The fans or the journos? I think he's having a go at the fans, but I understand where he's coming from
Us.
The team was booed off (by some) at half time.
We have to understand that our players have played 15 or so more matches than the teams we're playing. The standards will dip.
In its own way today was impressive because despite not playing well we turned it round and won.
As ever, Roy is right.
i thought the booers were booing at the ref rather than the players, but some will never be happy... I hate to see the wise man angry with the fans who love him!
Well I too certainly got the overwhelming impression that the booing was directed at the officials and most certainly not the players.
TW
Roy- if you're reading this then it was 100% directed at Twattwnburg.
Mind you, judging by your furious reaction at their goal then I would have thought you would also have given the boys and Dutch Elm disease a roasting.
Regards,
Jim Pav
Roy should not start catching the Zamora decease and think everyboy is against him There was never any doubt that the fans were booing the official. For goodness sake we are becoming precious aren't we?
I don't think he was talking about the booing but what the fans were shouting to the players.
I also think it Roy is wrong to say that sooner or later the team will give a bad performance and lose 2 0r 3 nil at home. We have already given plenty of poor performances, all away from home but why he thinks he needs to make excuses. We get it. Fulham have had a great season. Lets not start spoiling it by pretending the fans are suddenly going to be shocked by a poor display. We are not that stupid but fans must be allowed to react.
No at worst 1.4 finals in two cups and mid table. Nearly 60 games played and a great season. But the odd moan is to be expected.
I think the West Ham action has really 'got to' Roy. He appears to be really offended that his judgment and actions have been called into question. His '' My conscious is clear '' has been said more than once.
Hell !!!! I am really offended that Fools -Gold is allowed to take this action against Saint Roy.
Quote: Fulham manager Roy Hodgson has had enough of dissenting voices at Craven Cottage.
His side's lacklustre first-half display in their 53rd game of the season was greeted by catcalls of derision from some fans.
Hodgson, with a Europa League semi-final still a possibility and Premier League safety surely secured, said: 'It would be nice if people showed some sort of understanding because I feel the players don't deserve people shouting at them to "wake up".
'It's not a question of waking up; it's a question of getting tired legs going again.' unquote
The front of the JH were jeering and fist waving at half time .................... they do not need much, those degenerate should realise that the team does not need that, and booing the Officials does nothing except hurts the team if there is a misunderstanding. That is why I love the Europa games , as the ba$tards are replaced by the away supporters :038:
I agree with Lighthouse, Roy should not have said what he did .......
Quote from: KCat on April 05, 2010, 09:21:03 AM
I agree with Lighthouse, Roy should not have said what he did .......
I think he should say what's on his mind. I want to know what he's thinking and it ought to influence us in the judgements we make.
The Sun explain it here. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2920172/Roys-rage-at-posh-fans.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2920172/Roys-rage-at-posh-fans.html)
ROY HODGSON blasted Fulham's prawn-sandwich brigade for berating his players.
The Cottagers boss was miffed that some fans turned on his team as they trailed at home to Wigan before a second-half comeback sealed a 2-1 win.
Fulham have played 53 games this season - after reaching the last eight of the Europa League.
And Hodgson said: "We've done so much this year that sooner or later we're going to hit a barrier we're incapable of surmounting.
"It would be nice if people showed some sympathy and understanding for that.
"They don't deserve people shouting at them to wake up. It's a question of getting tired legs going yet again.
"I mean the people behind me, the more executive types, than those in the Hammersmith End."
Stefano Okaka and Brede Hangeland struck after Jason Scotland's opener for Wigan.
To be fair, the first half was like watching the Sanchez team playing again. It was bloody horrible. And no I did not boo.
I only saw the game as per the Sky tv cut, and one presumes they try to pick out the best bits, and for all I know the rest of the match (unshown on Sky) might have been dire. But I have to say that what I saw provided no justification for criticism of the team, Wigan or indeed the ref.
Some good moves in the first half and we could easily have scored one, with Duff and the two full backs looking particularly lively. And when one considers what happened with Elm at half time, his performance was astonishingly good - poor bloke must have been feeling really dickie but put himself about effectively, could have scored one and was prevented from having another go only by a cynical foul by the Wigan guy with whom we've been linked. I suspect nine times out of ten Mark would have saved Jason Scotland's shot, but if that is the worst mistake he makes before the end of the season we've no worries.
Yes, three or four reasonable shouts for penalties but the Sky coverage suggests the ref. got them all right. The only palpably wrong call I saw was by a linesman wrongly flagging a Wigan player offside when in on goal, though Mark saved his effort anyway (and I am sure neither the Wigan player nor Mark knew the move was offside before the shot and save).
Danny has been criticised for some misplaced passes, and he made a really bad one against Wolfsburg. But some telling ones, too, and on what I saw on the Sky cut he had a perfectly reasonable game - as did everyone, with Gera for me MOTM.
As for Wigan being the worse team we've played at the Cottage, not in my view. They played some nice football and as their manager says it was two errors which cost them. Scharmer trying to be too clever for the first (reminiscent of both Konch. and Riise on occasion), and failure to have people on both posts for the second. One could argue that all three goals were soft and that a draw would not have been an unreasonable result on the overall performances of both sides.
To my mind Wigan are much better than Hull or Burnley (we can't yet take a view about Wolvs. or West Ham), and they will only get better under their current manager. With Coyle at Bolton, the number of non-footballing sides will be down to two next season if Hull go down: just Blackburn and Stoke. And Newcastle, WBA and those looking likely to make the play offs look reasonable footballing sides, too.
