Watching on itv4.
The Wilkins affect on the team, ball going sideways
Across park b4 it go forward...Aaaaargh :046:
No offense to Rene', great coach, but he clearly isn't managerial material. Good with his words, maybe as a No.2, but no real game plan and his tactics are painful to watch at times.
I'm struggling to understand what we're doing out there tonight against a poor, poor Sheffield United side, to much passing around the back, nothing going forward, no width, and lots of hoofing it over the top when we do actually attack.
What is it now, 6 corners to Sheffield United and they are playing into the wind?
Oh, and whilst we're at it, is there any chance of putting Dempsey on an early plane? I'm also struggling to work out why he is back at this club.
You just know Sheffield United are going to score with their first real effort of the game, most likely in front of their 2,000 traveling fans.
Yep, Rene's not the man for the job.
I said in my posting the Wilkins affect, ball across park
6 times b4 it go forward..Worse thing we did bringing
Wilkins in, downhill since..
Quote from: Macedo on February 04, 2014, 08:25:17 PM
Watching on itv4.
The Wilkins affect on the team, ball going sideways
Across park b4 it go forward...Aaaaargh :046:
Not if we had the quality to go forward with the ball at our feet. Players simply aren't there ! Wilkins can't be wholly responsible.
This is painful to watch.
Win, lose or draw you just think 'meh'.
Quote from: Admin on February 04, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
Oh, and whilst we're at it, is there any chance of putting Dempsey on an early plane? I'm also struggling to work out why he is back at this club.
You just know Sheffield United are going to score with their first real effort of the game, most likely in front of their 2,000 traveling fans.
Dempsey looks like one of the few who actually want the ball at this point... he is not sharp at all but at least he wants the football...
He did create our only chance with a nice return ball to Hugo...that was about as good as we had...
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on February 04, 2014, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Macedo on February 04, 2014, 08:25:17 PM
Watching on itv4.
The Wilkins affect on the team, ball going sideways
Across park b4 it go forward...Aaaaargh :046:
Not if we had the quality to go forward with the ball at our feet. Players simply aren't there ! Wilkins can't be wholly responsible.
Im afraid he is, its the way he played everything
Sideways..Get him out.
I stand by
Class coach awful manager
Someone please tell me what our game plan is tonight? Tankovic a number 10 in cm the world's biggest gap between midfield and attack no pace and no movement
Rene is as clueless as jol
Sideways or Back !!!
I have no faith that will avoid relegation.
Too slow, too narrow, no desire, no plan b
Quote from: Robbie on February 04, 2014, 08:43:37 PM
Sideways or Back !!!
Sorry Robbie I missed out the backward moves...lol
Effin dreadful.
We have been playing sideways and back to keeper for the last 2 years ffs
I'd like to know when the management will work out that Kacka can't cross a ball during a normal game, so why do they let him try to do it from dead balls? I'm sorry, but this is so painful to watch yet again, like above, what the hell in Tankovic doing out wide, Parker has zero creativity what so ever, even at one point Hugo dropped back to mug him off the ball just to try and do something with it.
Sideways & backwards & then the good old fashioned long ball straight back to their keeper or straight out of play. Beautiful to watch...
Good to see that some people are coming to their senses. Some coaches aren't meant to be managers. Those players have no desire nor will to play. We are becoming a joke of a club. What a terrible first half.
Awful, awful, just absolutely awful fp.gif 096.gig
Can you please be more thorough with your opinion? why is this Wilkins fault? Wilkins is a number 2? I repeat a number two who follows Rene's orders. So can you people please stop barking at the wrong tree??
Quote from: DUKE on February 04, 2014, 08:58:33 PM
Can you please be more thorough with your opinion? why is this Wilkins fault? Wilkins is a number 2? I repeat a number two who follows Rene's orders. So can you people please stop barking at the wrong tree??
He has his input and say...Get him out..Useless when
Here before..
I honestly think this is the worst we have played for years. Lacklustre, no endeavour, no ideas, no shots on target, no danger from corners or free kicks. Embarrassing if we lose to a very average league one team. If the boss wanted to put pressure on them and have a go, surely he should have paired Bent & Rodayega together and given Karagounis some much needed passion next to Parker.
And when it's this bad, he brings on Damien Duff fp.gif
So what is the plan? Duff has not had a good game all season. Ash Dejag I can understand but he has no finish. We now have no goal scorers on the pitch.
Generally I don't understand what Rene and Crew are saving our first team for ????
Hugo dragged off, I know he's not been a world beater tonight, but neither have the rest of the Fulham team, who have been absolutely woeful, but to replace him with Kasami upfront is a disgrace, and the boy is now in bits on the bench. I'm honestly, honestly lost for words.
Dempsey upfront
But Dempsey was a great striker 3 years ago
Didn't understand the line up myself.
Surely bringing off Dempsey would have made more sense?
Admin something is fundementally wrong with all of it at the club
That's very bad man management. Hugo is not at fault for this awful performance. Shame on you Rene.
We are not staying up and the Greek isn't even going to have a scrap to feed on
I was going to make my usual 5 hour return trip from Norfolk, but after Saturday I thought I would give this a miss and am I glad I did....
This is as worse as I think I've ever seen them play. There is just no passion and we look bereft of ideas. I just hope none of my friends are watching this (Norwich supporters) because I feel ashamed.....
