No one over the age of 25 please. No pressure on the kids with this one, get them out there, let them run, harass, play with pride and passion, energy and no fear. And if we do, which we won't, put Kit in charge for the day, I'm sure Rene can have a "stomach bug" for 24 hours preventing him from travelling.
Nothing to lose.
Live on TV at Old Trafford in a team devoid of confidence with no one over 25 to lead them in the thick of a relegation scrap.
No pressure lads
Maybe Mitroglou will come out in gladiator attire and lay waste to united?
Ill not be watching anyway, cant take it anymore
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
Quote from: epsomraver on February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
That team would get absolutely slaughtered at Old trafford. No backbone, no ball winner in the midfield and most of them havent even played together before
Quote from: epsomraver on February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
Why's that so hard to believe?
Eight of the 11 have played for fulham's first team. Another one has in the PL so that's not much of a stretch.
Tunnicliffe has been a regular in the championship. So again not much of a stretch. And the other? Well anyone who keeps an eye on the champions league may well have seen him play too.
I am getting fed up with picking a side for Rene. I am not paid a penny nor does he listen to me.
Quote from: epsomraver on February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
I was saying it COULD BE!! I was picking younger players like the thread said, luckily for everyone I am not the Fulham manager because if I was the team Sunday would be
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Kvist Parker
Dejagah Holtby Kasami
Mitraglou
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Sidwell, Tunnicliffe, Kacaniklic, Tankovic, Bent
This is why I am not the manager
Hangeland, Amorebieta, Parker, Dempsey and Kaca were crap against Sheffield. As were most of the team.
Stek
Riether Heitinga Burn Riise
Holtby Kvist Karagounis
Dejagah Mitroglou Richardson
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
I was saying it COULD BE!! I was picking younger players like the thread said, luckily for everyone I am not the Fulham manager because if I was the team Sunday would be
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Kvist Parker
Dejagah Holtby Kasami
Mitraglou
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Sidwell, Tunnicliffe, Kacaniklic, Tankovic, Bent
This is why I am not the manager
I would probably pick Sidwell instead of Parker, but more or less the same!
I think I'd start Heitinger at right back.
Stekelenberg
Heitinger Hangeland Burn Duff
Kvist Karagounis Sidwell Tunnicliff
Holtby
Mitroglu
Concentrate on keeping things tight. Wingers would be nice but ours aren't producing. I don't think that 11 would be intimidated.
.......and I'd rather Kara than either Parker or Sidwell
Quote from: K33NY on February 05, 2014, 11:55:22 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
Quote from: epsomraver on February 05, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
If we want a younger team it could be
Stekelenburg
Passley Heitinga Burn Richardson
Tunnicliffe Tankovic Holtby
Dejagah Mitraglou Kacaniklic
Cos you have seen these players play have you? fp.gif
I was saying it COULD BE!! I was picking younger players like the thread said, luckily for everyone I am not the Fulham manager because if I was the team Sunday would be
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Kvist Parker
Dejagah Holtby Kasami
Mitraglou
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Sidwell, Tunnicliffe, Kacaniklic, Tankovic, Bent
This is why I am not the manager
I would probably pick Sidwell instead of Parker, but more or less the same!
I think it comes down to Parker/Sidwell. Not a lot between them to be honest but Sidwell's scored a few so...
Then again is Karagounis fit?
I'm currently fed up with alot of first team regulars.
Kaca absolutely cannot play. He has been utterly awful this season, and was totally non existent last night. He's not going to get any better. He's 23 and cannot do even the simplest things.
Hangeland looks finished. He gets turned too easily and never seems to get off the floor when going for headers.
I've totally changed my mind about Parker, and feel that him constantly slowing the play down in the middle of the park is causing us problems. What exactly is his strengths? He doesnt tackle, doesnt create and doesnt score. He just does little pirouettes all the time and 5 yard passes left and right.
Amorebieta seems equally terrible at LB and CB.
Our full backs need to stop going forward in my opinion. I'd like to wager that 95% of goals we've conceded this season have come from a) set plays and b) counter attacks down the wings when the fullback is out of position.
Kasami runs about alot... but thats about it. He cant cross, rarely shoots on target and doesnt create chances.