Quote from: Oakeshott on April 05, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
I only saw the game as per the Sky tv cut, and one presumes they try to pick out the best bits, and for all I know the rest of the match (unshown on Sky) might have been dire. But I have to say that what I saw provided no justification for criticism of the team, Wigan or indeed the ref.
Some good moves in the first half and we could easily have scored one, with Duff and the two full backs looking particularly lively. And when one considers what happened with Elm at half time, his performance was astonishingly good - poor bloke must have been feeling really dickie but put himself about effectively, could have scored one and was prevented from having another go only by a cynical foul by the Wigan guy with whom we've been linked. I suspect nine times out of ten Mark would have saved Jason Scotland's shot, but if that is the worst mistake he makes before the end of the season we've no worries.
Yes, three or four reasonable shouts for penalties but the Sky coverage suggests the ref. got them all right. The only palpably wrong call I saw was by a linesman wrongly flagging a Wigan player offside when in on goal, though Mark saved his effort anyway (and I am sure neither the Wigan player nor Mark knew the move was offside before the shot and save).
Danny has been criticised for some misplaced passes, and he made a really bad one against Wolfsburg. But some telling ones, too, and on what I saw on the Sky cut he had a perfectly reasonable game - as did everyone, with Gera for me MOTM.
As for Wigan being the worse team we've played at the Cottage, not in my view. They played some nice football and as their manager says it was two errors which cost them. Scharmer trying to be too clever for the first (reminiscent of both Konch. and Riise on occasion), and failure to have people on both posts for the second. One could argue that all three goals were soft and that a draw would not have been an unreasonable result on the overall performances of both sides.
To my mind Wigan are much better than Hull or Burnley (we can't yet take a view about Wolvs. or West Ham), and they will only get better under their current manager. With Coyle at Bolton, the number of non-footballing sides will be down to two next season if Hull go down: just Blackburn and Stoke. And Newcastle, WBA and those looking likely to make the play offs look reasonable footballing sides, too.
Yes mate I agree the team shouldn't have been booed but please don't be so naive as to judging a game on a few seconds of Sky highlights. The first half was pretty dire, and you say that it looked like Danny played some decent passes, but frankly he was terrible. On a number of occasions on about the half way line he literally passed it straight to one of their players, reminded me of the occasion he did this against Wolfsburg when thankfully they wasted that opportunity. Yes the team shouldn't have been booed but it really was a poor first half, with the exception of Gera who was, as he has been for a while now, outstanding.
Personally, I like it when a manager defends his players as passionately as Roy did yesterday. Perhaps the booing and the "wake up" calls really were aimed at Clattenburg, but the Craven Cottage crowd definately has form when it comes to booing the boys in White -- or at least individuals wearing the home shirt. It's pretty common, you must admit. Well done, Roy, for
a. coming the the lads defense AND
b. for owning up that you made a mistake fielding a striker who was still suffering from a virus
BBP
It wasn't a few seconds, more like a third of the game. And as I said in my first post, the rest may have been dire.
Quote from: HatterDon on April 05, 2010, 01:59:12 PM
Personally, I like it when a manager defends his players as passionately as Roy did yesterday. Perhaps the booing and the "wake up" calls really were aimed at Clattenburg, but the Craven Cottage crowd definately has form when it comes to booing the boys in White -- or at least individuals wearing the home shirt. It's pretty common, you must admit. Well done, Roy, for
a. coming the the lads defense AND
b. for owning up that you made a mistake fielding a striker who was still suffering from a virus
So in other words if Roy held up the body of his 15th murder victim he would still be applauded for admitting he was a mass murderer. One of us is nice and the other just cynical I guess. :dft012:
Quote from: Oakeshott on April 05, 2010, 02:57:01 PM
BBP
It wasn't a few seconds, more like a third of the game. And as I said in my first post, the rest may have been dire.
Because of Easter activities. I watched the game last night. Watched the entire first half and skipped through the second half to watch just the goals. I wasn't at the Cottage BUT............to say we were 'dire' is just inflammatory in my opinion. We played decent, we created a few chances, and could have scored. Scotland's goal was good but not an indication of how we were playing. He struck a bouncy pass to him, off the bounce, and struck it well enough to squirt in. No wonder goal. Kind of lucky really.
I thought Wigan played with energy and determination in the first half and we responded well, albeit somewhat slowly. They created some chances for themselves as we were unable to disrupt enough in the midfield but again, we created chances and for the most part, defended well. It could have just as easily been 1-0 us at half IMHO.
Implicit in Roy's comments is the notion that the players have played a lot of games and can't be expected to be as "on song" all the time.
From that perspective, the weekend games were interesting. Four teams only have been playing virtually every 3-4 days for ages: Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U and us (nice company for find ourselves in, and not inconceivable that we'll be the only team in Europe at the end of the next round of games).
Both Arsenal and we had home games in the week, and both just beat sides they would expect to beat more comfortably with a full complement of players and equal rest time with the opposition.
Both Man U and Liverpool had away games and thus the travel in addition to the midweek game, and neither won. Obviously we can't be sure about the Man U situation, given the opposition, but they'd surely have been more likely to have got a result if they'd not played mid-week (and thus had more rest and a fit Rooney), and although Birmingham are doing well I'd expect a rested Liverpool side to beat them, especially after taking the lead.
When one considers that we've played more games than the other three teams, and have less "proven Premiership level" players, it is remarkable that we continue to do so well. But whatever happens on Thursday, and even bearing in mind that Liverpool have a midweek game too, I don't think I'll be betting on us getting a result next Sunday!
Good post Oakeshott