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Fulham transfer window raid for Wigan's Hugo Rodallega
Nov 27 2011 by Dave Kidd, The People
FULHAM plan a raid for Wigan striker Hugo Rodallega – and hope to tie up an agreement before the January transfer window opens, writes Dave Kidd.
The Colombian is out of contract in June and the struggling Latics could cash in on him after his goals dried up alarmingly.
Fulham boss Martin Jol has been backed by the club's board to freshen up an ageing squad, and he also has Bristol City striker Nicky Maynard on his radar.
Andy Johnson is likely to leave in January while fellow striker Bobby Zamora is unsettled.
Rodallega, 26, is Jol's No.1 target in the mid-season window, with a £3million bid on the cards.
Arsene Wenger is said to be unconvinced after Arsenal tracked him – but Rodallega has options in Italy, Turkey and the Middle East.
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Hmmmmm not overly convinced by this one. Perhaps he will develop in a stronger team...?
Really? Why?
We really need a finisher and not another fast and clever player with no end product. But a great player on his day.
Quote from: SKSW6 on November 27, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Several years reading this sort of thing now, and I still don't understand the mentality. Rather a guy who is underperforming because he has Prem experience rather than someone who is sticking them in in another league.
Quote from: HatterDon on November 27, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on November 27, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Several years reading this sort of thing now, and I still don't understand the mentality. Rather a guy who is underperforming because he has Prem experience rather than someone who is sticking them in in another league.
I'm curious, where does this thinking come from? I haven't been around long enough but seems to me that getting someone who has confidence is better than someone who doesn't, unless of course you are convinced you can snap the low confidence player out of it.....both a bit of gamble but why do we always prefer the Prem player who is out of form? I'm just curious what others think.
suspect it's all about the style of play: AJ's not exactly a flair player and is on the downswing; Rodellega is youngish and has all kinds of ability and would fit with Jol's more expansive ideals. He may very well be disillusioned at Wigan but I reckon he's a cracking player.
Quote from: RidgeRider on November 27, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on November 27, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on November 27, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Several years reading this sort of thing now, and I still don't understand the mentality. Rather a guy who is underperforming because he has Prem experience rather than someone who is sticking them in in another league.
I'm curious, where does this thinking come from? I haven't been around long enough but seems to me that getting someone who has confidence is better than someone who doesn't, unless of course you are convinced you can snap the low confidence player out of it.....both a bit of gamble but why do we always prefer the Prem player who is out of form? I'm just curious what others think.
buy low I guess. Rodellega's ability may be x, his recent performances y. For whatever reason, but Jol will think he can get a certain level of performance out of the player, and with relegation on the cards there's no chance of him signing a new contract. What that means is that he's almost certainly going to be a bargain. £3m is a reserve player/squad player fee, Rodellega's worth more than that whatever role he ends up playing.
Quote from: RidgeRider on November 27, 2011, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on November 27, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on November 27, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Several years reading this sort of thing now, and I still don't understand the mentality. Rather a guy who is underperforming because he has Prem experience rather than someone who is sticking them in in another league.
I'm curious, where does this thinking come from? I haven't been around long enough but seems to me that getting someone who has confidence is better than someone who doesn't, unless of course you are convinced you can snap the low confidence player out of it.....both a bit of gamble but why do we always prefer the Prem player who is out of form? I'm just curious what others think.
I remember Hodgson being commended by some journo about getting in a good player like Hangeland. Roy commented that of course he knew Hangeland was a good player from managing him previously, but NO manager knows in advance whether that good player is going to cut it in the prem or not, which is why players with a prem track record command bigger transfer fees.
Quote from: HatterDon on November 27, 2011, 03:35:04 PM
Quote from: SKSW6 on November 27, 2011, 02:17:18 PM
Wigan fans say he's massively over rated, but he does have PL experience which is something he has over some of the other strikers we've been linked with.
Several years reading this sort of thing now, and I still don't understand the mentality. Rather a guy who is underperforming because he has Prem experience rather than someone who is sticking them in in another league.
Personally I'm against this signing and agree it's not a brilliant reason , I was just giving potential positives.
Quote from: RidgeRider on November 27, 2011, 02:46:47 PM
Really? Why?
Just thinking that sometimes you put an under-performing individual in to a different team with a new manager and it can be a new lease of life.
I would not be unhappy with him at the club. Ok has not set Wigan on fire but we have better players and he would/may get better service.