Dempsey is utterly finished and should never play for us again
And infuriatingly NONE of our players can cross a ball
As it is impossible to play any worse than we have been I would shake the team up and put some players in that will actually try. My team for Man U would be:
---------Stekelenburg--------
Reither--Heitinga--Burn--Richardson
-------Tunnicliffe--Kvist-------
-------------Karagounis------
----Dejagah------------Holtby-----------
-------------Mitroglou----
Quote from: Ordar on February 05, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
I'm currently fed up with alot of first team regulars.
Kaca absolutely cannot play. He has been utterly awful this season, and was totally non existent last night. He's not going to get any better. He's 23 and cannot do even the simplest things.
Hangeland looks finished. He gets turned too easily and never seems to get off the floor when going for headers.
I've totally changed my mind about Parker, and feel that him constantly slowing the play down in the middle of the park is causing us problems. What exactly is his strengths? He doesnt tackle, doesnt create and doesnt score. He just does little pirouettes all the time and 5 yard passes left and right.
Amorebieta seems equally terrible at LB and CB.
Our full backs need to stop going forward in my opinion. I'd like to wager that 95% of goals we've conceded this season have come from a) set plays and b) counter attacks down the wings when the fullback is out of position.
Kasami runs about alot... but thats about it. He cant cross, rarely shoots on target and doesnt create chances.
Dempsey is utterly finished and should never play for us again
And infuriatingly NONE of our players can cross a ball
As it is impossible to play any worse than we have been I would shake the team up and put some players in that will actually try. My team for Man U would be:
---------Stekelenburg--------
Reither--Heitinga--Burn--Richardson
-------Tunnicliffe--Kvist-------
-------------Karagounis------
----Dejagah------------Holtby-----------
-------------Mitroglou----
Love this lineup! I feel it has the right mix if youth and experience.
I'm also seeing that most people agree Tunnicliffe should be given a start on Sunday, which I agree with too. He's young and looks to be solid in the center of the park, just what we need.
Stek
Riether
Heitinga
Hangeland
Riise
Kvist
Parker
Duff
Holtby
Richardson
Mitroglu
dont necessarily agree but that's what I think he'll do. Playing Tunnicliffe would be ridiculous
Quote from: Ordar on February 05, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
I'm currently fed up with alot of first team regulars.
Kaca absolutely cannot play. He has been utterly awful this season, and was totally non existent last night. He's not going to get any better. He's 23 and cannot do even the simplest things.
Hangeland looks finished. He gets turned too easily and never seems to get off the floor when going for headers.
I've totally changed my mind about Parker, and feel that him constantly slowing the play down in the middle of the park is causing us problems. What exactly is his strengths? He doesnt tackle, doesnt create and doesnt score. He just does little pirouettes all the time and 5 yard passes left and right.
Amorebieta seems equally terrible at LB and CB.
Our full backs need to stop going forward in my opinion. I'd like to wager that 95% of goals we've conceded this season have come from a) set plays and b) counter attacks down the wings when the fullback is out of position.
Kasami runs about alot... but thats about it. He cant cross, rarely shoots on target and doesnt create chances.
Dempsey is utterly finished and should never play for us again
And infuriatingly NONE of our players can cross a ball
As it is impossible to play any worse than we have been I would shake the team up and put some players in that will actually try. My team for Man U would be:
---------Stekelenburg--------
Reither--Heitinga--Burn--Richardson
-------Tunnicliffe--Kvist-------
-------------Karagounis------
----Dejagah------------Holtby-----------
-------------Mitroglou----
The thing about Kasami sums up the whole situation for me. He obviously has talent and looks a threat when he has the ball. He seems really confident but his crosses aren't great (although not terrible) and his shooting is often wayward (although he grazed the post i think with that shot last night) but the biggest problem seems to be where to play him? When it comes to the midfield/attack this can be applied to a few players. Hopefully over the next two games we will see a proper formation come to fruition where we will see who should be starting and where. Because Clint is only around for three more weeks i think we have to take him out of it and have him as sub
Stek- Reither, Heitinga, Hangeland, Richardson- Kvist, Karagounis- Dejagah, Holtby, Kasami- Mitroglou
Subs: Stockdale, Dempsey, Parker, Sidwell, Bent, Burn, Duff or Tunnicliffe or Cole
No one over the age of 25 vs United?! Is that a serious statement??
