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Title: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hello everyone.

First of all, good luck for the new season (after Saturday, obviously).

What are your hopes for the season and how do you see Saturday's game panning out.

Also, anyone on here heading up. You can always get a few pints in a safe environment at our place.

Cheers
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Lighthouse on August 16, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
We hope that a few more transfers (like yourself) may help what is an ok squad that can do with a few improvents. After last season and the upheavel of a new owner we are looking for a more comfortable season than last year without setting the Prem on fire. The club say top 12. The fans would like a top half finish at least.

The game Saturday means we are away and we don't do very well going forward away from home. Can't see Fulham having enough chances to win. A draw at best but sadly more likely a Sunderland win. But if things click for us who knows?

Fulham a team in transition -  again.

Good luck to Sunderland.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 10:05:46 AM
Thanks - tbh, most teams outside the top 6 are in almost constant transition as the desperation to stay in the league takes over any longer term thinking possibilities.

But - it makes it interesting and much better than being a top 4 bandwaggoner.

We have no real idea what to expect this season. Like you we would love a top ten finish but there are about 10 teams competing for probably 8th, 9th and 10th in reality. I would settle for being safe with 6 games left and then building on that.

Decent crowd expected at sol on Saturday and I think the first 20/25 mins will be critical. No doubt we will come out at 100 miles an hour but whether it brings dividends or not is anyone's guess.

Berbatov is always a danger and if in the mood can affect any game
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Big Martin Jol on August 16, 2013, 10:36:41 AM
Hi The Cat, welcome to the forum.

You'll find we're all quite downbeat here mainly because our central midfield (particularly Steve Sidwell) just doesn't cut it. We're lacking someone who can act as a creative link between defence and attack and won't give away the ball if he catches sight of an opposition player. We've been hoping for an upgrade since the start of the window but it just hasn't materialised yet - and to be honest, we're likely to be overrun in that area come Saturday.

Having said that we've made a lot of other improvements in the off-season. New goalkeeper (Stekelenburg), centre-back (Amorebieta), defensive midfielder (Boateng), attacking midfielder (Taarabt) and likely striker (Bent) - all of whom could be considered upgrades on what we had before. We're still hoping for a new left back and central midfielder, but once that's done then and the team starts to gel we should have a fairly decent chance of re-entering the top ten. It's a work in progress at the moment.

For the Sunderland match our main area to watch will be the wings: Ashkan Dejagah on the right and Alex Kacaniklic (if fit) on the left. Both are excellent prospects and will probably end up providing most of the service to our forwards. Berbatov has a great understanding with the latter in particular and if he can be bothered to get on the end of a ball then he can do absolute magic with it, so that'll be interesting to watch.

Apart from the Barclays Asia Trophy I can't claim to have been following your pre-season closely so I'd say our best hope of taking three points is facing you before your massive influx of new players have had time to become a functional team - but sadly, due to our legendary away form/midfield weaknesses I can see us going down 2-1.

Unfortunately can't make it up but hoping to catch the reverse fixture at Craven Cottage.

Anyway, sorry to make you read all that. Good luck for the game.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Bassey the warrior on August 16, 2013, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hello everyone.

First of all, good luck for the new season (after Saturday, obviously).

What are your hopes for the season and how do you see Saturday's game panning out.

Also, anyone on here heading up. You can always get a few pints in a safe environment at our place.

Cheers

I'd be very very pleased if we finished top 10 and happy with top 12.
I'm expecting you to dominate the game to be honest, you're likely fitter and your players have had more time to gel. With any luck we'll sneak a point.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Markffc123 on August 16, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
2-1 ffc win--darren bent to score the winner with a kieron richardson free kick to equalise(thats if he stays on the field as he may hobble off)
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: Big Martin Jol on August 16, 2013, 10:36:41 AM
Hi The Cat, welcome to the forum.

You'll find we're all quite downbeat here mainly because our central midfield (particularly Steve Sidwell) just doesn't cut it. We're lacking someone who can act as a creative link between defence and attack and won't give away the ball if he catches sight of an opposition player. We've been hoping for an upgrade since the start of the window but it just hasn't materialised yet - and to be honest, we're likely to be overrun in that area come Saturday.

