This is the 2nd thread I'm starting about him but I'd really like to hear your oppinions, guys?
I tought he was very solid today. It's his first PL game so it's normal that he didn't rush too much in attack.. But in defense he was solid and kept Norwich wingers pretty quiet..
Also he did 2 fouls (one of them got him yellow) in the dying minutes that stopped really dangerous looking Norwich counters!
Pretty positive display for me, he seems hungry for football!
You toughts?
I expected a bit more from him. He made 1-2 mistakes which Riether would not have made. And he's usually more dangerous when attacking.
But then of course, this is his first match not only for Fulham but also for PL, like you mentioned.
By the way, Manolev was given 3.5 stars by goal.com:
http://www.goal.com/en-us/match/81093/norwich-city-vs-fulham/player-ratings (http://www.goal.com/en-us/match/81093/norwich-city-vs-fulham/player-ratings)
No one got more than that in this match. :048:
i thought for a first game in the premiership away from home, he done a pretty good job.
I thought he played well. He is certainly better than Riise so perhaps when Reither comes back, Jol should try Manolev at LB.
Yes good idea to play a right back at left, we have enough problems already
Quote from: Fulham_Surrey on February 09, 2013, 06:34:49 PM
I thought he played well. He is certainly better than Riise so perhaps when Reither comes back, Jol should try Manolev at LB.
I thought Riise had a good game
Quote from: epsomraver on February 09, 2013, 06:36:06 PM
Yes good idea to play a right back at left, we have enough problems already
Not such an odd thing to do, Liverpool have played Glen Johnson at left back and he's done OK for them.
Looked solid. Much better than the miserable posters led us to believe when he first signed. A good start.
I didn't get a chance to watch the game today, but will watch our extended highlights on Sky later, if only to see how the lad did. I agree with ATTM, the doom and gloom merchants weren't thrilled, so it's good to see him get off to a clean sheet.
Impressed me today when I was worried about him, hope he keeps playing well and can maybe push Riether for that right back spot. Hopefully a bit of competition will make Riether play even better ;)
His yellow was a very necessary one to take in the 86th minute and a highlight to securing out draw I thought. Not bad.
he did ok but lacked getting balls into the box. i hope we sign reither
he will be an okay back up.
Done reasonably, switched off a few times early on but it's hard coming in for a right back who has been immense and praised by many in the week
He did fine, but let's be honest, it really doesn't matter because the bottom line is that Riether has been Fulham's best player and Manolev has little to no chance of benching him.
I felt he did fine. Especially given this was his first start. No worse than Kelly ever was. Made a few key clearances in our own box and closed down Becchio well to stop him getting a header on target.
Apparently didn't even know he was going to play until mid- morning and a hasty taxi ride from London. So in the circumstances sounds like he did remarkably well. That's why you need squad players. They can't all be stars, but just need to be solid.
Not forgetting that Reither can also play midfield rather well. So there may be times when both could play
http://hammyend.com/index.php/2013/02/taxi-for-manolev-how-a-cab-ride-led-to-defenders-fulham-debut/ (http://hammyend.com/index.php/2013/02/taxi-for-manolev-how-a-cab-ride-led-to-defenders-fulham-debut/)
^ this.
And also don't forget Manolev can also play in Midfield.. I hope we'll be seing a lot of him and I hope he keeps it up! :54:
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
think he will get better when he gets more confident and adjusted. Signs he could be good, just needs to get forward like riether and im sold.
Didn't see the match but good to hear some positives about a squad player.
The predictable negative ther as usual
He was never going to be better than Riether as Riether is top class, but Manolev done well, It's good for us to know that if Riether is ever missing Manolev can step up and do a good job
I like having a player called "Man Love", so many jokes were made
What I wondered is, how come if both Reither and Baird got the lurgy on Friday afternoon how come Manilov travelled on his own in the taxi ??? Were we one short
Quote from: King_Crud on February 10, 2013, 11:16:35 AM
I like having a player called "Man Love", so many jokes were made
I know what you mean, when I see his name I think of Man Love as well. Bit like our new guy Hardik at work, makes me giggle everytime we get a global email from him.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
Wow you're a bore aren't you?
Can always trust someone to get in a dig about a player who's played less than one game and the manager when the thread is totally unrelated.
For what it's worth, I thought frimpong did well too. He clearly needs fitness but made his presence known, which is always a good thing
If you ask me.
Yeah I think we have to cut a bit of slack on the new guys, bit unfair otherwise
If he proves to be good for us, there is a ready made song
One Love Bob Marley official video (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY8H7zjdtc#)
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
Wow you're a bore aren't you?
Can always trust someone to get in a dig about a player who's played less than one game and the manager when the thread is totally unrelated.
For what it's worth, I thought frimpong did well too. He clearly needs fitness but made his presence known, which is always a good thing
If you ask me.