If I was going to guess the line up Rene will pick I would go
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Parker Sidwell Kvist
Duff Bent Holtby
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Kasami, Kacaniklic, Tunnicliffe, Dejagah, Mitraglou
Just have a feeling Mitraglou will start sub Sunday, Parker & Sidwell will always play
My line-up:
-----------------------Stekelenburg-----------------------
-Riether---------Heitinga---Hangeland----Richardson-
---------------------------Kvist----------------------------
-----------------Sidwell---------Holtby-------------------
-Dejagah----------------------------------------Kasami-
-------------------------Mitroglou------------------------
Bench:
Stockdale, Burn, Parker, Duff, Kacaniklic, Tankovic, Bent
I don't want to see Dempsey in the squad again, he has been poor in every single outing he has had for us this season. I think Karagounis should be slowly integrated back into the squad, we look so much better with him on the field and can actually string a few passes and have some possession. Sidwell over Parker for me because Parker has not been himself for the past month. And I feel harsh dropping Burn considering he has been better than Hangeland, but let's face it, our captain will not be benched, so I was just being realistic.
I'm beginning to get worried and think Rene actually takes tips from here and other message boards.
Ruiz, Taraabt and Berbatov gone, they can't fight and don't try. Like me many would have been at CC Saturday and seen on TV last nights debacle. I admit I was not a fan of Taraabt but the other two had bags of quality.
I don't thing scapegoating individuals is acceptable but in the cold light of day we are not crafting anything and Dejagah and Kaca are at the heart of this current deficiency
The left had side of our team is weaker than the rest.
I don't know what Tunniclife is like I have never seen. Home play, likewise Cole and have only seen Kvist the once. I do know that the game against Tottenham was board wring on one of our better performances. The two main reasons for me was Karagounis and Berbatov.
Karagounis and Holtby must play.
Richardson played well in from of Riise and if both fit would cover the left had side of the pitch. Parker or Sidwell (not both)
Sad thing is when you write it down it doesn't work!!
We need our best players to start age isn't a fact be it young or old. Replacing them at the right time is key.
Stek
Reither - Burn - Hangeland/Heitinger - Riise
Kvist
Parker - Karagounis - Richardson
Holtby
Bent / Kostas
Kasami / Dempsey to replace the tired Kargounis (probably meaning Holtby drops back)
Amore at LB if Riise is out. (Can Heitinger play LB?)
Quote from: Ordar on February 05, 2014, 12:08:42 PM
I'm currently fed up with alot of first team regulars.
Kaca absolutely cannot play. He has been utterly awful this season, and was totally non existent last night. He's not going to get any better. He's 23 and cannot do even the simplest things.
Hangeland looks finished. He gets turned too easily and never seems to get off the floor when going for headers.
I've totally changed my mind about Parker, and feel that him constantly slowing the play down in the middle of the park is causing us problems. What exactly is his strengths? He doesnt tackle, doesnt create and doesnt score. He just does little pirouettes all the time and 5 yard passes left and right.
Amorebieta seems equally terrible at LB and CB.
Our full backs need to stop going forward in my opinion. I'd like to wager that 95% of goals we've conceded this season have come from a) set plays and b) counter attacks down the wings when the fullback is out of position.
Kasami runs about alot... but thats about it. He cant cross, rarely shoots on target and doesnt create chances.
Dempsey is utterly finished and should never play for us again
And infuriatingly NONE of our players can cross a ball
As it is impossible to play any worse than we have been I would shake the team up and put some players in that will actually try. My team for Man U would be:
---------Stekelenburg--------
Reither--Heitinga--Burn--Richardson
-------Tunnicliffe--Kvist-------
-------------Karagounis------
----Dejagah------------Holtby-----------
-------------Mitroglou----
Pretty much agree with everything.
