The Twitter rumour mill seems to be suggesting that a certain Roberto Di Matteo might be coming in as a replacement for our ever-so-slightly-off-his-head manager.
Cant seem him doing well as we do not have the creativity in our team to counter the way he likes to do
Oh good grief...
If we are going down that route, then why not take a punt on Sean O'Driscoll?
Bristol have already stopped that
Di Matteo is the luckiest manager in history. Would he bring in his team of John Terry and Lampard too, to help make his decisions? I'm not sure our bus is big enough to block the whole goal either.
Di Matteo would confirm relegation.
Any manager who comes in will still face the same problems as Jol - namely we dont have a central midfield.
Remember how well Di Matteo did with WBA (a club with a similar budget and ambitions to us)?
A big mistake if true imo.
Quote from: Oiseau on January 14, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Remember how well Di Matteo did with WBA (a club with a similar budget and ambitions to us)?
And a team that was built by Roy Hodgson.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: Oiseau on January 14, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Remember how well Di Matteo did with WBA (a club with a similar budget and ambitions to us)?
And a team that was built by Roy Hodgson.
No, Hodgson replaced Di Matteo and saved them from relegation
I cannot see how this would help us at all.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on January 14, 2013, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: Oiseau on January 14, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
Remember how well Di Matteo did with WBA (a club with a similar budget and ambitions to us)?
And a team that was built by Roy Hodgson.
No, Hodgson replaced Di Matteo and saved them from relegation
Oops! Wires crossed! I knew I was close though.
i want paulo di canio!
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on January 14, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
Di Matteo would confirm relegation.
Any manager who comes in will still face the same problems as Jol - namely we dont have a central midfield.
This is very true
Anyone after Jol will be a step backwards
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on January 14, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
Anyone after Jol will be a step backwards
Massive +1. Would be incredibly foolish of us to sack Jol.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on January 14, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
Anyone after Jol will be a step backwards
But isn't Jol taking us backwards? Results have been poor for months now, this isn't just a blip, there is something clearly not right with his management skills. OK, we are without a couple of players, most teams battle through, we just seem to have totally collapsed. My theory is that he has come unstuck trying to manage a Fulham type club. At Spurs, Hamburg and Ajax he had the resources, at Fulham he's seems to stratch his head more than any other manager.
Underwhelmed!!!
Quote from: Admin on January 14, 2013, 11:49:00 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on January 14, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
Anyone after Jol will be a step backwards
But isn't Jol taking us backwards? Results have been poor for months now, this isn't just a blip, there is something clearly not right with his management skills. OK, we are without a couple of players, most teams battle through, we just seem to have totally collapsed. My theory is that he has come unstuck trying to manage a Fulham type club. At Spurs, Hamburg and Ajax he had the resources, at Fulham he's seems to stratch his head more than any other manager.
Ajax had the resources and once they ran out he left.
I want Martin Jol to stay it's the boards fault that he hasn't had a penny to spend. we sold Dembele for 15M, Dempsey 8M even bloody Dickson Etuhu for 3.5M. All this money shouldn't all go into the stand. Mr Al Fayed is a rich businessman. I love Al Fayed to pieces but Martin Jol shouldn't be fully taking the stick. brought in Berbatov who scored all thoses goals and won the goldern boot only a few years ago. brought in Petric when once apon a time he was one of the Bundersliga's best strikers, Reither the list goes on. I love Martin JOLLLL! Martin Jol likes me! (8) aha but if anyone was to take over for me only two men maybe 3 men can take over and be loved by us FFC fans and they're Lee Clark (Birmingham), Noisey(Bristol City) and Former Fulham captian and now Fulham Legend Danny Murphy (Blackburn). Plus i wouldn't want a former chelsea player/manager in charge unless his name is Damien Duff. we had another of that when we had the last one before the great Martin Jol!
Michael laudrup??
But isn't Jol taking us backwards? Results have been poor for months now, this isn't just a blip, there is something clearly not right with his management skills.
What a gift you have! Being able to completely disregard the whole of last season, or the first ten games of this one. The performances away (yes, away!) at Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Southampton, Reading, West Brom clearly mean nothing to you?
It's a blip, nothing more. Yeah, it may be a little bigger than most, but still a blip none-the-less.
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 14, 2013, 02:56:35 PM
But isn't Jol taking us backwards? Results have been poor for months now, this isn't just a blip, there is something clearly not right with his management skills.
What a gift you have! Being able to completely disregard the whole of last season, or the first ten games of this one. The performances away (yes, away!) at Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Southampton, Reading, West Brom clearly mean nothing to you?
It's a blip, nothing more. Yeah, it may be a little bigger than most, but still a blip none-the-less.
