventus after four years and is going to Fulham. London club in the summer one Czech reinforcement gain: in July he changed his midfielder Marcel Gecov from Liberec. About Grygeru reportedly also interested in Bundesliga Hamburg, but thirty-quarterback gave priority to offer from the Premier League. 27th 8th 2011 16:59 - 27 8th 2011 Updated 18:34 PRAGUE Grygerův forthcoming transfer of the player's agent confirmed ČTK George Muller. He stated that the closing of the transaction still remains footballer pass complete physical and administrative matters. Grygera on Saturday, the day spent on investigations, after Sunday would be with Fulham contract. "Perhaps it should turn out well. Fulham take it as a challenge, I know other top competition. The Premier League is now probably the most watched competitions and attracts me, that I part of it. This engagement would have enriched me as a player and man. I know a different mentality, learn another language. This applies also for the whole family, "said ČTK Grygera, which Juventus played against Ajax in Amsterdam. For Juventus, who from childhood fan of, but not go with a light heart. "Not leaving like that. Juventus are Juventus, plus I'm also very fond of Italy as a whole. But the situation in recent weeks and days has developed so that I hardly got closer to the cadre of eighteen or twenty players. I decided to leave and Fulham great opportunity, "said Grygera. Looking forward to the Czech partner - Gecova midfielder. "We met on Saturday and Fulham, we discussed a lot. I am happy that here I have a fellow countryman. Perhaps this is true even for him. We have the beginnings perhaps because both easier," said Grygera. Cech sixth in the Premier League Former representative, who has scored in 65 games for the national team to try foreign involvement in a third country. In 2003 went to Ajax from Sparta, where, after four years moved to Turin. In the Czech league for Drnovice also boarded. For Juventus, who after unsuccessful season, decided to significantly reshape roster, played in four seasons Grygera 87 leagues
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Isn't that just his page, so not him?
Quote from: Mr_Moon on August 27, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Isn't that just his page, so not him?
It's him, lots of private pictures and all that...
At that sort of price, can't really complain. He used to be a fantastic footballer, even if he has gone downhill in recent years. Still, hardly the marquee signing we've all been hoping for.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on August 27, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Isn't that just his page, so not him?
It's him, lots of private pictures and all that...
Link...
Quote from: Mr_Moon on August 27, 2011, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:39:48 PM
Quote from: Mr_Moon on August 27, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Isn't that just his page, so not him?
It's him, lots of private pictures and all that...
Link...
http://www.facebook.com/home.php# (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#)!/profile.php?id=1787822760
Screams to me as though we've missed out on our targets by a very long way and are now scraping the bottom of the barrel. This bloke is now 31... going slightly against Jol's best wishes to 'lower the average age of the squad'.
I'm getting worried. The only positive is if this is 300 - 500k then it might work out to be an absolute bargain. But still, this signing really doesn't fill me with confidence.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:43:09 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php# (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#)!/profile.php?id=1787822760
oh right, i was just looking at his fan page thing which also had a grygera link up.
Let's hope a compatriot helps Gecov to establish at Fulham. 078.gif
We could have gotten Zlatan Muslimovic for free he is a striker and we need strikers this grygera is not even playing for his country anymore and czech republic doesn't have that great players in their squads.
I reckon this is Halliche's replacement. He might be leaving us soon ! just a thought. no link.sorry 079.gif
Quote from: FFC4Life on August 27, 2011, 09:40:53 PM
At that sort of price, can't really complain. He used to be a fantastic footballer, even if he has gone downhill in recent years. Still, hardly the marquee signing we've all been hoping for.
Why do we need a big tent?
From what I've read the fee of €500k is a severance package agreed between Grygera and Juve, so he'd be joining us on a free transfer.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on August 27, 2011, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: FFC4Life on August 27, 2011, 09:40:53 PM
At that sort of price, can't really complain. He used to be a fantastic footballer, even if he has gone downhill in recent years. Still, hardly the marquee signing we've all been hoping for.
Why do we need a big tent?
For when it rains, obviously :yay:
Quote from: FFC4Life on August 27, 2011, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on August 27, 2011, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: FFC4Life on August 27, 2011, 09:40:53 PM
At that sort of price, can't really complain. He used to be a fantastic footballer, even if he has gone downhill in recent years. Still, hardly the marquee signing we've all been hoping for.
Why do we need a big tent?
good answer ....... and quick.
For when it rains, obviously :yay:
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Is his full name an anagram for Jari Litmanen by any chance?
Quote from: HatterDon on August 27, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on August 27, 2011, 09:37:35 PM
Gecov confirmed on Facebook that Grygera is in London doing his medical examination. Deal likely to go through tomorrow. About 300,000-500,000 pounds apparently.
Is his full name an anagram for Jari Litmanen by any chance?
Now thats scepticism at a whol new level!!
An interesting thread on Tiff, where an Ajax fan has predicted this signing after the Villa match (2 weeks ago), because Jol is mates with the agent and gets a cut of the transfer fee!!
I am starting to worry slightly fp.gif.
Quote from: Scrumpy on August 28, 2011, 12:59:47 AM
An interesting thread on Tiff, where an Ajax fan has predicted this signing after the Villa match (2 weeks ago), because Jol is mates with the agent and gets a cut of the transfer fee!!
I am starting to worry slightly fp.gif.