It's not ideal having Holtby out wide but no one else is capable/worthy of filling that position. Parker looked terribly jaded both at the weekend and in the cup game so should be rested. Let's see what Tunnicliffe can do. I also like the idea of Karagounis playing in a more advanced/playmaker role - he should be given the armband. Hangeland has been god awful, so if any of our CB's should be dropped, it's him. Finally, I like Kaca but he needs to go back to basics. Either way, he shouldn't start after his diabolical performance yesterday though he was one of many.
Quote from: JoeyFFC on February 05, 2014, 01:49:19 PM
No one over the age of 25 vs United?! Is that a serious statement??
What a silly statement, everyone knows you dont win anything with kids
if we played no one over 25, we would be playing Etheridge in nets, who will turn 24 by then and have played one game in 8 years for fulham
I'm going to go a bit out there...
-------------------------------------------Stekelenburg-----------------------------------------------
Riether-------------------Hangeland----------------------------Burn-------------------------------Riise
-----------------------------Kvist----------------------------Heitinga---------------------------------
Dejagah-------------------------------------Holtby------------------------------------------Richardson
-------------------------------------------Mitroglou---------------------------------------------------
Subs: Stockdale, Passley, Parker, Karagounis, Kacaniklic, Kasami, Rodallega.
Yep, I know it's 4231. Willy and Johnny sitting in front of the back four should provide defensive solidity AND the ability to play short passes, though with Hangeland and Burn's development into long ball players, I was tempted to shaft Heitinga into the back four.
Riise and Richardson was actually our left wing partnership when we last won... West Ham at home in case you had forgotten.
The aim is to return to quick, countering football and Dejagah, Holtby and Richardson should help provide Mitroglou with a couple of chances; United are not as solid as they have been, a chance should fall to Troggers.
The reason Kacaniklic doesn't play, is he was woeful against a League One full back, it's been really sad to see his downfall in form and quality. Maybe a year in the Championship will do him good.
Obviously, I don't think this will be the line up, and with Cole and Tunnicliffe's low squad numbers, it suggests they will be a part of the first team.
id like to see a 433
Stek
Riether Hangeland Heitinga Richardson
Tunnicliffe Parker Holtby
Dejagah Mitroglou Cole
the reason i suggest this team is because i believe tunnicliffe and cole will really give there all as they are playing against there old team
Quote from: JackyFulham90 on February 05, 2014, 03:02:50 PM
If I was going to guess the line up Rene will pick I would go
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Parker Sidwell Kvist
Duff Bent Holtby
Subs - Stockdale, Burn, Kasami, Kacaniklic, Tunnicliffe, Dejagah, Mitraglou
Just have a feeling Mitraglou will start sub Sunday, Parker & Sidwell will always play
Unfortunately I think you are spot on.
What I would like to see however is a 4-3-3 with a mobile front six able to press the opposition and retain a team shape quickly when we lose possession as it is realistic to assume we will only have 30-40% possession.
Back four - keep Burns as he offers a genuine threat at set pieces and has been one of the better defensive players. Replace Reither with Heitinger. It will negate our normal attack as he is probably the best crosser of a ball in the team, but other teams have successful sussed him out and targeted cross field balls behind him when we lose possession and we do need more solidity away from home. Richardson at least has the pace to compete with Utd's wingers compared to Riise.
Midfield - Kvist, Holtby and Kasami. Parker was a real disappointment last night and I thought he slowed up too many attacks allowing Sheff utd tom form an organised defensive shape with ease. He seemed to do a couple of pirouettes before releasing the ball. So Kvist to be told to stay back and screen the defense like one of the Sheffield Utd players did so well last night so no-one was ever left 1 v 1. To be accompanied by Holtby and Kasami - they have the stamina to ensure the attack has support when we have the ball, and to get back quickly when we lose it and/or are not in possession. Both are tenacious and tackle - and I was impressed with Holtby's dead ball delivery vs Southampton.I would have Karagounis ready to come on later in the game as most of the team are quiet types whose heads go down at the moment - he at least shouts and looks like he relishes a fight (in the right way).
Attack: Degagah + Bent (with Mitroglou to come on ASAP depending on fitness) and a quick left winger. Unfortunately after last night's display Kaca is not that type of left winger, not quick or clever enough in attack and offers little when we do not have the ball. Any suggestions? Tankovic, even Riise?
