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Title: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: zzamora on October 14, 2012, 01:36:39 PM
Been a bit of a seemingly random blow up in the Arshavin rumour. The Daily Star and Daily Express have reported that Fulham are in pole position to sign him for free in January.

Bit random timing, so many have some truth in it, considering that the rumours have stopped recently for all clubs.

Doubt it myself, but firstly, what do you think about the rumour, and secondly, would you want him at our great club?

I would, fantastic little player, just played in the wrong position at Arsenal. Would seriously challenge Ruiz for that behind-striker role and would add a different option/dimension to our player.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/352032/Fulham-favourites-to-sign-Arsenal-midfielder-Andrey-Arshavin-on-a-free (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/352032/Fulham-favourites-to-sign-Arsenal-midfielder-Andrey-Arshavin-on-a-free)

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/277016/? (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/277016/?)

MARTIN JOL TO BAG ANDREY ARSHAVIN

14th October 2012 By Tony Stenson

FULHAM manager Martin Jol has Arsenal's restless Russian forward Andrey Arshavin on his wanted list when the transfer window opens again in January.

Arshavin, 31, is in limbo at The Emirates after becoming a bit-part player recently.

And, although several clubs want him back home in his native land, he loves living in London. The lure of playing alongside Dimitar Berbatov, 31, might be just what he needs to get his game back in gear.

Jol admits that he has money to spend following the sales of Moussa Dembele and Clint Dempsey to Tottenham and Arsenal's paltry £1million pound asking price would be chicken feed. Jol said: "The club's chairman Mohamed Al Fayed said before the season you can spend the same amount as last year.

"But we sold for over £30m and only bought for £8m.

"So I am 100 per cent certain he knows there is a lot in the kitty."

Another boost for Jol is that former Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos, 27, is now available for the first time this season after his foot injury.

Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: cebu on October 14, 2012, 01:44:52 PM
Sounds like an old story being "reheated" as there's little real news this week. But who knows - when it was first announced in summer that Berba would leave Manu, there was banter on here about Fulham signing him. Most of us didn't believe that one and were proven very wrong.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: west kowloon white on October 14, 2012, 01:53:54 PM
Yawn
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Max Headroom on October 14, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
we have more than enough attacking midfielders at the moment...

Ruiz, Duff, Richardson, Kacaniklic, Frei, we don't need another
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: zzamora on October 14, 2012, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: Max Headroom on October 14, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
we have more than enough attacking midfielders at the moment...

Ruiz, Duff, Richardson, Kacaniklic, Frei, we don't need another

Duff, Richardson, Kaca, Frei, Dejagah, Davies = Wingers.

Ruiz= CAM. Arshavin = CAM. No?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: craig10 on October 14, 2012, 03:24:44 PM
Would take him on a free 100%
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Sheepskin Junior on October 14, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
I said it in the summer when we were linked with him, and I'll say it again. No thank you. Do not like him at all.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Mr Fulham on October 14, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
OH I HOPE NOT.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: zzamora on October 14, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
Quote from: Sheepskin Junior on October 14, 2012, 03:28:51 PM
I said it in the summer when we were linked with him, and I'll say it again. No thank you. Do not like him at all.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on October 14, 2012, 03:32:42 PM
OH I HOPE NOT.

Not even on a free?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Mr Fulham on October 14, 2012, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: ddeuce on October 14, 2012, 03:51:25 PM
Not even on a free?

I don't see what he brings to the party. He's just another of those over-aged players that only block the first team places. I'd rather we give Kasami a run out (he was very impressive for the swiss U21 again), or Kacaniklic, or Frei.

There's no need to sign another old player on high wages when you've got enough players really.

Kacaniklic, Kasami, Ruiz, Duff, Dejagah, Frei, Richardson, Berbatov - that should be enough for now with regards to the attacking mid positions.

And even if we opt to sign another attacking midfielder - I'd rather we try and sign a younger player as there are plenty of interesting ones - for example in the dutch league or in Germany.
Nacer Chadli for instance.

Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Burt on October 14, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
On his day (right position, and motivated) I quite rate him. He is very much a confidence player though, so the conditions would have to be just so.

Nothing to lose if it's a freebie, I guess.