Having said that we've made a lot of other improvements in the off-season. New goalkeeper (Stekelenburg), centre-back (Amorebieta), defensive midfielder (Boateng), attacking midfielder (Taarabt) and likely striker (Bent) - all of whom could be considered upgrades on what we had before. We're still hoping for a new left back and central midfielder, but once that's done then and the team starts to gel we should have a fairly decent chance of re-entering the top ten. It's a work in progress at the moment.

For the Sunderland match our main area to watch will be the wings: Ashkan Dejagah on the right and Alex Kacaniklic (if fit) on the left. Both are excellent prospects and will probably end up providing most of the service to our forwards. Berbatov has a great understanding with the latter in particular and if he can be bothered to get on the end of a ball then he can do absolute magic with it, so that'll be interesting to watch.

Apart from the Barclays Asia Trophy I can't claim to have been following your pre-season closely so I'd say our best hope of taking three points is facing you before your massive influx of new players have had time to become a functional team - but sadly, due to our legendary away form/midfield weaknesses I can see us going down 2-1.

Unfortunately can't make it up but hoping to catch the reverse fixture at Craven Cottage.

Anyway, sorry to make you read all that. Good luck for the game.

Thanks - great post!

Central midfield is Sunderland's main weakness - we have Cabral (ex Basel) who looks v good but our "best" option to partner him at the moment is Larsson - who isn't a cm!

Like you we have good wide players in Adam Johnson and new boy Giac (who starred for Italy over the summer).

Sounds like we will be fairly evenly matched and the game could turn on which team's flair players find the special moments.

The atmosphere will be really good, mainly driven by Di Canio himself and the feelings generated by everything that happened when we beat Newcas*le 3-0 near the end of last season. He is a cult hero from that, dirty knees etc so has a huge goodwill from the support. I understand that there will be around 44000 there.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: The Moose on August 16, 2013, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hello everyone.

First of all, good luck for the new season (after Saturday, obviously).

What are your hopes for the season and how do you see Saturday's game panning out.

Also, anyone on here heading up. You can always get a few pints in a safe environment at our place.

Cheers

I'd be very very pleased if we finished top 10 and happy with top 12.
I'm expecting you to dominate the game to be honest, you're likely fitter and your players have had more time to gel. With any luck we'll sneak a point.

same for us tbh re 10th and 12th

We will probably be fitter if all the accounts of our pre-season are correct but we will likely have 6 debutants in our 11 so how they react to the atmosphere and the pressure is anyones guess.

We could fly out of the blocks and score early in which case the place would explode and it would be difficult for you......or we may play like strangers and be taken apart on the break.

Very difficult to predict. One thing i can confidently predict is that we will have more entertainment than last season, which was frankly dreadful. MON dished up the dullest football I have ever witnessed and how and why our crowd kept showing up I've no idea - but the atmosphere really suffered as it was just so so dull......
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Northern Cottager on August 16, 2013, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: Markffc123 on August 16, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
2-1 ffc win--darren bent to score the winner with a kieron richardson free kick to equalise(thats if he stays on the field as he may hobble off)

If he gets the free kick in the first 30 seconds we may have a chance of him bagging one.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Joe McDonald on August 16, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: The Moose on August 16, 2013, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
Hello everyone.

First of all, good luck for the new season (after Saturday, obviously).

What are your hopes for the season and how do you see Saturday's game panning out.

Also, anyone on here heading up. You can always get a few pints in a safe environment at our place.

Cheers

I'd be very very pleased if we finished top 10 and happy with top 12.
I'm expecting you to dominate the game to be honest, you're likely fitter and your players have had more time to gel. With any luck we'll sneak a point.

same for us tbh re 10th and 12th

We will probably be fitter if all the accounts of our pre-season are correct but we will likely have 6 debutants in our 11 so how they react to the atmosphere and the pressure is anyones guess.

We could fly out of the blocks and score early in which case the place would explode and it would be difficult for you......or we may play like strangers and be taken apart on the break.