Just a thought but would it be worth switching Reither to left full it works for Chelsea and playing passley or heitinga right full
All I ask is, pick a well balanced team and stick with it for the remaining games
Team selection has been a part of why things are so bad, not just on the match day but its bound to effect performance with so many players unsure of their place.
Those excluded wont like it but a smaller nucleolus might pull something out the hat
For me:
Stek
Riether Hangeland Burn Riise
Kvist
Parker Holtby
Dejagh. Richardson
Mitrogolu
Not sure Riise is fit? But Richardson is our only viable left winger at the moment with kaca non existent and duff slower then dot cotton. Holtby has to play in the middle with three we can dominant and awful centre midfield pairing at United.
Win the midfield battle and break quickly against a slow and clumsy evra and a rash poor defensively Rafael. Their defence and centre midfield is mid table at best
Attack with pace and conviction down the wings and give our new Greek gladiator a chance to show why he is worth the hype
---------Stekelenburg--------
Reither--Hangeland--Burn--Richardson
-------Parker--Kvist-------
-------------Holtby------
----Dejagah------------Cole-----------
-------------Mitroglou----
Subs - Stockdale, Heitinga, Riise, Kacaniklic, Sidwell, Kasami, Bent.
Stek
Riether
Heitinga
Hangers
Richardson
Kvist
Parker
Holtby
Dejagah
Kasami
Mitroglou
We need a left winger on the left and a right winger on the right. An actual striker up front and complementary, not similar, central midfielders. Ideally three of them.
If we crowbar #10s on the flanks and play midfielders who are all toil and no technique we're beaten before we kick off.
Quote from: PokerMatt on February 05, 2014, 08:36:16 PM
We need a left winger on the left and a right winger on the right. An actual striker up front and complementary, not similar, central midfielders. Ideally three of them.
If we crowbar #10s on the flanks and play midfielders who are all toil and no technique we're beaten before we kick off.
Agree
Stek, reither, burn, hangeland, amore,dejagah, kvist, sidwell, duff, holtby, mitrogol
Stockdale, heitenga, Richardson, Parker, Hugo, tankovic, karagounis
Start Kaca over Clint? No way. This is crunch time. Step Up Big time. My money is on Dempsey. He played well with Holtby last year.
I'd go with:
Stek
Riether Hangeland Burn Richardson
Kvist
Parker Kasami
Dejagah Holtby
Mitroglou
Riether will need to be a bit more disciplined and not leave Hangeland so exposed.
Folks, we can sit here and draft up all the line up combinations possible, but it won't work.
The team's performance on the pitch is clearly a reflection that the club is in shambles off the pitch.
The team has hit rock bottom and as things are, after Manchester United and Liverpool it will be lights out. The players will pack it up for the season.
Players will naturally have nothing to play for, they will look after their bodies, avoid injuries and start thinking of life next year in a new club, city, country, league, etc.
This is a perfectly normal attitude to have when the ship has sunk.
René Meulensteen was the wrong man for the job, plain and simple. His coaching decisions have been so out of character. His present decisions may have been based on desperation or inexperience, but this we will never know.
Him laughing on the bench with Ray Wilkins in the 85 minute, was so poor in character and judgement, it was the icing on the cake.
If I had not heard of this man before, I would doubt he had even had walked outside of Old Trafford, let alone work under Sir Alex Ferguson's coaching staff for several years.
This team does not need to play it self out of relegation, but rather fight its way out. Who does not like youth, we all do. Tunnicliffe, Tankovic are good young players that still require a nurturing environment. Throwing them in this situation will only stunt their development.
They have European champion, with over 100 Champions league appearances, and a player will will lead his country into his second World Cup, parked on the bench or off the 18 player list, for no reason at all.
Make Giorgos Karagounis team captain, and with his leadership, charisma, heart, fight and work ethic will hopefully inspire his team to follow suit. His energy is contagious.
This my Fulham Friends is our only option at this time. Hangeland is gentleman and a very fine man that I have had the chance to meet, but perhaps the strong silent type character may not suit the team present climate.
Stek
Riether Hangeland Burn Richardson
Karagounis
Parker Dempsey
Dejagah Holtby
Mitroglou
I genuinely think we can get a result Sunday, I have seen a few reports saying Mitraglou won't be fit for Sundays game though, when is young Dembele back??