And I always remember being gobsmacked when he scored those 4 goals at Anfield.
Title: Re: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: MJG on October 14, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
No he would hold back players we already have.
CM and one attacker are the positions we need to look at, we are not short of wide men.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on October 14, 2012, 09:59:50 PM
No way José. His very large wage package would be better spent brining in a quality long term CM replacement or central defender.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: LRCN on October 14, 2012, 10:23:26 PM
i really like him but would be a totally unecessary signing.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: NogoodBoyo on October 15, 2012, 12:42:38 AM
Why does Mr Fulham always talk such good sense?
Nogood "no more to say really, isit" Boyo
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Snibbo on October 15, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
Would he be the smallest Fulham player since Bobby Moss?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: NogoodBoyo on October 15, 2012, 01:52:08 AM
Please - no more freebie oldies.  The injuries are killing us.
Nogood "common sense, isit" Boyo
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: MisfitKid on October 15, 2012, 02:44:10 AM
I have to agree with a few here, no thanks.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: GoldCoastWhite on October 15, 2012, 02:47:23 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on October 15, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
Would he be the smallest Fulham player since Bobby Moss?
Have you forgotten Pesky already ?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: HatterDon on October 15, 2012, 05:04:23 AM
yet another in a long series of articles that have, as their presupposition, Fulham's role in the Premier League is to take elderly, crocked, or difficult players off the rosters of the "top" clubs.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: JBH on October 15, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
Quote from: GoldCoastWhite on October 15, 2012, 02:47:23 AM
Quote from: Snibbo on October 15, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
Would he be the smallest Fulham player since Bobby Moss?
Have you forgotten Pesky already ?

Don't forget Rufus  065.gif
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Rupert on October 15, 2012, 08:42:19 AM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on October 15, 2012, 12:42:38 AM
Why does Mr Fulham always talk such good sense?
Nogood "no more to say really, isit" Boyo

That's his job, so the rest of us can continue spouting b@llocks  :59:
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: ClarksOriginal on October 15, 2012, 10:39:24 AM
I'd be happy if we signed Arshavin, especially on a free. I see the point that we have a vast number of attacking players, however, some of these have little/no Prem experience... now whilst I appreciate that they are very talented players, especially the likes of Frei, Kaca & Dejagah - will they be able to turn a game like the experienced Russian man will? I'm not so sure.

I think whilst Kaca looked very good against Southampton when Richardson came on we looked a far more balanced side with a bit more strength down the left.

I think we are sometimes blinded by what the press lead us to believe, however if we actually remember what we have SEEN, i.e 4 goals against LFC (albeit 3 years ago), countless assists and in Russia's opening game of Euro2012 he was exceptional. If we manage to get that performance out of him 7-10 times a season then he could be a really effective signing.

If we manage to keep him fit and in shape, I see no reason why he can't perform to a high standard in the middle rather than being chucked out on the left.

Just my opinion, but I'd have Andrei. 

(I have a soft spot for Russia/Zenit players)
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: tommy on October 15, 2012, 10:59:10 AM
He's a very good player and is only 31. I don't see a problem with signing him. He still has a lot to offer.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: domprague on October 15, 2012, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: tommy on October 15, 2012, 10:59:10 AM
He's a very good player and is only 31. I don't see a problem with signing him. He still has a lot to offer.

+1
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: BestOfBrede on October 15, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
He'll be off to Reading I would think - they will pay him more and have the Rusky connection.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Mr Fulham on October 15, 2012, 01:45:33 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 15, 2012, 05:04:23 AM
yet another in a long series of articles that have, as their presupposition, Fulham's role in the Premier League is to take elderly, crocked, or difficult players off the rosters of the "top" clubs.
They are not that wrong with that.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Mr_Moon on October 15, 2012, 01:59:52 PM
To answer the questions, the rumour can't be anything more than agent talk and re-hashing an old story in what must be a slow day for news. I don't want him to join us as it's going to impede on the development of Frei and Kacaniklic, both of whom are on the verge of their respective national squads. For what it's worth, I don't think either of the youngsters will ever reach the level of which Arshavin has in the past, but they'll both become competent Premier League players.

The left wing or wide left slot is one we don't need to strengthen, so I really can't see any justification for acquiring Arshavin. During his tenure at Arsenal, I must have watched 75% of their televised games as my good mates are fans. Arshavin was bobar for them, really poor and disinterested after the honeymoon period wore off. For Zenit last season he was fantastic and back to his best, whilst for Russia he was impressive during the Euros. It's clear he still has the ability to tear a defence apart, but for the reasons stated in the first paragraph, it's a no.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: fulham traveller on October 15, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
yes for me, would put ffc on the russian map as well, so when i go off to sharm and meet the ruskies i can say arshevin, seriously a good free agent, worth a punt
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: cottage cheese on October 15, 2012, 05:42:01 PM
there is no risk in this at all. Sign him on a one year deal

People forget, Petric had a god awful season in light of how good he can be and no one picked up on that.