To be fair, we were crap up until the end of December last season. 14 games is definitely a lot more than a blip, it's nearly half a season of not getting results. If we had had this run of form from the start, after 14 games we would have been bottom of the table. That does actually tell you quite a lot about this 'blip'.
Quote from: fulhamross on January 14, 2013, 11:32:56 AM
i want paulo di canio!
Paulo di Canio seems like the most impossible man in the world to get along with. Very public bust-ups, leaves previously key players to rot in the reserves for little to no reason and he's only managed in the lower leagues.
If the club were to sack Jol and replace him with di Canio, we would almost certainly go down. It would be up there with the oddest managerial appointments in Football history.
To be fair, we were crap up until the end of December last season. 14 games is definitely a lot more than a blip, it's nearly half a season of not getting results. If we had had this run of form from the start, after 14 games we would have been bottom of the table. That does actually tell you quite a lot about this 'blip'.
14 games is a red-herring. It's 11 at the most; with the Sunderland game being the turning point. And whilst we may have only taken 9 points from a possible 33, some of our performances certainly merited more: Sunderland until the sending off, away to Chelsea, at home to Southampton and Swansea.
There's 16 games left, and 15 points for definite safety (although I suspect it'll be less than 40 this season). We're already averaging more than a point-per-game so there's no need for panic.
I've personally lost patience with Jol. I cant see what style he's attemping to implement, and the performances and results have been terrible. The QPR, Liverpool Blackpool, Swansea 1st half, Southampton and Wigan games were abysmal performances. We've been bottom of the form league for about 3 months now. We're not creating any chances during games, and throwing points away left right and centre. Not to mention that We're half way through an important transfer window and have done nothing. (After having 5 months to plan for it)
Realistic Candidates
Unproven but up and coming - Di Canio, Lee Clark, Eddie Howe
High Profile - Roberto Di Matteo, Claudio Ranieri, Gerrard Houllier, Ruud Gullit
Current PL Managers - Steve Clarke, Michael Laudrup
Random Longshots - John Collins, Vincenzo Montella, Gary Neville, Dennis Bergkamp, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Jurgen Klinsmann
Anyone there that people would be interested in?
Have you seen our upcoming fixtures FulhamMic?
Man City V Fulham
Fulham V West Ham
Fulham V Man Utd
Norwich V Fulham
Fulham V Stoke
Sunderland V Fulham
Fulham V Chelsea
Tottenham V Fulham
I can't see us getting a great deal of points out of the next 8 games. Possibly against West Ham and Stoke, even Norwich and Sunderland away are possibilities, but I doubt very much that we'll get anything out of the rest, if we display the form that we have recently. I hope that I will be completely wrong about this, but I simply do not have the faith anymore.
I just want a manager who can help the team move the ball forward and driving into more advanced areas, not knocking the ball to the centre half hangers who either loses possession with a long ball up or passes it to schwarzer who normally conjures up something worse lol... Real lack of movement off the ball around the team too, very worrying, everyone is just static, how could chances possibly be created this way???
Quote from: Ordar on January 14, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Realistic Candidates
Unproven but up and coming - Di Canio, Lee Clark, Eddie Howe
High Profile - Roberto Di Matteo, Claudio Ranieri, Gerrard Houllier, Ruud Gullit
Current PL Managers - Steve Clarke, Michael Laudrup
Random Longshots - John Collins, Vincenzo Montella, Gary Neville, Dennis Bergkamp, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Jurgen Klinsmann
Anyone there that people would be interested in?
Only Laudrup but he wouldn't come to us. The others are a step backwards.
roberto martinez? Would anyone want him?
How about someone with some ambition?
I got excited at the title of this thread thinking Guardiola was coming our way :005: :Get Coat gif:
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
Have you seen our upcoming fixtures FulhamMic?
Man City V Fulham 0pts
Fulham V West Ham 3pts
Fulham V Man Utd 1pts
Norwich V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Stoke 3pts
Sunderland V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Chelsea 1pts
Tottenham V Fulham 0pts
I can't see us getting a great deal of points out of the next 8 games. Possibly against West Ham and Stoke, even Norwich and Sunderland away are possibilities, but I doubt very much that we'll get anything out of the rest, if we display the form that we have recently. I hope that I will be completely wrong about this, but I simply do not have the faith anymore.
Call me optimistic, but I see at least ten points here.
Quote from: cottage cheese on January 14, 2013, 03:40:21 PM
roberto martinez? Would anyone want him?
If 100% behind Jol, but if he were to leave then Martinez would be an excellent replacement.
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
Have you seen our upcoming fixtures FulhamMic?