Mitro apparently is 50/50 for the game, but he still has 3 days to get ready. Probably on the bench i reckon.
Stek
Reither
Hetinga
Hangers
Richardson (Risse if fit)
Kvist
Parker
Holtby
Dejagah
Cole
Mitro if fit (if not one form Bent or Rodders or Dembele)
Id like Tunnicliffe to play but would have him on the bench and coming on for Parker. Kara id love to start but think Kvist and Holtby deserve to start again.
Quote from: Forever Fulham on February 05, 2014, 11:55:32 PM
Start Kaca over Clint? No way. This is crunch time. Step Up Big time. My money is on Dempsey. He played well with Holtby last year.
That was last year. This year he hasn't played well with anyone!!
Nor has Kaca, granted, but let's not follow Rene (or Wilkins which ever way you look at it) and pick Dempsey on reputation.
I hate these stupid 'here's what we should do' teams because I'm sure they are picked on tactics as well as fitness but here goes.
Stek
Riether Hangeland Burn Riise
Kvist Sidwell
Dejagah. Holtby. Kasami
Mitro (or Bent)
I think Hangeland is finished but I don't think Hietinga has had enough time to settle into a shocking defence. Sidwell gets the nod over Pirouette Parker.
Can Tankovic play wide? He deserves his place but I've always seen him through the middle. If not I'll go Dejagah. Hes a bit headless but his strength will unsettle crybaby Evra. Kasami on the left because he has more heart and work rate than Kaca and Dempsey.
Up top, if Mitro is injured we are screwed. Bent is awful and Rodellega might not be in the right frame of mind!
I'm unsure on the LB. Possibly Richardson.
The back four picks itself sadly and I doubt Heitinga will be put straight in the team.
Thought Kvist did ok and so him, Sidwell and Karagounis. Maybe Duffer to cover the left back.
Holtby behind Rodders because pace scares teams. Putting Dempsey or Bent would be stupid but we know it will happen.
Mitro will not feature until the last game of the season and then move on. It is the Fulham way.
Mitroglou unfit to play: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html)
Stek
Riether Burn Heitinga/Brede Richardson
Kvist Parker/Sidwell/Kara
Dejagah Kaca/Plumain/Cole/Mesca
Holtby
Bent
Stek
Reither Heitenga Burn Richardson
Dejegah Kvist Karagounis Kasami
Holtby
Mitroglou
I am afraid he is going to play Heitenga over Burn and keep Hangeland in the squad which is probably a wash for me. Richardson can deal with fast wingers and Reither is fast enough to get down the right with Dejegah. Kvist in front of the back for with Karagounis pinging balls around.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html)
mitroglou unlikely to feature
Quote from: Zu-Meister on February 06, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html)
mitroglou unlikely to feature
And of course if it's in the Daily Mail it must be true fp.gif
Quote from: dgnffc on February 06, 2014, 03:08:59 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on February 06, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html)
mitroglou unlikely to feature
And of course if it's in the Daily Mail it must be true fp.gif
they can be....occasioanlly. they broke the khan story first i think.
Quote from: dgnffc on February 06, 2014, 03:08:59 PM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on February 06, 2014, 02:25:20 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552609/Rene-Meulensteen-battling-save-Fulham-job-fire-boss-pleads-fire-relegation-threatened-squad.html)
mitroglou unlikely to feature
And of course if it's in the Daily Mail it must be true fp.gif
I've just been on the Olympiacos website and he hasn't played for a couple of weeks and was subbed 22nd Jan after 77mins. Could be an element of truth, besides, he will have to adapt to the pace of the English game.
One positive note is that he has been banging them in for me of FIFA 14.
He was out for a few weeks in early Jan/late December, but started playing again by the time we bought him (as far as I know).
From what I can tell people are picking up on out of date news and I expect him to be ready to play.
Although who knows really until Sunday?
Quote from: horse1031 on February 06, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Stek
Reither Heitenga Burn Richardson
Dejegah Kvist Karagounis Kasami
Holtby
Mitroglou
I am afraid he is going to play Heitenga over Burn and keep Hangeland in the squad which is probably a wash for me. Richardson can deal with fast wingers and Reither is fast enough to get down the right with Dejegah. Kvist in front of the back for with Karagounis pinging balls around.
