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Title: Full Game Parma
Post by: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 02:16:39 PM
Fulham - Parma 1-2 la partita integrale 10/08/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NYyXSSgugc#ws)
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: FTID on August 12, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
1:11:30 is where Karagounis has the scrap with their no. 10, and he slaps Georgey boy in the face
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Lighthouse on August 12, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
Quote from: FTID on August 12, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
1:11:30 is where Karagounis has the scrap with their no. 10, and he slaps Georgey boy in the face

Rodders doing a good job and pushing Kara away.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Northern Cottager on August 12, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: FTID on August 12, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
1:11:30 is where Karagounis has the scrap with their no. 10, and he slaps Georgey boy in the face

Look's like hes dying with the dramatic roll...only to realise he'd rather scrap and pounce back up. Play acting at its best.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Ruiz11 on August 12, 2013, 05:13:54 PM
What a goal by Sidwell, I think we know who's won goal of the season already. Otherwise a mediocre performance typified by our persistent inability to create chances and defend crosses. Richardson was excellent, everyone else average at best. Boateng gave the ball away too often and Stekelenburg took a few too many risks with his kicking, one of which almost resulted in a goal to Parma.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Rudolph on August 12, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
Poor defending for their winner.  Wouldn't have happened on big Phil's watch.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: NadsFromMauritius on August 12, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
Thanks for the link. :)
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: NadsFromMauritius on August 12, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
Thanks for the link. :)
no problem
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 12, 2013, 06:37:41 PM
Just seen this, another largely boring performance. Sidwell had a few moments of class and Taarabt looked great, Richardson was decent but that's it. I feel that the formation is a big problem, we effectively play 4-5-1 most of the time, Ruiz drops so deep he's in line with the central midfield and he rarely makes forward runs, this is a complete waste of his talents.
He needs to play further forward, try to get some goals and assists. We need more off the ball movement.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: zschwartz on August 12, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Wow, bravo to parma for providing the match. Did not expect to see this. i'm very pleased.

The Betis game aside, we've had plenty of opportunities to view the team during the off-season (thanks to the costa rican networks streaming and the media generosity of competing clubs).

it will be interesting to see how tottenham makes use of all this free scouting access so early in the transfer window.

Misery aside, ruiz picking out mesca at 0:18:00 along with na banga's first touch was really a thing of beauty. Obviously end-product on the cross/shot with the young man are the main concerns... but he appears to have everything up to that point. Also continue to be impressed by Boateng's reading of the game.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: RidgeRider on August 12, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: NadsFromMauritius on August 12, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
Thanks for the link. :)
no problem

I haven't watched it yet but thank you very much for posting it.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on August 12, 2013, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: NadsFromMauritius on August 12, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
Thanks for the link. :)
no problem

I haven't watched it yet but thank you very much for posting it.
pleasure, i found it by chance as well. watching it at the moment.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Sheepskin Junior on August 12, 2013, 08:20:21 PM
Do do do, G1nger Iniesta
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: farfouille on August 12, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Thanks for the link, Zu-Meister.

My humble analysis:
Steks is still adapting, he concedes goals that Schwarzer would never concede, but I hope he will improve.
The defense... Well, I hope Amorebieta will make it better. Richardson did OK though.
Sidwell did make a good match, I have to admit it, he was all over the pitch. Looks like Jol likes him, I am afraid he will be in the starting line up for a looooong time.
Boateng was excellent. Can't believe Jol signed him on a free transfer...
Dejagah was awful, probably because he's not fully fit.
Ruiz - invisible most of the time, a bit slow and hesitant on the ball, made some bad decisions even when attacking through the middle. I am not sure what we should do with him...
Rodallega - invisible and useless. If someone offered me 2,500,000 for him, I would just scream "Where do I sign? Pen!! Where is the ^@#m% pen?!" I would prefer to see Trotta, or even kids like Woodrow and Tankovic.
Mesca - showed some pace but I prefer Taraabt (first choice) and Kaca (second choice) there.
Berbatov - the usual flicks and passes. Would like to see how he would link with Taarabt.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: farfouille on August 12, 2013, 09:17:18 PM
Thanks for the link, Zu-Meister.