Mino Raiola indeed is Jol's mate. He's a major shareholder in czech agency Nehoda Sport and he's the boss of dutch Maguire Tax & Legal.
Now guess where our new players are under contract? Pajtim Kasami is under contract at Maguire Tax & Legal, Marcel Gecov and Zdenek Grygera at Nehoda Sport.
Raiola is one of the rather shady characters in the game, just like our dear old friend Kia Joorabchian.
Well all this is very interesting. Very odd and just goes to share how murky the game can be. Problem for me is that a good result and a few better players in and I shall defend Jol and the club to the death. A nice article in the Mirror about Jol and the Chairman and I am ready to say how great everything is.
But there is no doubt something is odd in the state of Fulham. Just how odd depends on how well the club does. Oh do be a fickle fan.
He's actually played against us before; on that memorable night at the cottage, coming in when Cannavaro got sent off.
Eh, whatever. Not PUMPED but not upset like the lot of you.
I just read somewhere that this Mino fella is Jols agent. Easy access to players he reps then?
Quote from: clintclintdeuce on August 28, 2011, 05:41:34 AM
I just read somewhere that this Mino fella is Jols agent. Easy access to players he reps then?
Hmmmm,'very interesting reading the guy in the official where this started from and Greenpole on Tiff who got the agency details below. Looks like 3 out of the 1st 5 (if the RB of this thread signs) are all on his books.......
Apart from the stellar players at the top, not any players I would want and oasadi who we've been linked with his just changed agents to be linked with this fella...even more interesting were quotes from the player saying he wants to stay in Holland and he wasn't sure where the quotes were coming from saying he wanted to move abroad......I'm not easy about this, I wanted Jol but then started to get nagging doubts very early on. Hopefully all dispelled once we start playing well but the guy on the official also said he split up working CB partnerships and their shape went out of the window......
List of this guys 2 agencies:-
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/maguire-tax--legal/details/berater_282.html (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/maguire-tax--legal/details/berater_282.html)
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/nehoda-sport/details/berater_396.html (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/nehoda-sport/details/berater_396.html)
Necid and Sivok are both good players. They have Sivok as a CB - I watched a couple of Sparta games about five years ago and he was a defensive midfielder, really on the up (I paid attention as I have a Sparta shirt with 'sivok 6' on the back!).
Necid I haven't seen but was half following the Czech game 'remotely' for a while and he was really well thought of and still youngish.
Anyway...
No football fan can be a fan of football agents -- for how much they drain from the game or for the (to allege no worse) lack of clarity about whose interests they truly represent. That said, it with agents that club MDs are used to dealing when hiring players and managers, so generically they will hold no surprises to club negotiators -- at any rate by the time they have been around the block a couple of times. The one person at Fulham who is bound to be aware of everything in this thread, and similar ones in other forums, is Alistair Macintosh.
A better guess than that clubs are innocent dupes in such matters, is that associations, head-starts, with particular agents and their clients are intangible assets which managers are expected to bring to the party -- part of the modern job spec. Not saying that's attractive or desirable from the fan's perspective, just unlikely to be the revelation that some would have it.
We may be underwhelmed but he is happy to have a go here.
Fulham are closing in on the signing of Czech Republic defender Zdenek Grygera from Juventus.
Juventus are willing to offload Grygera as he does not figure in Antonio Conte's long-term plans in Turin.
Fulham have moved quickly to land the versatile Grygera with the 31-year-old able to play anywhere across the back.
Grygera is expected to undergo a medical in London this weekend and the former Ajax man is excited about making the move to Craven Cottage
"Hopefully it will come out well. I take Fulham as a big call and will experience another top league," Grygera told CTK.
"The Premier League is probably the most followed competition at the moment and I am tempted by the prospect of being a part of it.
"This spell can teach me a lot as a footballer as well as a human being.
"I will come to know a different mentality and learn another language. The same goes for all my family.
"It is not easy for me to be leaving Juventus. Juventus is Juventus and, moreover, I have come to love Italy. But the situation there has developed in recent weeks that I would hardly make it into the nomination of 18 or 20 players.
"I have decided to leave and Fulham are an excellent option."
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Quote from: richie17 on August 28, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
Necid and Sivok are both good players. They have Sivok as a CB - I watched a couple of Sparta games about five years ago and he was a defensive midfielder, really on the up (I paid attention as I have a Sparta shirt with 'sivok 6' on the back!).
Necid I haven't seen but was half following the Czech game 'remotely' for a while and he was really well thought of and still youngish.
Anyway...
That's fair Richie and you can make an informed decision as you've seen them play.
My frustration is that we've got Baird who can play anywhere across the back 4 and in midfield and he's hardly played and were signing an older version of the same sort of player. We still haven't addressed the 3 major areas we needed strengthening at the beginning of the window which was a younger, specialised RB, a back up for Bobby and a younger goalscorer.
This of course could all change by the end of the window if we sign the likes of Cisse or similar. I'm not advocating we spend millions necessarily, but add some quality to a very thin squad.
Be an interesting couple of days (I hope!).
According to me is Baird a better footballer than Grygera, although is Grygera an excellent backup because of his experience and that he can play in all defense positions.
Hard to believe that Jol thinks the same.
Interesting to look back on our intial reaction when we were linked with him. I wonder if his surgery has taken place yet and whether we will see him again?
I think his surgery will be performed in December. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll see him in a Fulham shirt again.