Don't want Kasami out wide.
This team needs kasami - Parker - karagounus. Dejagah and Kaca on the wings,.. The Greek fella up front.
I know kvist will feature. That's OK too. But don't know who to drop
The key to me is Karagounus - Parker. These two will dominate the midfield against us, with the help of a runner like Sidwell or Kasami
Quote from: horse1031 on February 06, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Stek
Reither Heitenga Burn Richardson
Dejegah Kvist Karagounis Kasami
Holtby
Mitroglou
I am afraid he is going to play Heitenga over Burn and keep Hangeland in the squad which is probably a wash for me. Richardson can deal with fast wingers and Reither is fast enough to get down the right with Dejegah. Kvist in front of the back for with Karagounis pinging balls around.
This is the perfect and best team we have. I would have preferred Parker over Kara but he's been shiit lately so... I hope Burn plays but I've got a feeling he'll be swapped for Heitinga. I can't see Rene dropping Brede. Also, I have a bad feeling Kostas isn't gonna be ready. I think he'll play some minutes but I'd be surprised if he playes the full 90 from what I've been reading. He will put Bent on if he doesn't play. Personally I would never play Bent ever again. He's not worth it.
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Quote from: Blanco on February 06, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on February 06, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Stek
Reither Heitenga Burn Richardson
Dejegah Kvist Karagounis Kasami
Holtby
Mitroglou
I am afraid he is going to play Heitenga over Burn and keep Hangeland in the squad which is probably a wash for me. Richardson can deal with fast wingers and Reither is fast enough to get down the right with Dejegah. Kvist in front of the back for with Karagounis pinging balls around.
This is the perfect and best team we have. I would have preferred Parker over Kara but he's been shiit lately so... I hope Burn plays but I've got a feeling he'll be swapped for Heitinga. I can't see Rene dropping Brede. Also, I have a bad feeling Kostas isn't gonna be ready. I think he'll play some minutes but I'd be surprised if he playes the full 90 from what I've been reading. He will put Bent on if he doesn't play. Personally I would never play Bent ever again. He's not worth it.
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Agree 100% nor Dempsey please god!
I wonder why we bought Cole and Tunnicliffe? They presumably know the Manure system well so maybe they get a go.
Stek
riether heitinga burn Richardson
Kvist
karagounis holtby
dejagah Cole
Mitroglou
What I would like to see:
Stek
Riether Heitinga Burn Richardson
Kvist
Karagounis Holtby
Dejagah Cole
Mitroglou
What we will be presented on Sunday morning:
Stekelenburg
Riether Heitinga Hangeland Richardson
Kvist
Parker Sidwell
Holtby Dempsey
Bent
At which point I will break something, cry, have a coffee, cry again, shrug it off and then shout COYW!
Quote from: samv10 on February 06, 2014, 10:49:43 PM
Stek
riether heitinga burn Richardson
Kvist
karagounis holtby
dejagah Cole
Mitroglou
I like this lineup, but I can't see Hangeland getting dropped. I really want to see Tunnicliffe and Cole in action, so I hope they get some time in the upcoming games.
I am confident we coule pull off a bit of an upset sunday BUT if either or both of duff and dempsey are named then we will substantially reduce the chances .
Too old too slow too ineffective. duff on the bench by all means but dempsey has so underachieved he just does not merit any position at all.
My team for the upset scenario
Stockers (but it will be steckers)
reither brede heitinga richardson (JAR my poreference is injured)
kaka parker kvist holtby dejagah
Presumably bent but the greek lad if 100% fit!
I would possibly play karagounus in preference to parker. If parker starts make him team captain.
Stek
Riether
Heitinga
Hangers
Richardson
Kvist
Parker
Holtby
Dejagah
Kasami
Mitroglou
Wish that Riise was healthy. Reither/Dejagah and Riise/Richardson are our two best outside pairings IMO.
Kvist, in the limited time that i've seen him, looks a pure destroyer. I'd be happy if Holtby and either Kara or Parker played in front of the Dane.