We wont know untill arshavin actually signs
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: perry geyton on October 15, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
i have a bad feeling that where gonna swap him for Brede !
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on October 15, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
Well it is possible,   another talented player who has not realised his potential ............ we appear to be in the market for that type of player  :023:

Has Brede signed that contract extension yet  ????

............ on the plus side Wenger has never signed a Fulham Player 

As for tiddler player I used to think it was Pembo  but actually it was Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed at 5' 6''
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: HatterDon on October 15, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Arshavin had a great half-season, a fair half-season, and two full seasons of frustrating management and fans by playing at half speed and showing no pitch awareness. The only decent football he played after that great first half-season with Arsenal was during his loan period to Russia when he was trying to regain the shirt he lost by being so dire in the Prem. He's done nothing for them this season, and he'll just be a lazy underachiever for us. Skills, yes. Attitude, no.

Don't want him; don't need him; he'll lower the overall quality of the squad.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Count Berbatov on October 16, 2012, 07:17:20 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on October 15, 2012, 11:11:40 PM
Arshavin had a great half-season, a fair half-season, and two full seasons of frustrating management and fans by playing at half speed and showing no pitch awareness. The only decent football he played after that great first half-season with Arsenal was during his loan period to Russia when he was trying to regain the shirt he lost by being so dire in the Prem. He's done nothing for them this season, and he'll just be a lazy underachiever for us. Skills, yes. Attitude, no.

Don't want him; don't need him; he'll lower the overall quality of the squad.
My sentiments exactly. He's bad news. You need a different type of player anyways
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Joe McDonald on October 16, 2012, 08:55:41 AM
I think he'd be a good short term signing.  Wenger says his attititude is actually pretty good and that hestill trains hard despite not being part oftheir first team plans.  I would think he still has something to prove and could offer us two years good service.  On his day he is a class player, and itcan't b a bad thing having another class player on our books.

KCat - how many playerslike that have we picked up and they've gone on to shine for us?  Murphy, Hughes, Duff, Zamora (to a point).  Most on here thought they were past their best/hadn't fulfilled their potential.

If we could land him on a wage that doesn't break the club's wage structure, then I for one am all for it.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: ClarksOriginal on October 16, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 15, 2012, 06:26:31 PM
i have a bad feeling that where gonna swap him for Brede !

Why would they do that when they have 3 absolutely quality CBs?

Mertesaker strolls into the Germany squad, same with Koscielny and France. Vermaelen is the Capt. of Belgium.

They also have Djourou, who whilst he isn't the best would probably get into most PL teams... It's probably one of Arsenals strongest positions.

I can't see Brede going to Arsenal.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: McBridefan1 on October 16, 2012, 03:48:14 PM
I always like some veteran players in my teams especially in midfield. A smart calm possessor of the ball sounds good to me. I do understand the wish to go with the youth movement, but having a guy with the class of a shaven arse can't hurt, Can it?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: DiegoFulham on October 16, 2012, 07:15:46 PM
I personally unlike others think this could actually be a good signing, before Arsenal he singled Handley won the UEFA/Europa League for that Russian team that Pog played as... 
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Riverside on October 18, 2012, 06:37:16 PM
If only he was a CM ........

But on the left when we have Kaca , Frei and Richardson ?
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: farfouille on October 18, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: Riverside on October 18, 2012, 06:37:16 PM
If only he was a CM ........

But on the left when we have Kaca , Frei and Richardson ?

Isn't Arshavin a forward? I believe he plays as a second forward, something like Bryan Ruiz. Anyway, I think we have enough attacking players. If I were in Jol's shoes, I would be looking for an established creative CM as we lack creativity. Bryan Ruiz seems to be playing this role but creativity is definitely not his thing.
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: jazz hardrockin on October 18, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
They don't want him in Russia and Arsenal,some of you want him at Fulham..... 064.gif because????
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: JackyFulham90 on October 18, 2012, 08:42:26 PM
Good player but he is not needed here I feel, we have great wide talents in Kacaniklic , Frei , Dejagah , Duff , Richardson and in attacking midfield we have Ruiz Berbatov & Kasami who can go there I would rather we strengthened other positions personally
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: cebu on October 18, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: jazz hardrockin on October 18, 2012, 08:30:49 PM
They don't want him in Russia and Arsenal,some of you want him at Fulham..... 064.gif because????

Secretly we're hoping someone will want us when we're old ... maybe?    :032:
Title: Re: Andrei Arshavin to Sign?
Post by: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on October 18, 2012, 08:56:43 PM
if and it's a very big IF,we can get his head right,I'd take him him on a free for 2 seasons,but the money needs to be spent on defenders I'm afraid,Brede and Aaron are not the players they one where,they need replacements now,so we can bring players off the bench and given them cover