Quote from: Burt on November 27, 2011, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on November 27, 2011, 02:46:47 PM
Really? Why?
Just thinking that sometimes you put an under-performing individual in to a different team with a new manager and it can be a new lease of life.
Perfect example being BZ and then the opposite, AJ, well not entirely opposite but he has been less than what we expected.
I'm thinking of guys like Jerome, Jones, Crouch, Keane, and Torres who all left there respective teams out of form and have not really panned out for any of their new teams.
Got to remember he plays in a pretty lousy Wigan team. Always looks very isolated because he's playing upfront by himself. He may fair better off here where team confidence is generally better. I think he's worth a punt though, he's young, quick and fairly strong and proven in the past that he can finish although he's hit a rough patch at the moment. Think he'd offer us something different to what we get from Bobby and AJ. I endorse this transfer!
The only problem/question mark I have with this story is that Fulham and AM have always kept their cards close to their chest. Why talk about it now? Nothing good coming out of that. Someone is either leaking news (probably the agent) or simply the author is making it up (which Dave Kidd usually doesn't do).
I am a bit caught in the middle of cheering or "believe it when I see it"
A surprisingly speculative piece from DK and probably more in line with the need to fill a column inch than anything else. Daresay Kirsty Gallagher is on Jol's radar, but doubt she'll be filling one of Kappa's finest come January..... :dft003:
Quote from: Jack Fulham on November 27, 2011, 04:41:37 PM
Got to remember he plays in a pretty lousy Wigan team. Always looks very isolated because he's playing upfront by himself. He may fair better off here where team confidence is generally better. I think he's worth a punt though, he's young, quick and fairly strong and proven in the past that he can finish although he's hit a rough patch at the moment. Think he'd offer us something different to what we get from Bobby and AJ. I endorse this transfer!
This was what I was trying to say earlier in the thread...although with not as much explanation behind it :dft011:
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 27, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
We really need a finisher and not another fast and clever player with no end product. But a great player on his day.
We desparately need a fast counter attacking player to establish Jol's 4-3-3. Rodallega can play on the wings in a 4-3-3 and would be a very good player to start off with.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on November 27, 2011, 11:38:08 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 27, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
We really need a finisher and not another fast and clever player with no end product. But a great player on his day.
We desparately need a fast counter attacking player to establish Jol's 4-3-3. Rodallega can play on the wings in a 4-3-3 and would be a very good player to start off with.
Not at all, we have Dempsey. He's very fast but in a deceptive way!
Quote from: Jack Fulham on November 27, 2011, 11:59:29 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on November 27, 2011, 11:38:08 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 27, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
We really need a finisher and not another fast and clever player with no end product. But a great player on his day.
We desparately need a fast counter attacking player to establish Jol's 4-3-3. Rodallega can play on the wings in a 4-3-3 and would be a very good player to start off with.
Not at all, we have Dempsey. He's very fast but in a deceptive way!
Do you mean in a Six Million Dollar man type running way?
yes we need that player he is great bring him to Fulham he scored a lot of goals there
I would like to see him here, especially if we can get him for a knock down price.
He may not be the most prolific of scorers, but offers inexpensive premier league experience and would reduce the age of the squad.
This is the umpteenth 'striker' that has been a target. To paraphrase a joke by Mr. Peabody: the end of the line is in Manchester!
Quote from: sipwell on November 28, 2011, 09:17:58 AM
This is the umpteenth 'striker' that has been a target. To paraphrase a joke by Mr. Peabody: the end of the line is in Manchester!
Who are we linked with there then ? Can't see any of the Citeh boys fitting in so it must be ..............................
Someone had better tell him we have severed our links with Harrods !
Quote from: ScalleysDad on November 28, 2011, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: sipwell on November 28, 2011, 09:17:58 AM
This is the umpteenth 'striker' that has been a target. To paraphrase a joke by Mr. Peabody: the end of the line is in Manchester!
Who are we linked with there then ? Can't see any of the Citeh boys fitting in so it must be ..............................
Someone had better tell him we have severed our links with Harrods !
Gignac
El Hamdaoui
Amauri
Del Piero
etc.
etc.
etc.
Mr Sipwell,
You left out Teddy Sheringham in a surprise comeback :005:
Don't these tabloids have something better to do than making all this crap up?
Quote from: finnster01 on November 28, 2011, 10:29:48 AM
Mr Sipwell,
You left out Teddy Sheringham in a surprise comeback :005:
Don't these tabloids have something better to do than making all this crap up?
No!!! :dft009: