He has looked a lot better this season a lot stronger but he still frustrates but hopefully he can stay clear of injury as I'm excited to see him play with Berbatov, Ruiz is a classy player I genuinely think by the end of the season people will be raving about him .. classy player
Agreed. As long as he stays injury free and gets a good run in the first team with settled players around him hopefully he will dwell on the ball less often.
He has the skill.. The Dutch rave about his ability. Hes so inconsistent and appears to be lightweight. Last season we were saying he'll need a season to get used to the pace of the Premiership. His performance against against Southampton showed he still hasn't quite made the standard.
Quote from: mr-ska on October 15, 2012, 11:50:42 PM
His performance against against Southampton showed he still hasn't quite made the standard.
By the same token you coudl say that aboutthe rest of the team! He's looked better the longer he has been at the club imo and will hopefully show it mroe often. When on form he is glorious to watch!
Also, bear in mind, Fulham has a completely new midfield and forward combination. Time still needed to gel a bit more.
He has shown in every game this season he can be a game changer and could control the game he flits in and out of the game. even against Southampton when we had out good period early in the 2nd half he was at the cetre of many of the moves but then faded out again, which is what frustrates us, not that he plays badly but that he could really dominate most of our games if he could do it over 60-70 minutes of a game.
Im sorry but I dont think he will become consistently good. Yes he has it moments of genius and class but for over 10 million you would expect that every game.
Im not doubting the guys talent, im more suggesting he will never fully adapt to this league which will prevent him from playing like he did at twente. He seems to get niggles here and there which prevents him from playing week in week out which he needs to get better.
I really want it to workout for him and im giving him a lot of time to prove his worth.
But I do wonder if Dutch defences are pretty crap for him to score 20 odd goals on a season. I just don't see it him in at the moment.
Worse of all I get really worried when he has the ball in our own half with only the defence behind him. I fully expect him to lose the ball and we are back in danger. Im at the point that he has to be so far up front that Berbatov would be in midfield.
Lots of skill and we have seen glimpses of it, but not much more than that.
I'm with MJG and pretty much agree with everything he's said.
As much as I like Bryan, I can't see how on earth he scored as many goals as he did in the Dutch league, the defences (and goalies) there must be terrible!
He is strong, he is fast and he's full of fizz
That class man from Costa Rica is Brian Ruiz
I REALLY hope I am wrong but I don't see it myself. Great hair but little control of play...
Quote from: Edward_Winston_Malone on October 16, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
I REALLY hope I am wrong but I don't see it myself. Great hair but little control of play...
Cut his hair and he would lose all his strength.
He's looking a lot stronger physically this year. I'm hopeful.
He needs to stop retweeting inspirational quotes from Will Smith, though.
There are 2 Ruiz's today
1) going forward game changer that can open defences and will be able to score goals.
2) a defensive liability that cannot hold the ball
Twente must have been on the front foot for him to score 20.
So the key is how we are with possession and direction of play.
1) Home against lower half teams is his element .
2) away or home against top 4-6 more of a liability sadly .
With a good CM there can be more 1s
Quote from: MJG on October 16, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
Worse of all I get really worried when he has the ball in our own half with only the defence behind him. I fully expect him to lose the ball and we are back in danger.
YOU being worried does not make HIM a bad player.
I thought that non-argument was reserved for Senderos.
His price tag also doesn't affect the way he plays. It has also been repeatedly stated that it wasn't even £10m.
He's clearly one of our most creative players and we haven't seen him with Berba yet. He gets hammered by spectators despite often being our best player on the pitch, it's pathetic.
I'd say he's not going to come good, he's already good.
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on October 17, 2012, 07:12:36 AM
Quote from: MJG on October 16, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
Worse of all I get really worried when he has the ball in our own half with only the defence behind him. I fully expect him to lose the ball and we are back in danger.
YOU being worried does not make HIM a bad player.
I thought that non-argument was reserved for Senderos.
His price tag also doesn't affect the way he plays. It has also been repeatedly stated that it wasn't even £10m.
He's clearly one of our most creative players and we haven't seen him with Berba yet. He gets hammered by spectators despite often being our best player on the pitch, it's pathetic.
I'd say he's not going to come good, he's already good.
Not sure who you have been watching...
Quote from: rhyspabsolom on October 17, 2012, 07:12:36 AM
Quote from: MJG on October 16, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
Worse of all I get really worried when he has the ball in our own half with only the defence behind him. I fully expect him to lose the ball and we are back in danger.
YOU being worried does not make HIM a bad player.
I thought that non-argument was reserved for Senderos.
His price tag also doesn't affect the way he plays. It has also been repeatedly stated that it wasn't even £10m.
He's clearly one of our most creative players and we haven't seen him with Berba yet. He gets hammered by spectators despite often being our best player on the pitch, it's pathetic.
I'd say he's not going to come good, he's already good.
I have never said,and would not say he is a bad player.
One question to YOU, in 30 games how often has he been our best player on the pitch?How many times in YOUR view is often?
Quote from: Edward_Winston_Malone on October 17, 2012, 07:28:39 AM
Not sure who you have been watching...
Clearly a different player to you.
MJG, I mainly mean the start of this season where he's still getting abuse even in games like Norwich where he was excellent (granted, most the team were) and Man City where we barely got near the ball but it was apparently ALL his fault.
FULHAM winger Bryan Ruiz has been ordered home after picking up a thigh injury on duty for Costa Rica.
The 27-year-old suffered the problem in the victory over El Salvador at the weekend and is set to miss Saturday's league clash at home to Aston Villa.
But Dimitar Berbatov is expected to be fit after recovering from a hip problem.
3 times at Southampton I watched him stun the ball, leaping high to chest it rather than head it - an amazing feat of skill. BUT 3 times the ball was taken from him before it reached the ground by an opposition player with probably a tenth of his ability...
Highly tuned ability in abundance but we are still waiting for him to show that he can be relied upon to influence premieship games.
To date only a couple of goals and a lot of time off injured, still hoping that he will prove to be a good player for us but am asking the question how long can we waite.
The fact that this question is asked speaks volumes. We are seven games into his second season and other than the odd flash here and there he hardly sets the world alight. I used to love Mousa, IMO he was the best player we have had for many years but I was also well aware of his shortcomings. Ruiz it seems to me is very different he rarely imposes himself on a game and so even with the odd touch here and there that just isn't enough, I just wonder if he is really as good as some people think whether he is not really suited to the Premiership.
Quote from: nose on October 17, 2012, 01:33:08 PM
The fact that this question is asked speaks volumes. We are seven games into his second season and other than the odd flash here and there he hardly sets the world alight. I used to love Mousa, IMO he was the best player we have had for many years but I was also well aware of his shortcomings. Ruiz it seems to me is very different he rarely imposes himself on a game and so even with the odd touch here and there that just isn't enough, I just wonder if he is really as good as some people think whether he is not really suited to the Premiership.
You better go back under your rock quickly before you get too cold :038:
Quote from: cottage cheese on October 16, 2012, 02:13:13 PM
Im sorry but I dont think he will become consistently good. Yes he has it moments of genius and class but for over 10 million you would expect that every game.
Im not doubting the guys talent, im more suggesting he will never fully adapt to this league which will prevent him from playing like he did at twente. He seems to get niggles here and there which prevents him from playing week in week out which he needs to get better.
Trouble is he did not put that price tag on his head, he cannot be held responsible for how much someone is willing to pay for him.
Fully aware I'll get slated for this...
Most of us have been wondering about this. Like most of us - I am desperate for him to shut us all up in a big way.
I had a look on YouTube of some of his clips. There was a compilation from his career and even a 6 minute video that consisted of everything Ruiz did during a single a champions League game against Inter Milan. (The season they won it I think)
I'd advise having a look at that one. It's probably a reasonable benchmark. It's pretty good to see 6 minutes of the ball for any one individual player ins single game. But it's not too much different from what we've already seen, for every couple great touches and passes, there is a sloppy ball or a bad decision. He just looks a lot more confident and tries some more daring things - he pulls them off though. I wonder how much more of Ruiz there is to see? If he can cut out the mistakes in his game then already he'll look a much better player
He is more robust and assertive than in his first season. The physical aspect of his game has clearly improved and I would expect this season he will put in much better performances.
I really hope he makes it for us he is a really gifted who can see things others can't my main concern with him is all these niggling injuries he is picking up which is stopping him getting a run of games
When healthy, he's has the best eye for a pass on the team and since Dembele left the best technique on the ball. Great set piece taker, if not for his injuries this season it wouldn't be a debate. One only wonders that his injury proneness might mean he never makes the impact he is clearly capable of (a la Robben in Real Madrid), because I think his quality is as plain as day.