Got my ticket for my first home game this season. I have followed Fulham every game so far away from Home. I am currently trying to complete the 92 Football League grounds in the UK. I was at Villa yesterday and at Half Time they said among the fans its damage limitation in the 2nd Half. And Villa played really really well 2nd Half to win 3-2 against a very good City. It reminded me of the crisis at Fulham we would of been saying the same thing. But the 2nd half none stop singing from the Villa faithful helped the team go on to win. I AM NOT KNOCKING FULHAM'S SUPPORT. GOD BLESS THE HAMMERSMITH END and all other areas of the ground that shouted out there support for the team you have my utmost RESPECT. I cant wait for the game against Stoke I hope Fulham and Jol have an answer to Mark Hughes and his new style Stoke City.
The game against Cardiff was poor and we just have to move on to the next game. Personally I think we lack any flair at all and a change is imminent. Knowing Jol he probably scrape a 1-0 win next week at Home. But lets just get behind the team and if the Team does not do well then I am sorry Jol but its time you walked away and bring in someone who can do a job because at the moment its in your body language and voice at the post match interviews how you are under pressure.
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And your point is? You were not there but the Cardiff fans lifted their team to a victory? I can tell you the home crowd yesterday up until the winner were singing out and cheering the team on, even sung Jol's name!!! fp.gif Only changed after the goal and the final whistle to Jol out and that was from all quarters
Epsomraver I am just saying what is done is done we lost. I didnt knock the Fulham support at all. My point is nothing we can do we lost and its on to the next game. I am just saying going forward Jol has a lot to prove at the moment he is a man under pressure. Its in his body language and in his after match interviews.
There is something we can do, we can demand Jol goes, we can make our feelings from the stands known, those who go of course can, others can sit back at home and do nothing, move on to the next stream
Mate whatever I am just making my point end of. Roll on Fulham v. Stoke.
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 11:26:17 AM
And your point is? You were not there but the Cardiff fans lifted their team to a victory? I can tell you the home crowd yesterday up until the winner were singing out and cheering the team on, even sung Jol's name!!! fp.gif Only changed after the goal and the final whistle to Jol out and that was from all quarters
I am sorry but I was there yesterday in the away end (I'm a Cardiff fan) and I think I heard "Come on Fulham" once after you scored. That was it. How quietly were you lot signing?
Stoke are currently 1-0 down at home
Quote from: mungos beans on September 29, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Stoke are currently 1-0 down at home
What Stoke really need is a nice easy confidence boosting 3 points...
Funny, :005: but true also ... and so I'll cry. :026:
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 11:26:17 AM
And your point is? You were not there but the Cardiff fans lifted their team to a victory? I can tell you the home crowd yesterday up until the winner were singing out and cheering the team on, even sung Jol's name!!! fp.gif Only changed after the goal and the final whistle to Jol out and that was from all quarters
Sorry, from where you sat that might have been the case, and all I can say is that from what was broadcast was the Putney end then. Hearing Cardiff singing loud and clear that the Fulham "support was S***" was clear to hear, and only into the second half was any singing heard from the Fulham fans. No, I wasn't there, but even I could hear the Cardiff fans behind their team.
It has been said on here, many, many times, how quiet the home fans are at the Cottage in comparison, so to berate a poster for simply stating what appears to be a fact is a little unfair. As I said, perhaps the mikes all around the ground except for the Putney end were all turned off, but I doubt it.
I was in the Hammersmith end H4 and people were singing and encouraging the team loudly up until they scored the winner, said already people were even singing Jol's name, I know what I heard and saw so not really interested in what you "heard on the TV" The boys at the back even sung Mo's song and stick your blue flag, Of course you can hear the away fans, you can hear them louder at any ground because they are concentrated in one small area, Oh sorry it was all a dream!!!! stick to my stream next time when I want the facts about what happened at the ground.
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 08:31:22 PM
I was in the Hammersmith end H4 and people were singing and encouraging the team loudly up until they scored the winner, said already people were even singing Jol's name, I know what I heard and saw so not really interested in what you "heard on the TV" The boys at the back even sung Mo's song and stick your blue flag, Of course you can hear the away fans, you can hear them louder at any ground because they are concentrated in one small area, Oh sorry it was all a dream!!!! stick to my stream next time when I want the facts about what happened at the ground.
Perhaps if you were interested in what other people heard you might learn why certain comments are made rather than just your own experience, that's if you were remotely interested, of course, so why berate a poster who has just the experience he had.
This is my second season in the Hammy End after 10 years in the JH stand, where I sat mid-way between the Putney End and the half way line.
Fact of the matter is that even there you could hardly hear anything from the HE, whereas the away support would always be vocal in comparison. Even Wigan :)
I know the HE make plenty of noise, I sit there now, but the void at the back of the stand makes for pretty poor acoustics. Something the club has been looking at.
Quote from: Burt on September 29, 2013, 09:09:55 PM
This is my second season in the Hammy End after 10 years in the JH stand, where I sat mid-way between the Putney End and the half way line.