Very difficult to predict. One thing i can confidently predict is that we will have more entertainment than last season, which was frankly dreadful. MON dished up the dullest football I have ever witnessed and how and why our crowd kept showing up I've no idea - but the atmosphere really suffered as it was just so so dull......

I'm hoping our pre-season altitude training will give us the legs to peg you back later in the game - two different camps in Costa Rica and in Austria.  It'll be interesting to see which team settles in to their patterns of play sooner as both teams have had some major changes to personnel
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: jarv on August 16, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
welcome.  Don't listen to the Sidwell moaners on here. He has his limitations but is solid and without him, there are no real ball winners in midfield. He will compete with anyone, but does give away a few dodgy fouls.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: fulham traveller on August 16, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
thanks the cat, can you chuck on a few beach balls on the pitch, so maybe bent might bang one in, I will be happy with a draw, though expect to lose, with di canio getting his players pumped up
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: KP_FFC on August 16, 2013, 01:13:46 PM
looking forward to the match tomorrow and mainly our new signings
Title: Re: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Berserker on August 16, 2013, 01:43:48 PM
Hi Cat. I'm heading up to Sunderland today, going to match tomorrow then carrying onto to the in-laws in Edinbugh afterwards
I'm never sure how our season is going to go, or even each game, i keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best.
I live in Swindon so have experience of your manager. He did well with them but needed a big transfer budget, which they couldn't sustain
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: sumofallparts on August 16, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Nice posts and attitude Cat - I generally avoided watching your lot play under MON when televised as it was unbelievably drab football.

Love or hate PDC he makes it exciting and with your new players, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Have a good season :)

PS - Stoke were only just the least enjoyable team to watch 12/13 (after a MON team).
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: epsomraver on August 16, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: jarv on August 16, 2013, 12:16:05 PM
welcome.  Don't listen to the Sidwell moaners on here. He has his limitations but is solid and without him, there are no real ball winners in midfield. He will compete with anyone, but does give away a few dodgy fouls.

:plus one:
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 03:31:05 PM
Quote from: sumofallparts on August 16, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Nice posts and attitude Cat - I generally avoided watching your lot play under MON when televised as it was unbelievably drab football.

Love or hate PDC he makes it exciting and with your new players, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Have a good season :)

PS - Stoke were only just the least enjoyable team to watch 12/13 (after a MON team).


Agree wholeheartedly, you should of tried going to watch it every fortnight. It was awful. Amazing that we averaged 40k watching that utter dross. Hoping for much more entertainment this season, expect to score more but concede more.
Let's hope the game tomorrow is one of first 3 on motd (will have to be a belter to be so!!!!)
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 16, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: fulham traveller on August 16, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
thanks the cat, can you chuck on a few beach balls on the pitch, so maybe bent might bang one in, I will be happy with a draw, though expect to lose, with di canio getting his players pumped up

Now that was a great day. I was at the other end of the stadium and knew absolutely nothing about the beachball until I got home!!!!
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Sammyffc on August 16, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
i for one have been keeping a very close eye on the money spent and the players sunderland have brought in. Watched the pre season games in asia and was impressed by what i saw. lots of attacking intent. Hopefully your new squad , well a 80% different starting 11 will gell tomorrow and show that they are worth it. I am a very optimistic fulham fan and predict a draw haha . only as are away form is dire. we have no attacking pace upfront with berbs on his own , but hopefully now darren bent has signed he will come on and stretch you.  Sessignon is still your dangerman , he does my nut in, always seems to score random goals haha very very good player though. Chances are we will play EXACTLY as we did agaisnt swansea like are last game of the season . defend defend defend and then spring a counter attack, but hopefully not riding are luck this time. will be a very good game though. i also believe from 7th downwards is all up for grabs . lets see what happens !
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: valdeingruo on August 16, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Im looking forward to see how the new improved Altidore will fit in at Sunderland. The man is full of confindence, has built up some strength and looks to be the real deal. Lets hope he has a 36 match cracker of a season for you. Guess which two i hope he doesnt do well in?
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: watfordwhite on August 16, 2013, 05:54:09 PM

Let's hope the game tomorrow is one of first 3 on motd (will have to be a belter to be so!!!!)
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No chance, it will be our usual last 2 position.  076.gif to FOF by the way. As for the score,
I can only predict a Sunderland win if we play like last season and the English pre-season games.
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However if Bent plays and all they gell together we can play some great football.  049:gif
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 17, 2013, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: watfordwhite on August 16, 2013, 05:54:09 PM

Let's hope the game tomorrow is one of first 3 on motd (will have to be a belter to be so!!!!)