Man City V Fulham
Fulham V West Ham
Fulham V Man Utd
Norwich V Fulham
Fulham V Stoke
Sunderland V Fulham
Fulham V Chelsea
Tottenham V Fulham
I can't see us getting a great deal of points out of the next 8 games. Possibly against West Ham and Stoke, even Norwich and Sunderland away are possibilities, but I doubt very much that we'll get anything out of the rest, if we display the form that we have recently. I hope that I will be completely wrong about this, but I simply do not have the faith anymore.
We got a point at Stamford Bridge without Ruiz and Hangeland during this supposedly disastrous run of form, why couldn't we get something at home? Even if Chelsea beat us, if we can get two wins and two draws from the four manageable games, then its eight points from eight games and we're still on track for survival with an easier final eight games. Will we get the eight points? Maybe, maybe not, but I don't see the need to obsess about relegation when the points required should be very low and even when playing poorly we're managing to pick up draws and the odd win, which is all we really need.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on January 14, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
Quote from: Ordar on January 14, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Realistic Candidates
Unproven but up and coming - Di Canio, Lee Clark, Eddie Howe
High Profile - Roberto Di Matteo, Claudio Ranieri, Gerrard Houllier, Ruud Gullit
Current PL Managers - Steve Clarke, Michael Laudrup
Random Longshots - John Collins, Vincenzo Montella, Gary Neville, Dennis Bergkamp, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Jurgen Klinsmann
Anyone there that people would be interested in?
Only Laudrup but he wouldn't come to us. The others are a step backwards.
I think lee clark would be a gamble but one it ight be worth taking. I would imagine laudrop is happy where he is but I have liked Gus Poyet as a manager for ages and he is clever and ambitious and knows how to get the best from what he has. Poyet would be my first choice.
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 14, 2013, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
Have you seen our upcoming fixtures FulhamMic?
Man City V Fulham 0pts
Fulham V West Ham 3pts
Fulham V Man Utd 1pts
Norwich V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Stoke 3pts
Sunderland V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Chelsea 1pts
Tottenham V Fulham 0pts
I can't see us getting a great deal of points out of the next 8 games. Possibly against West Ham and Stoke, even Norwich and Sunderland away are possibilities, but I doubt very much that we'll get anything out of the rest, if we display the form that we have recently. I hope that I will be completely wrong about this, but I simply do not have the faith anymore.
Call me optimistic, but I see at least ten points here.
You know what mate, I admire your optimism. I just don't seem to possess any of it myself after the last few lacklustre games against Wigan, Southampton and QPR... If we can't get points off of them teams, I don't have any faith in getting points from the bigger teams. Of course we will get something, but I'm at odds as to where.
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 14, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: cottage cheese on January 14, 2013, 03:40:21 PM
roberto martinez? Would anyone want him?
If 100% behind Jol, but if he were to leave then Martinez would be an excellent replacement.
couldn't agree more. In Jol We Trust but if he was to go and leave us to manage in Germany then Martinez would be the man i would want. COYW's!!
Di Matteo has never proved himself as a great manager - yes he won the cl, however he screwed up a lot in the league - he led THAT chelsea team to 6th place - below newcastle.
FFC might beat Norwich and Sunderland, but we aren't going to tie Man U or Chelsea. I think Stoke and West Ham will beat us. We are in trouble. If we lose to West Ham...
Quote from: Forever Fulham on January 14, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
FFC might beat Norwich and Sunderland, but we aren't going to tie Man U or Chelsea. I think Stoke and West Ham will beat us. We are in trouble. If we lose to West Ham...
We'll still be at the very least 3-4 point above the drops. There are so many shite teams out there this season. The perfect season for transition.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on January 14, 2013, 05:14:34 PM
Quote from: Forever Fulham on January 14, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
FFC might beat Norwich and Sunderland, but we aren't going to tie Man U or Chelsea. I think Stoke and West Ham will beat us. We are in trouble. If we lose to West Ham...
We'll still be at the very least 3-4 point above the drops. There are so many shite teams out there this season. The perfect season for transition.
or a wasted chance to get top seven?
On current form there aren't any of the forthcoming fixtures detailed that I'd be confident of drawing let alone winning at the moment. I cannot understand why every other struggling club seems to be already buying players except us. It beggars belief as we must all be seeing the same terrible performances - and yes - I was also at West Brom on New Year's Day but it could have so easily gone the other way - as with Aston Villa and Newcastle at home. We're in big trouble as once the team spirit goes it's very difficult to get it back again...and where are those hoped for new midfielders...nothing. Surely it doesn't need to pan out this way? The Club's lack of urgency and inability to do any deals of any sort in the transfer market to date seems totally irresponsible given the potential real risk of relegation. There's an extremely depressing aura about the Club similar to the end of the Cookie era in feel although we've got a little more talent at the Club this time round...but you wouldn't have realised that on Saturday. Depressed? Yes; Angry? Very!