Quote from: vagrant on February 04, 2014, 09:15:16 PM
I was going to make my usual 5 hour return trip from Norfolk, but after Saturday I thought I would give this a miss and am I glad I did....
This is as worse as I think I've ever seen them play. There is just no passion and we look bereft of ideas. I just hope none of my friends are watching this (Norwich supporters) because I feel ashamed.....
Sums up my feelings, I've just turned the T.V off.
I'm watching this mess... And I am so infuriated I just needed to post something. That is all.
We're really going to have to make a decision about the management situation. We need someone to come in an light a fire. There is no desire in the team. There doesn't seem to be any tactics. We're shocking at the back and non existent in midfield and attack.
There is no chance we're going to stay up unless something changes
Good decision in my book....I'm a season ticket holder, loads of years etc etc
Rene doesn't have the fortitude or confidence to be a manager. Great guy, probably a great coach, but I don't think he trusts himself. We were doing great when he first showed up, but then Curbishley and Wilkins came in probably drowned him in "advice" and he didn't have the courage of his own convictions to stand by his ideas. Now he has just completely lost the plot.
Rene is Jol in disguise.
Did stockdale just COMPLETELY bottle that???
Quote from: Humbled on February 04, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Did stockdale just COMPLETELY bottle that???
Yes, which is why he'll never ever be a good keeper.
I do agree that the performance tonight is subpar, but no way is it the worst performance we have had. And Dempsey looks past it. He has his moments, but he's not premier league standard anymore.
We've been absolutely abysmal tonight.
I don't see how Rene can stay as manager if we're aiming to survive.
Crewe Alex beat them 3-0 on Sat..
Think we are playing for penalties, which could be more embarrassing.
Quote from: DUKE on February 04, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
Rene is Jol in disguise.
If truth be told, he's worse than Jol, just a better guy.
Quote from: DUKE on February 04, 2014, 08:50:21 PM
Good to see that some people are coming to their senses. Some coaches aren't meant to be managers. Those players have no desire nor will to play. We are becoming a joke of a club. What a terrible first half.
Quote from: Admin on February 04, 2014, 09:01:17 PM
And when it's this bad, he brings on Damien Duff fp.gif
LMFAO!!!
I can't think of a worse game of football that I've watched. The standard has been so unbelievably low. I don't even it being this rubbish in Division 3
we will never come up again if we go down!!!
Quote from: Macedo on February 04, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
Crewe Alex beat them 3-0 on Sat..
I didn't know this but it really puts the situation in perspective.I am really stuggling to undertand how we have managed to arrive in this disaster and accumulate such an atmosphere of having such a lack of spirit or belief in the players! I want to see my team turn it around, its hard watching this!
Listening to Gentleman Jim, we sound (perhaps understandably) like a bunch of players with no understanding or chemistry with one another, trying to do it on their own because we can't create chances as a team.
What was that? Defence parted like the red sea to let Brayford jog past.
Quote from: jmh on February 04, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
Listening to Gentleman Jim, we sound (perhaps understandably) like a bunch of players with no understanding or chemistry with one another, trying to do it on their own because we can't create chances as a team.
Haven't seen anyone trying to do it on their own either. Unless u class 60 yard balls out of play from our centre backs?
Silver lining, if we're willing to see one: Passley seems reasonably capable.
The crossing has been even worse than normal, which is really saying something
I think we should go for Laudrup ( if he wants to come). I think he will do a good job for us. this is not a knee jerk reaction but I don't think we can do any worst than this.
Has the Utd keeper made a genuine save in this game? Because I really can't remember one
Quote from: Humbled on February 04, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: jmh on February 04, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
Listening to Gentleman Jim, we sound (perhaps understandably) like a bunch of players with no understanding or chemistry with one another, trying to do it on their own because we can't create chances as a team.
Haven't seen anyone trying to do it on their own either. Unless u class 60 yard balls out of play from our centre backs?
For instance Kasami taking shots from 30-35 yards out.
Got exactly what we deserved
Just got in from the game, left on 70 minute mark. I resigned myself to relegation on Saturday, tonight's lack of anything re confirmed it for me. Now listening on the radio and oh my god 0-1. We deserve it
They played like a League One team.
We played like a Skrill Premier team.
But listen we shouldn't take this performance tonight too seriously.
Even though it was a bad way to lose, we are better off out of the cup.
The finger pointing has started and in this case I think people have a reason to - Ray f*cking Wilkins.
The image of him and Rene talking in the dugout every match is embarrassing.
I'm positive there is someone upsetting the team morale and it's not Rene.
Keep Rene, get Wilkins out.
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on February 04, 2014, 09:20:16 PM
Rene doesn't have the fortitude or confidence to be a manager. Great guy, probably a great coach, but I don't think he trusts himself. We were doing great when he first showed up, but then Curbishley and Wilkins came in probably drowned him in "advice" and he didn't have the courage of his own convictions to stand by his ideas. Now he has just completely lost the plot.
+1 The disastrous decision to bring in curbs and wilkins has undermined any authority Rene had. Curbs will sooner or later be given his chance.... and for any chance of staying up it should be now!
Quote from: Admin on February 04, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
No offense to Rene', great coach, but he clearly isn't managerial material. Good with his words, maybe as a No.2, but no real game plan and his tactics are painful to watch at times.
:clap_hands:
We could try swapping our academy staff with our first team staff. Could be a fun little experiment.