No chance, it will be our usual last 2 position.  076.gif to FOF by the way. As for the score,
I can only predict a Sunderland win if we play like last season and the English pre-season games.
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However if Bent plays and all they gell together we can play some great football.  049:gif
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Is Bent eligible? I've heard mixed reports
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on August 17, 2013, 08:32:03 AM

Bent's two tweets, if players has to,  this is the way to do it.


Darren Bent ‏@DarrenBent 19h
Can't wait to get going.Also want to say thank you to Villa&especially the Villa fans who have shown me amazing support during my time there
 
Darren Bent ‏@DarrenBent 19h
Delighted to be joining Fulham and really excited about getting started. It's an exciting new challenge for me and one that I'm relishing


Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: RaySmith on August 17, 2013, 10:34:31 AM
He seems a decent bloke.

I hope for his, and our, sake he can do the business for us - I'm sure it won't be for want of trying if he doesn't - but I think he'll be a success, and provide the cutting edge up front we  need.

Look forward to him linking with Berba and Taarabt, and bringing the best out of Bryan.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: The Cat on August 19, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
Congratulations on your win. Obviously disappointed from our perspective but there were some positive signs for us and at least there was some decent football played (unlike last season).

Looking forward to the return, your place is one of my favourite away trips.

Best of luck for the season.

As for Bent - I think you will find in time that he is a mercenary, but he will probably get you 15 goals this season as he definitely knows where the net is!!!!
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: fulhamfever on August 19, 2013, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: The Cat on August 19, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
Congratulations on your win. Obviously disappointed from our perspective but there were some positive signs for us and at least there was some decent football played (unlike last season).

Looking forward to the return, your place is one of my favourite away trips.

Best of luck for the season.

As for Bent - I think you will find in time that he is a mercenary, but he will probably get you 15 goals this season as he definitely knows where the net is!!!!

Thanks The Cat its only first game of the season tbh. I am happy Fulham won but Richardson has injury prone written all over him.
Title: Re: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: Berserker on August 19, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
Thanks Cat. We definitely need  a LB as Richardson although good in that position just can't stay  match fit any more, plus a striker as you saw at the game, hopefully Bent will help.  As far as i'm concerned you were unlucky not to score and equalize.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: fulhamfever on August 19, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: Berserker on August 19, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
Thanks Cat. We definitely need  a LB as Richardson although good in that position just can't stay  match fit any more, plus a striker as you saw at the game, hopefully Bent will help.  As far as i'm concerned you were unlucky not to score and equalize.

1 Shot on Target and that was the winner.
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: sumofallparts on August 19, 2013, 10:48:32 AM
Quote from: The Cat on August 19, 2013, 08:20:14 AM
Congratulations on your win. Obviously disappointed from our perspective but there were some positive signs for us and at least there was some decent football played (unlike last season).

Looking forward to the return, your place is one of my favourite away trips.

Best of luck for the season.

As for Bent - I think you will find in time that he is a mercenary, but he will probably get you 15 goals this season as he definitely knows where the net is!!!!

Thanks for your input.
Going forward SAFC looked quite good and sharp imho and to paraphrase the sofa surfers on MOTD, i think over the course of a season, "you'll be fine".
Looking fwd to seeing you at the Cottage later in the year.

Cheers
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: fulham traveller on August 19, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
we get a lucky away win, this does not happen often, 1. getting lucky 2.wiining away
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: fulhamben on August 19, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
Quote from: fulham traveller on August 19, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
we get a lucky away win, this does not happen often, 1. getting lucky 2.wiining away
what was lucky about it?
Title: Re: Sunderland fan in peace
Post by: EJL on August 19, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
No luck involved, really. We scored and Sunderland didnt - simple as that. They hardly ever forced Stekelenburg or Stockdale into making serious saves.