They've fired McDermott:
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/8557632/reading-sack-brian-mcdermott (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/2/8557632/reading-sack-brian-mcdermott)
Will that change their fortunes, I wonder ...
had to do something i guess... McDermott is a nice guy which is too bad.
Brian McDermott departs Reading
Finally came ... perhaps still in the job so long out of loyalty by the Russian president ... but was it too late to save the Royals? What's your opinion on a change of manager at the taoil end of the season?
Quotes/Opinions from the Media:
Inside Football
It remains to be seen who Reading will bring in, but the new manager will have precious little time to guide the Royals to safety
Irish Examiner
He guided Reading back to the top flight last season for only the second time in their history but has been relieved of his duties as the club look to turn around their form in time to secure Premier League survival.
San Francisco Chronicle
McDermott had been in charge since 2009 and took Reading back into the Premier League. Reading says "in our current situation, owner Anton Zingarevich felt that a change was necessary."
Daily Express
The managerial merry-go round had already already seen casualties this season in the Premier League with Mark Hughes, Roberto Di Matteo and Nigel Adkins being given the chop. And McDermott, who for some have felt the writing has been on the wall for him, was given his P45 after a poor sequence of results.
Reading Evening Post
Brian McDermott has been sacked by Reading FC with Alan Curbishley the bookmakers' favourite to replace him.
Joe.ie
The powers that be at Reading have decided that they need a new man to help them beat the drop after parting company with Brian McDermott today. McDermott wasn't known to be in danger of losing his job with the Royals, but speculation about his future at the club began to increase earlier today when the odds of him losing his job plummeted and betting was eventually suspended as his fate became clear.
The Independent
The decision, with just nine games of the season remaining, will come as a surprise. Despite Reading's difficulty on the pitch following their return to the Premier League there has been a well publicised good team-spirit at the club. And with so few games of the season remaining, any incoming manager will struggle to make a swift enough impact.
Roberto De Matteo....if they can get him....
Paolo Di Canio apparently was there on Saturday. Curbishley probably in the frame as well.
Quote from: Patrick on March 11, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
Roberto De Matteo....if they can get him....
controversial figure, quite a lot of opposition to him coming on our forum at moment...
Is saving Reading from relegation too 'ambitious' a project for Leslie?
Mark Hughes will end up at Reading
It will just be one of the useless unemployed managers about now. Mind you McDermott never look or sounded like a manager. He looked more like a middle ranking civil servant with a dreary wife.
Quote from: A Humble Man on March 11, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
It will just be one of the useless unemployed managers about now. Mind you McDermott never look or sounded like a manager. He looked more like a middle ranking civil servant with a dreary wife.
It was a 'desperado' move, but Zingarevich had a five year plan. Probably sounds crazy to an established team like yourselves, but included increasing the stadium from 24,160 to 38,000, a new training ground + match pitch for reserves/academy, and being on the fringes on Europe in 5 years. I don't think relegation at all entered his equations, and I believe he is secretly now wishing he made this move earlier. Yet Brian IS much loved, so it was very delicate all the way.
Quote from: daib0 on March 11, 2013, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: A Humble Man on March 11, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
It will just be one of the useless unemployed managers about now. Mind you McDermott never look or sounded like a manager. He looked more like a middle ranking civil servant with a dreary wife.
It was a 'desperado' move, but Zingarevich had a five year plan. Probably sounds crazy to an established team like yourselves, but included increasing the stadium from 24,160 to 38,000, a new training ground + match pitch for reserves/academy, and being on the fringes on Europe in 5 years. I don't think relegation at all entered his equations, and I believe he is secretly now wishing he made this move earlier. Yet Brian IS much loved, so it was very delicate all the way.
Daib0, do you think it will make a difference? Can you see Reading getting out of the current pickle? Who do you want as manager and can they make a difference at this stage in the season?
My West Ham work colleague is hoping they get Di Canio instead of Sam.
It's Di Canio or Adkins from the Royals fans tonight, but personally Di Canio scares me a bit ..
scary? ever since he pushed that ref over. 064.gif
We got rid of Tigana with a few games left (was it 3?) and Coleman with 5 and stayed up both times, although I don't think we were actually in the relegation zone at the time of either sacking. Sometimes, the chairman just has to feel like he is doing something.
This followed hard on the heels of him winning the Premier League Manager of the month award for January.
Got to feel sorry for him. But I guess when you are losing against the teams around you (Wigan, Villa) then something has to give.