So you ignore the positive part of the post about the player the thread is about and turn on the comparison. What a sad bore you are. Always trust some people to want to cause problems where none exist. Silly sad person.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 10, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
Wow you're a bore aren't you?
Can always trust someone to get in a dig about a player who's played less than one game and the manager when the thread is totally unrelated.
For what it's worth, I thought frimpong did well too. He clearly needs fitness but made his presence known, which is always a good thing
If you ask me.
So you ignore the positive part of the post about the player the thread is about and turn on the comparison. What a sad bore you are. Always trust some people to want to cause problems where none exist. Silly sad person.
My point was why is a comparison (an a negative one where it isn't needed) to frimpong, a central midfielder who played well, at all relevant?
Know it's only one game, but if Manolev is A crap player to PSV, then we should be shopping there more often.
Great cover for Reither, from what I've seen so far.
I understand he plays on both sides, so when match fit a replacement for Riisa ............................hopefully
The new guys did well, and that pleases me. Just one caveat, norwich frankly were poor. Lets see how the new guys perform against better opposition.
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 10, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
Wow you're a bore aren't you?
Can always trust someone to get in a dig about a player who's played less than one game and the manager when the thread is totally unrelated.
For what it's worth, I thought frimpong did well too. He clearly needs fitness but made his presence known, which is always a good thing
If you ask me.
So you ignore the positive part of the post about the player the thread is about and turn on the comparison. What a sad bore you are. Always trust some people to want to cause problems where none exist. Silly sad person.
My point was why is a comparison (an a negative one where it isn't needed) to frimpong, a central midfielder who played well, at all relevant?
As both players were making their debut it was indeed relevant. In your opinion and others Frimpong played well. In mine and others he didn't. Now stop being a WUM.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 10, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 10, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 10, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
Wow you're a bore aren't you?
Can always trust someone to get in a dig about a player who's played less than one game and the manager when the thread is totally unrelated.
For what it's worth, I thought frimpong did well too. He clearly needs fitness but made his presence known, which is always a good thing
If you ask me.
So you ignore the positive part of the post about the player the thread is about and turn on the comparison. What a sad bore you are. Always trust some people to want to cause problems where none exist. Silly sad person.
My point was why is a comparison (an a negative one where it isn't needed) to frimpong, a central midfielder who played well, at all relevant?
As both players were making their debut it was indeed relevant. In your opinion and others Frimpong played well. In mine and others he didn't. Now stop being a WUM.
A WUM because I don't want to look for the bad side in every situation? Ok then.
I think a better way of comparing our player who played well is by saying how quiet their left flank was rather than how slow one of the other players in white was.
But I'm only a wum.
Lets put those handbags down please chaps...
You're both entitled to your opinions, and are indeed free to express them, although please do so without the name-calling.
Thanks
Burt
Quote from: Burt on February 10, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Lets put those handbags down please chaps...
You're both entitled to your opinions, and are indeed free to express them, although please do so without the name-calling.
Thanks
Burt
Of course. I'm done on the matter :scarf:
Quote from: KCat on February 10, 2013, 11:45:09 AM
What I wondered is, how come if both Reither and Baird got the lurgy on Friday afternoon how come Manilov travelled on his own in the taxi ??? Were we one short
I assume the team went up the night before or they became sick on the coach on the day, whatever the circumstances he did well as he will not have practised with the first team squad for the match.
I thought Manolev played pretty well, especially given that (per Jol's post-match interview) it was a last-minute change due to Riether's illness. That being said, Riise has been playing well since his benching over the holidays and I don't see any reason to drop him for a right-sided player if his form keeps being good.
Manolev did pretty well. Only few mistakes but showed potential, also going forward. If that's the worst right back I will take it any day.
Considering he came with the glowing reference if 'the worst RB in Holland" I was impressed with him.
Riether is obviously top drawer but Manolev is a good back up on that display.
Manolev was very impressive certainly better than Kelly unfortunately for him he has Riether infront of him who in my opinion is in the top 5 right backs in the league
Quote from: leonffc on February 10, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
Considering he came with the glowing reference if 'the worst RB in Holland" I was impressed with him.
Riether is obviously top drawer but Manolev is a good back up on that display.
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 10, 2013, 05:13:58 PM
Manolev was very impressive certainly better than Kelly unfortunately for him he has Riether infront of him who in my opinion is in the top 5 right backs in the league
Agree with both of these, and as for Frimpong - I thought he didn't do as bad as some have said, perhaps just a different perspective, but I liked what I saw in both of them.
Oh, and as for the name, I'm gonna call him Stan, just to avoid the obvious.
Thought he did very well, and in the circumstances it happened aswell, a very decent effort from him. Looked stable and confident, and ended up doing most of the running down the wing in the absence of Ruiz.
Quote from: Burt on February 10, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Lets put those handbags down please chaps...