Fact of the matter is that even there you could hardly hear anything from the HE, whereas the away support would always be vocal in comparison. Even Wigan :)
I know the HE make plenty of noise, I sit there now, but the void at the back of the stand makes for pretty poor acoustics. Something the club has been looking at.
Good point Burt. Perhaps if the club would consider miking up in the HE a little more, it would give those fans who can only see the matches via broadcast, some respite from hearing just the away fans. I heard the faithful sing in the second half, and when I do, it's lump-in-the-throat and severe homesickness time, amazing how listening to something you were once regularly part of can bring that up.
Given the passing of time & our current problems I've completely lost interest in Sparky, apart from hoping we secure a valuable 3 points off them next week. Does anyone still feel the animosity for him?
A good post from the OP, and I can't quite see why Epsom Raver got so touchy about it? But I will remind people that we can be very, very vocal when we have a team we can believe in, a team where we see improvement every game, organisation and effort every game. Remember some of the home games in the Great Escape season? I remember the Birmingham game in particular when the atmosphere was incessant.
But we need something to believe in, and something to shout about. Oh, and that bl00dy void at the back of the Hammy End filled in!
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
There is something we can do, we can demand Jol goes, we can make our feelings from the stands known, those who go of course can, others can sit back at home and do nothing, move on to the next stream
I don't quite understand what you are getting at with the "sit back at home and do nothing, move on to the next stream" bit?
I've decided not to go to the Stoke match, it's the anniversary of my mum's passing a year ago and i'll be down as it is, i've decided to go walking on the Downs instead. So there will be one more empty seat at the game
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 08:31:22 PM
I was in the Hammersmith end H4 and people were singing and encouraging the team loudly up until they scored the winner, said already people were even singing Jol's name, I know what I heard and saw so not really interested in what you "heard on the TV" The boys at the back even sung Mo's song and stick your blue flag, Of course you can hear the away fans, you can hear them louder at any ground because they are concentrated in one small area, Oh sorry it was all a dream!!!! stick to my stream next time when I want the facts about what happened at the ground.
When I came over in September 2011, The Memsahib and me were sat in the Riverside in line with the goal line next to the Hammersmith End. I was stunned at the persistence and volume of the singing in the Hammersmith End, as well as in the Riverside [which I'd been told was a good place for an afternoon nap.]. What Ed has said repeatedly about the roof swallowing up the noise from the Hammersmith End was proven to me that day. I no longer shake my head when I hear no cheering on television -- as I most certainly did not on Saturday -- because I know that much of it is due to the position of the mikes.
Interestingly, the Fulham support is much more audible on Gentleman Jim's broadcasts.
Come on Fulham step it up for the Stoke game.
The only difference last year was Berbatovs wonder goal and them missing a penalty. With Berbatov out of form/drive and our awful defence at the moment, its going to be a hard game. I say a draw at best
Quote from: Whiteroom on September 29, 2013, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: epsomraver on September 29, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
There is something we can do, we can demand Jol goes, we can make our feelings from the stands known, those who go of course can, others can sit back at home and do nothing, move on to the next stream
I don't quite understand what you are getting at with the "sit back at home and do nothing, move on to the next stream" bit?
The point was that I was there and comments were made by posters who were not,Just what they heard on the tv or stream, I apologise if my reaction offended anybody but when you pay good money to watch the rubbish we have been dished up for some time now the temper rises, the crowd did try and cheer the team on but I admit it was half hearted at times,even the boys at the back were subdued towards the end, off to take a S001.gif
Quote from: SP on September 29, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Given the passing of time & our current problems I've completely lost interest in Sparky, apart from hoping we secure a valuable 3 points off them next week. Does anyone still feel the animosity for him?
Not really. He left quoting a lack of ambition. At the time we all lambasted him for his comments. Seems he was right all along.
Sometimes I wish we kept hold of him. He brought us some brand name players in Dembele and Gudjohnson. Sometimes you need a manager who has links to Chelsea and City so we can loan players in or even buy them.
Quote from: Cravenawin on September 30, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: SP on September 29, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Given the passing of time & our current problems I've completely lost interest in Sparky, apart from hoping we secure a valuable 3 points off them next week. Does anyone still feel the animosity for him?
Not really. He left quoting a lack of ambition. At the time we all lambasted him for his comments. Seems he was right all along.
He later said that he was wrong to have gone and should have stayed another year. Not a likeable character but he did build on Roy's base coupled with a greater degree of attacking ambition away. I thought we did ok under him.
Hughes was never going to get the chance to have a second year with us. MAF wanted Jol. We would have had him instead of Hughes but he couldn't bust his existing contract.
I believe [OPINION] that MAF told Hughes that there was no money available for the players he wanted to bring in and that he would have to accept that if he stayed. That's what caused him to leave and cite "lack of ambition." As soon as we got rid of him, we signed Jol who immediately got Ruiz in for big bucks.
MAF wanted Jol and MAF got Jol. Had Hughes stayed and had he been given the money that Jol was given, I believe we'd be a comfortable 8-10th place team playing more adventurous on the road and perhaps even competing for a cup.
We'll never know.