My humble analysis:
Steks is still adapting, he concedes goals that Schwarzer would never concede, but I hope he will improve.
The defense... Well, I hope Amorebieta will make it better. Richardson did OK though.
Sidwell did make a good match, I have to admit it, he was all over the pitch. Looks like Jol likes him, I am afraid he will be in the starting line up for a looooong time.
Boateng was excellent. Can't believe Jol signed him on a free transfer...
Dejagah was awful, probably because he's not fully fit.
Ruiz - invisible most of the time, a bit slow and hesitant on the ball, made some bad decisions even when attacking through the middle. I am not sure what we should do with him...
Rodallega - invisible and useless. If someone offered me 2,500,000 for him, I would just scream "Where do I sign? Pen!! Where is the ^@#m% pen?!" I would prefer to see Trotta, or even kids like Woodrow and Tankovic.
Mesca - showed some pace but I prefer Taraabt (first choice) and Kaca (second choice) there.
Berbatov - the usual flicks and passes. Would like to see how he would link with Taarabt.
no problem.
re your analysis: i think sidwell is in the team onl because we have no one better, jol knows that and is trying to sign someone, if not a couple of midfielders. dejagah is a key player, and im sure he will be fine when its a competitive game. ruiz......is just not suited to us. malaga are in for rodallega apparently. im hoping for taarabt playing behind berba, kaca out wide.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: filham on August 12, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Oh dear so little penetration  with hardly a threat on goal.

Makes you think that perhaps we should ship in Sam Allardyce along with a big target man to give us an injection of route one football . OK it would not be pretty but it would be more exciting.

Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Zu-Meister on August 12, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: filham on August 12, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Oh dear so little penetration  with hardly a threat on goal.

Makes you think that perhaps we should ship in Sam Allardyce along with a big target man to give us an injection of route one football . OK it would not be pretty but it would be more exciting.

Thanks for the link.
no problem. yeah, not sure about sam 'i can manage madrid' allerdyce, but you are right, we dont create much at all. and i think its coz ruiz is just not suitable. he loses the ball in tight situations half the time. and then takes too long to make the pass. we need taarabt in there behind berba.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: ffcbulgaria on August 12, 2013, 11:30:50 PM
seriously, Parma have the whole game on video with a nice close up and good quality and we've put up highlights from a camera located on the other side of The Thames?
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: farfouille on August 12, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
 064.gif

True story!  fp.gif
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: TheManOnTheBus on August 13, 2013, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: ffcbulgaria on August 12, 2013, 11:30:50 PM
seriously, Parma have the whole game on video with a nice close up and good quality and we've put up highlights from a camera located on the other side of The Thames?

Yep - I thought the same when I checked the Offal. Proper commentator as well. Couldn't we have bought the footage off them? They obviously brought their own cameras and crew, but surely they wouldn't have charged much more than a 1000 lire for the rights to use some of it. 
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Bryanthebroom on August 13, 2013, 09:37:13 AM
Our passing game looks great at times, just no penetration; nobody making runs from midfield so the ball just goes back to our defence all the time.

Ruiz is a great playmaker but tends to stop and admire his passes rather than busting a gut to get into the box to receive the one-two.

Berbs tries when he's already up front but in practically every move we make he's involved in the build up, so he's in left midfield or on the half way line when the ball finally gets crossed into the box.

Maybe we need a midfielder who'll make runs from deep? Because maybe in only one or two occasions in that game did we have two or three players in the opposition box when the ball found its way into there.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
Quote from: filham on August 12, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Oh dear so little penetration  with hardly a threat on goal.

That's what she said.  :005:
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: OdecaMynoT on August 13, 2013, 01:59:08 PM
No violets there then.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 13, 2013, 02:29:02 PM
Quote from: Bryanthebroom on August 13, 2013, 09:37:13 AM
Our passing game looks great at times, just no penetration; nobody making runs from midfield so the ball just goes back to our defence all the time.

Ruiz is a great playmaker but tends to stop and admire his passes rather than busting a gut to get into the box to receive the one-two.

Berbs tries when he's already up front but in practically every move we make he's involved in the build up, so he's in left midfield or on the half way line when the ball finally gets crossed into the box.

Maybe we need a midfielder who'll make runs from deep? Because maybe in only one or two occasions in that game did we have two or three players in the opposition box when the ball found its way into there.

Ideally we would have players making runs from deep but given we don't and Ruiz is a good finisher we should just push him further forward.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 13, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
Quote from: ffcbulgaria on August 12, 2013, 11:30:50 PM
seriously, Parma have the whole game on video with a nice close up and good quality and we've put up highlights from a camera located on the other side of The Thames?

It's embarrassing. We're a PL club for goodness sake.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: epsomraver on August 13, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
having sat through 90 minutes of it perhaps the club thought 4 minutes of highlights would be enough for the fans to relive
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on August 13, 2013, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on August 13, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
having sat through 90 minutes of it perhaps the club thought 4 minutes of highlights would be enough for the fans to relive

Now that was funny. A bit sad, but funny.
Title: Re: Full Game Parma
Post by: Fulham1959 on August 13, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
For Parma's first goal, there was no alertness and no urgency in Stek's positioning .  He ambled to the near post, probably thinking the ball was going out, and then was caught completely by surprise with the cross.

I only hope that his attitude in competitive matches will show a much greater intensity.