You're both entitled to your opinions, and are indeed free to express them, although please do so without the name-calling.
Thanks
Burt
I think the moderators need to think about situations like the above between Lighthouse and PokerMatt. I am with PokerMatt in that threads should stick to the topic and not be used by posters to repeat over and over again their particular digs at a certain player or the manager as Lighthouse does and tomcolmanfry has done against Ruiz.
If posters want to make purely negative remarks about a player then they should use or start a thread on that player, not pollute threads on other players or subjects with their obsessional views.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on February 10, 2013, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: Burt on February 10, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Lets put those handbags down please chaps...
You're both entitled to your opinions, and are indeed free to express them, although please do so without the name-calling.
Thanks
Burt
I think the moderators need to think about situations like the above between Lighthouse and PokerMatt. I am with PokerMatt in that threads should stick to the topic and not be used by posters to repeat over and over again their particular digs at a certain player or the manager as Lighthouse does and tomcolmanfry has done against Ruiz.
If posters want to make purely negative remarks about a player then they should use or start a thread on that player, not pollute threads on other players or subjects with their obsessional views.
The thread topic was about a player making his debut. I said compared to the other player making his debut he did well. Mind you the player who I thought didn't do as well was the sort of player Jol liked. Now there were plenty of other threads today that could be called negative. Some I agree with and some I didn't. Now on this thread I was called a 'bore' for my view. I defended myself.
Do you really want the Mods to get involved with this. Now you use the word 'obsessional' and 'pollute'. These I would suggest are slightly negative words. I don't see you on other threads wanting the Mods to get involved. Are we to be moderated now on our correct thread application to a thread title.
PokerMatt and I had a disagreement. A Mod gave a slight warning. Yet you wish the Mods to now stop threads being polluted with views you consider negative, But only some as you make no comment anywhere else. I enjoy FOF but really it is being polluted by a few who consider any comment but happy positive views a pollution. How bizarre.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
In the short time since I came to this forum, your moniker has been synonymous with criticism of Jol. That's your prerogative, of course. But, given the manner of the wording and your track record, it's not difficult to see that the opportunity to have another dig at Jol is what underpins your contribution.
More navel gazing.
Nothing wrong with people expressing views. Those of us who are considered bores simply shouldn't be read by those who are disinterested.
We all know the regulars' general views and if regulars constantly say the same thing then most others will switch off.
The moderators will normally stamp on those who are abusive or intolerant of others.
Quote from: Arthur on February 11, 2013, 02:28:31 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
In the short time since I came to this forum, your moniker has been synonymous with criticism of Jol. That's your prerogative, of course. But, given the manner of the wording and your track record, it's not difficult to see that the opportunity to have another dig at Jol is what underpins your contribution.
To misquote Apprentice to the Maestro - I think the moderators need to think about situations like the ones above. Thread should stick to the topic and not be used by posters to repeat over and over again their particular digs at a certain poster. If posters want to make purely negative remarks against a poster they should start a new thread and not pollute threads on players or subjects with their obsessional views.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 11, 2013, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Arthur on February 11, 2013, 02:28:31 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 09, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Well his hurried introduction rather proves how good he is. Let us compare him to Frimpong for instance who looked off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes. But Manolev looked very compact and with it. Stuck to his job well.
In the short time since I came to this forum, your moniker has been synonymous with criticism of Jol. That's your prerogative, of course. But, given the manner of the wording and your track record, it's not difficult to see that the opportunity to have another dig at Jol is what underpins your contribution.
To misquote Apprentice to the Maestro - I think the moderators need to think about situations like the ones above. Thread should stick to the topic and not be used by posters to repeat over and over again their particular digs at a certain poster. If posters want to make purely negative remarks against a poster they should start a new thread and not pollute threads on players or subjects with their obsessional views.
I think it is perfectly correct to ask you to justify the comments you frequently make when posting on this board.
There is nothing wrong with reasoned debate or personal comment but I cannot see any evidence for your statement
"off the pace and a bit slow. Just the sort of player Jol likes.". That might be your opinion and you are of course entitled to it but I would be sure that you do not know it for the fact that you make it out to be. Of course I may be wrong and you have bugged the Motspur Park cat in which case please let us know the source of this font of information you have. I suspect not though and that this is in fact a continuation of the diatribe you spout against the players at and management of our club on this board.
FFS this isn't a legal forum or courtroom.
Let people state an opinion however they like and then agree, disagree or ignore.
Assume that most of us are simply opinionated Fulham supporters expressing honest opinions.
Of course we don't KNOW what Jol is thinking or planning or what is said in private meetings.
I'm going to lock this thread now and the Moderators will consider all suggestions put forward.
...based on Tony Gilroy's pertinent point it seems appropriate to shut this sideswipe tennis match down.
A message board that only has one point of view - i.e. one that the reader agrees with will be a very boring place. Obsessions with facts and data and opinions goes both ways...