Any one no why he didnt come in the end?
Quote from: tonynorton on January 31, 2013, 11:36:46 PM
Any one no why he didnt come in the end?
didnt they massively up the price afetr everything was rubber stamped
Don't worry, I am sure we will be linked to him next summer. In all seriousness, who knows what really happens outside of those directly involved in the talks. If there really were talks that is.
Maybe we didn't ever want him
I would imagine it could have been the price, plus going off to the Africa Cup that put the tin lid on affairs
I'm just please we weren't linked with Paul Scharner again.
Boateng is too old and doesn't fit into this window's policy :wine: 075.gif
We didn't want him anyway
Got enough CDM's now but come next summer when some of the loaned players go back who haven't got options to buy in their deals, i'm sure his name will be circulated again.
Quote from: BarryP on January 31, 2013, 11:51:34 PM
Don't worry, I am sure we will be linked to him next summer. In all seriousness, who knows what really happens outside of those directly involved in the talks. If there really were talks that is.
Exactly, we have been linked to him every window over the last 5 or 6 and he has yet to make the move.
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on February 01, 2013, 12:04:49 AM
I'm just please we weren't linked with Paul Scharner again.
Or David Bentley. That made this a unique transfer period right there.
It was his choice, he chose to go and play in the African Nations cup instead of coming to Fulham. Common sense really, we weren't going to sign a player only to find he gets injured before he arrives at the club and doesn't play for the next 6 months
The last I read was that the clubs lawyers were looking in to his old clubs claim that he was still signed to them. If he is we cannot sign him if he isn't he will be a free agent. In any event I tend to the thought that the loan players we have signed rule us out of the need to sign him any way.
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We were linked to all the old rubbish we used to buy but we did not buy any of them, that is real progress. All these rumours are spread by agents or made up by the media. Look at Sky's coverage of the window they spent a lot of showing helicopters landing at Newcastle, kept showing an interview with Arry where you could not hear what he was saying and transfer boards for each club that had few of the players on it who got signed eventually. It is a non programme because their was so little activity and they did not have a clue what was going on.
Yes. It's amazing the amount of time and money wasted on this sort of garbage.
We ended up with four players predicted by....absolutely no one (at least not until the deals were almost done.)
Still. We never learn. I guess we will all be glued to our screens again in August.
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 01, 2013, 08:13:11 AM
We were linked to all the old rubbish we used to buy but we did not buy any of them, that is real progress. All these rumours are spread by agents or made up by the media. Look at Sky's coverage of the window they spent a lot of showing helicopters landing at Newcastle, kept showing an interview with Arry where you could not hear what he was saying and transfer boards for each club that had few of the players on it who got signed eventually. It is a non programme because their was so little activity and they did not have a clue what was going on.
It is, indeed, progress NOT to actually buy any player. After all, nothing is more efficient than securing the services of a player for four months -- two of which will be spent getting the player up to full Premier League fitness.
Quote from: HatterDon on February 01, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 01, 2013, 08:13:11 AM
We were linked to all the old rubbish we used to buy but we did not buy any of them, that is real progress. All these rumours are spread by agents or made up by the media. Look at Sky's coverage of the window they spent a lot of showing helicopters landing at Newcastle, kept showing an interview with Arry where you could not hear what he was saying and transfer boards for each club that had few of the players on it who got signed eventually. It is a non programme because their was so little activity and they did not have a clue what was going on.
It is, indeed, progress NOT to actually buy any player. After all, nothing is more efficient than securing the services of a player for four months -- two of which will be spent getting the player up to full Premier League fitness.
Are you seriously still not happy, even slightly? Would you prefer us do like the ha ha's? If so, I fear you will never be happy until they sack Jol which is a real shame, and I hope Jol can prove all the doubters wrong. I don't think we could have done much more in this window and I, for one, am reasonably happy.
We're completely out of the loop as to what we might have done in the window.
I'd love to know who we most wanted and why we didn't get them simply for knowledge and not as a stick to beat the Board or Jol.
What seems to me to have happened is that at the last moment Jol managed to bring on board a few players that he had previously managed through agents that he knew. Now that's to his credit of course if they turn out to be assets but it doesn't look likely to me that these are the guys we were hoping to get a month ago.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on February 01, 2013, 01:19:39 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on February 01, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on February 01, 2013, 08:13:11 AM
We were linked to all the old rubbish we used to buy but we did not buy any of them, that is real progress. All these rumours are spread by agents or made up by the media. Look at Sky's coverage of the window they spent a lot of showing helicopters landing at Newcastle, kept showing an interview with Arry where you could not hear what he was saying and transfer boards for each club that had few of the players on it who got signed eventually. It is a non programme because their was so little activity and they did not have a clue what was going on.
It is, indeed, progress NOT to actually buy any player. After all, nothing is more efficient than securing the services of a player for four months -- two of which will be spent getting the player up to full Premier League fitness.
Are you seriously still not happy, even slightly? Would you prefer us do like the ha ha's? If so, I fear you will never be happy until they sack Jol which is a real shame, and I hope Jol can prove all the doubters wrong. I don't
think we could have done much more in this window and I, for one, am reasonably happy.
1. I didn't say anything about Jol. I don't think Jol makes transfer POLICY.
2. There is a middle ground between spending NOTHING and bankrupting your club. It's a shame that your reaction to a statement you disagree with always seems to be that the ONLY alternative is lunacy.
3. I like the players we have loaned in. I like that fact that, in four or five weeks they'll be fit enough to play 90 minutes in the Prem. I DON'T like that the best we'll get out of them is two or three months.
4. I don't like the fact that signing players for the short term or getting them on loan means that we get no compensation when they go. We could have gotten a few bob for Pog, and we could get a fat bundle for Riether.
5. I don't agree with the assumption that a player will decide to make his loan deal permanent. Let's say this is what happens with Riether. After the season he's had with us, he'll cost us two to three times more to sign this summer than he might have last summer. Frankly, he's been so good for us, we probably can't afford him any more.
6. One of the things about BUYING players is that you can subsequently SELL them and actually bring in money to use for, you know, upgrading your squad.
7. You didn't make this point, but others have said, "Yes, but look at all the talent we have coming up through the ranks" -- mentioning a half dozen players all of whom we've been told over and over are no better than League 1 talent.
Last year, the year before, and the year before that, it was possible in early February to look at our squad and say "We'll be a solid mid-table club next season with one or two good transfers in this summer. With the very real possibility of losing 14 players at the end of the season, it's impossible to guess where we'll finish or who'll be turning out for us next season.
So, yes, while I like the players, I'm unhappy. From last January to this February -- three transfer periods -- we have shown that our team policy is to replenish the squad on a short term basis rather than building future stability.
With regard to point 5 I'd assume that an option to buy involves an agreed price. If not it's meaningless.
Probably all that's necessary is for us to exercise the option and pay the price. Same applies to the players' contract.
I could of course be wrong but if the correct terminology is being used then that should be the effect.
5. I don't agree with the assumption that a player will decide to make his loan deal permanent. Let's say this is what happens with Riether. After the season he's had with us, he'll cost us two to three times more to sign this summer than he might have last summer. Frankly, he's been so good for us, we probably can't afford him any more.
I agree but there's the other side of the coin: If we bought these players rather than on loan and they didn't make it here, then we would have wasted money.
6. One of the things about BUYING players is that you can subsequently SELL them and actually bring in money to use for, you know, upgrading your squad.
Agree but again as per 5 - what if we paid for a dud - their sell on fee would be substantially lower and again a loss of money rather than being careful/testing the water? Don't forget it appears that Jan is a very difficult window where you have to pay well over the odds, evidently.