Dangerous move, doing it so close to season's end though.
They spent very little last summer. That might have had something to do with it...
Basically ... it was definitely on the cards early December, then for some strange reason we went on a run, now we see it was a 'lucky fluky run', but that covered our eyes up to the naked truth. Now last four of five games it's gone wrong, and heck we realize that there are less than a dozen games left! Panic button it was ..
daib0
Back in the late 1920s and early 1930s my grandfather used to be the Chairman of Reading, so they've always been my second team. I hope it works out, though it looks doubtful.
I would go for Adkins very time over DC - and indeed over any other currently unemployed manager of whom I can think. He strikes me as having as good a chance as any of keeping you up, because he is a motivator and at this stage that is principally what is needed. And if you go down he has a very good chance of getting you back up as he knows what is required. (In fact, if Jol goes at the end of the season, as I very much hope, Adkins would be second only to Danny Murphy as my choice to replace him, so maybe on reflection I hope you appoint DC!)
I'm glad Fulham don't have a Russian owner!
Was the Reading owner Russian? He waited until almost the end of the season. I'll get my coat.
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!? Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Didn't Coleman teach us anything? A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager. The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO. Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch. That's probably only 15% of the job. Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman.
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!? Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Didn't Coleman teach us anything? A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager. The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO. Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch. That's probably only 15% of the job. Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman.
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo
Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!
Quote from: HatterDon on March 12, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!? Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Didn't Coleman teach us anything? A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager. The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO. Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch. That's probably only 15% of the job. Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman.
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo
Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!
He did not get us relegated true but he also got us know where and started with a quality squad and ended with a mediocre one. Tigana put us on a road of progress to being a very good team, Coleman stalled that for 4 years.
Quote from: A Humble Man on March 12, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on March 12, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!? Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Didn't Coleman teach us anything? A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager. The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO. Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch. That's probably only 15% of the job. Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman.
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo
Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!
He did not get us relegated true but he also got us know where and started with a quality squad and ended with a mediocre one. Tigana put us on a road of progress to being a very good team, Coleman stalled that for 4 years.
...and remind me - how much did Coleman get to spend after we sold off Van Der Sar and Saha? Coleman was given a minute amount to spend each transfer window and so all he could get was basic squad players and end of career signings. When Saha and VDS were in the team we did pretty good in the league and had he had the money to strengthen the squad further with quality players who knows what could have been achieved.
I'm not saying Coleman was a perfect manager, nor even a tactical genius, and I know he had his run in's with Steed and basically booted Lee Clark out but I think he has been much maligned for things that were beyond his control...
Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.
Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
:plus one:
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.
Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
Quote from: domprague on March 12, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
They spent very little last summer. That might have had something to do with it...
I'm not sure what the plan is at Reading, the mega bucks Russian owner arrived in town with his beautiful wife & looked set to lavish millions on his team. What followed, the Pog & Stephen Kelly but no idea who else. Relegation will put the mockers on any 5 year plan.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.
Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people
Quote from: Berserker on March 12, 2013, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.
Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people
Could you have repressed racialist tendancies? A lot of East Enders do.
Quote from: Oakeshott on March 12, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
daib0
Back in the late 1920s and early 1930s my grandfather used to be the Chairman of Reading, so they've always been my second team. I hope it works out, though it looks doubtful.
I would go for Adkins very time over DC - and indeed over any other currently unemployed manager of whom I can think. He strikes me as having as good a chance as any of keeping you up, because he is a motivator and at this stage that is principally what is needed. And if you go down he has a very good chance of getting you back up as he knows what is required. (In fact, if Jol goes at the end of the season, as I very much hope, Adkins would be second only to Danny Murphy as my choice to replace him, so maybe on reflection I hope you appoint DC!)
I'm glad Fulham don't have a Russian owner!
Amazing!! Have you got any dates or anecdotes from the 1920s? The documentary and historical side is very important on our forum!!
Well Di Cannio's racist tendancies aren't particularly repressed, which is why a lot of people don't like him I guess.
Saying that, the entertainment value that he would bring to any other Premier League club would be worth it's weight in gold. Not for us though, thank you!
Well, Di Canio has said he is a Fascist and gave the Fascist salute while playing for Lazio, a club plagued by racist hooligans.
Besides, it may be that people dislike him because he's a ******** not because he's Italian.
Quote from: A Humble Man on March 13, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: Berserker on March 12, 2013, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM
Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.
Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people
Could you have repressed racialist tendancies? A lot of East Enders do.