One thing that escapes me has been the decision to carry on benching our Greek midfielder. All his play acting may not be exactly what we strive for here at Fulham, but it sure destroys the other team's rhythym and he draws more than his share of free kicks. He frustrates opposition. We need to be making the most of every advantage we can muster. We should be playing him far more than we have. Mistake.
As things stand, I believe we'll get:
Stek
Reither Brede Heitinga Richardson
Kvist
Dejagah Parker Holtby Duff (maybe Kaka)
Bent or Dempsey (I think this is a 50/50)
I don't mean to imply we'll be playing a 4-1-4-1, but that Kvist will take up a more destroying role to allow Parker to move more into the attack. After Kaka's poor game, it's difficult to assume that he'll be right back out there versus United.
Quote from: Burt on February 07, 2014, 03:14:58 PM
Stek
Riether
Heitinga
Hangers
Richardson
Kvist
Parker
Holtby
Dejagah
Kasami
Mitroglou
I thought about putting Kasami out on the left, but it just burns me up thinking about how "wasted" his qualities are out wide. You're probably right though.
I still prefer Richardson out wide on the left. Which means we have a problem with left back. Amo seems better if he doesn't have to go forward and with Richardson he wouldn't. I agree about Dempsey, I just don't see a place for him but Duff can do a job if not expected to defend too much.
If we were allowed 12 players we could play Holtby and Kasami behind the striker.
I wouldn't have Parker anymore but would play Sidders alongside Kvist.
You see with 12 players we would have a half decent side. Would still lose but it would be worth watching.
Stek
Heitinga Brede Burns Richardson
Holtby Kvist Karagounis
Dejagah Kasami
Mitragoulis (Bent if Mitroglou not 100 % fit)
Havent we done a thread on 'my team for Old Trafford' where all and sundry typed out a team (and formation if we are lucky)after Tuesdays debacle?
Totally agree on the Duff and Dempsey point though. Dempsey just isnt cutting it and we need to concentrate on the players that will be here until May to get some rhythm going.
Duff, well he was probably our best player when he came on Tuesday, trying to make things happen, trying to make other players work but his best years are clearly behind him even if he is still one of the fittest players at the club.
I'm wondering what Renes game plan will be though. We arent good enough defensively to hold out for a 0-0 and the best way of getting something at Old Trafford is attacking them BUT Rene has stated that we need more discipline and we cant have our players all bombing forward. I fear another game of 'Jol counter attacks' where we attack in ones and twos
Quote from: leonffc on February 07, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
Havent we done a thread on 'my team for Old Trafford' where all and sundry typed out a team (and formation if we are lucky)after Tuesdays debacle?
Totally agree on the Duff and Dempsey point though. Dempsey just isnt cutting it and we need to concentrate on the players that will be here until May to get some rhythm going.
Duff, well he was probably our best player when he came on Tuesday, trying to make things happen, trying to make other players work but his best years are clearly behind him even if he is still one of the fittest players at the club.
I'm wondering what Renes game plan will be though. We arent good enough defensively to hold out for a 0-0 and the best way of getting something at Old Trafford is attacking them BUT Rene has stated that we need more discipline and we cant have our players all bombing forward. I fear another game of 'Jol counter attacks' where we attack in ones and twos
Jol counter attacks? are you dreaming Man :005:
Whatever way it is set up, it is apparent that we are lacking. But then that's were a manager really has to earn his corn in arriving at a sum that is greater than its parts.
Mitroglou won't be 100% fit.
Not a day goes by...................
Quote from: leonffc on February 07, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
Havent we done a thread on 'my team for Old Trafford' where all and sundry typed out a team (and formation if we are lucky)after Tuesdays debacle?
Yes, but nose wanted another opportunity to trash Duff and Dempsey, so ... .
Quote from: HatterDon on February 07, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: leonffc on February 07, 2014, 04:41:27 PM
Havent we done a thread on 'my team for Old Trafford' where all and sundry typed out a team (and formation if we are lucky)after Tuesdays debacle?
Yes, but nose wanted another opportunity to trash Duff and Dempsey, so ... .
well thats his right but surely he / we can do so without yet another page full of peoples favourite or predicted line ups 086.gif