If ever there was a case for sticking with Jol,it's been made above
I´m sick & tired of all this Jol out stuff both on this MB & CC. Every damn thread is about Jol. We should be directing all our anger & questions to MAF & the Board.
I´m giong to give reading & posting on the forums a miss for a couple of weeks. I´m bored with it all.
Quote from: grandad on January 14, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
I´m sick & tired of all this Jol out stuff both on this MB & CC. Every damn thread is about Jol. We should be directing all our anger & questions to MAF & the Board.
I´m giong to give reading & posting on the forums a miss for a couple of rveweeks. I´m bored with it all.
Yes, that's a good strategy, taking MAF to task for dragging us from the fourth tier and subjecting us to the humiliation of watching Premier League football for ten years, and the disappointment of being beaten in a European Final.
Perhaps all we are doing is asking for an experienced manager to defend and preserve the status that MAF has provided the wherewithal to achieve......?
Quote from: ron on January 14, 2013, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: grandad on January 14, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
I´m sick & tired of all this Jol out stuff both on this MB & CC. Every damn thread is about Jol. We should be directing all our anger & questions to MAF & the Board.
I´m giong to give reading & posting on the forums a miss for a couple of rveweeks. I´m bored with it all.
Yes, that's a good strategy, taking MAF to task for dragging us from the fourth tier and subjecting us to the humiliation of watching Premier League football for ten years, and the disappointment of being beaten in a European Final.
Perhaps all we are doing is asking for an experienced manager to defend and preserve the status that MAF has provided the wherewithal to achieve......?
All, I think Grandad is saying, is that the board which is controlled by Mr Fayed need to open the purse strings if we want to stay in this league and even more so if we want to progress! Are you seriously trying to say that Jol isn't an experienced manager fp.gif
If you read my post, I am actually referring to Jol as the experienced manager............
.......Does that mean you've given up on him already, and are looking towards having the next one?
Quote from: ron on January 14, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
If you read my post, I am actually referring to Jol as the experienced manager............
.......Does that mean you've given up on him already, and are looking towards having the next one?
Blimey, you 'aving a Larf, read my posts, I'm sick to death of all these anti Jol posts! Ok, I apologise if I misinterpreted your post but it doesn't read that way until you point it out! To me we need to back Jol and the team all the way as we did under Hodgson and we will come through this patch - no worries.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on January 14, 2013, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: ron on January 14, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
If you read my post, I am actually referring to Jol as the experienced manager............
.......Does that mean you've given up on him already, and are looking towards having the next one?
Blimey, you 'aving a Larf, read my posts, I'm sick to death of all these anti Jol posts! Ok, I apologise if I misinterpreted your post but it doesn't read that way until you point it out! To me we need to back Jol and the team all the way as we did under Hodgson and we will come through this patch - no worries.
Dream on, we will not come out of this patch until, that clown has gone
Quote from: grandad on January 14, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
I´m sick & tired of all this Jol out stuff both on this MB & CC. Every damn thread is about Jol. We should be directing all our anger & questions to MAF & the Board.
I´m giong to give reading & posting on the forums a miss for a couple of weeks. I´m bored with it all.
+1
Also gonna whack a further 50 on us dropping
Quote from: epsomraver on January 14, 2013, 10:34:24 PM
that clown has gone
Sorry, but Fast Eddie left Fulham in 2011.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on January 14, 2013, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on January 14, 2013, 10:34:24 PM
that clown has gone
Sorry, but Fast Eddie left Fulham in 2011.
when the club finished the season in 8th place. I'll be thrilled with 15th this season.
Quote from: FulhamMic on January 14, 2013, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on January 14, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
Have you seen our upcoming fixtures FulhamMic?
Man City V Fulham 0pts
Fulham V West Ham 3pts
Fulham V Man Utd 1pts
Norwich V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Stoke 3pts
Sunderland V Fulham 1pts
Fulham V Chelsea 1pts
Tottenham V Fulham 0pts
I can't see us getting a great deal of points out of the next 8 games. Possibly against West Ham and Stoke, even Norwich and Sunderland away are possibilities, but I doubt very much that we'll get anything out of the rest, if we display the form that we have recently. I hope that I will be completely wrong about this, but I simply do not have the faith anymore.
Call me optimistic, but I see at least ten points here.
After 12 out of an easier 14 games???? No signs of improvement?